The Frying Pan

hobodave

12:02 AM

so I installed LoL in a VM

I must say my interest is piqued

Jay

@hobodave peer pressure!!! :D

Ben Brocka

Is a normal (non-metal) scouring pad enough to remove the protective finish off a new wok/pan? Instructions call for a metal one but I don't have one

Jay

@BenBrocka don't quote me on this but I dont think so. for one material to "scrape" another material off, it's index of hardness must be greater. The plastic scouring pads probably isn't gonna cut it

Ben Brocka

Figures, guess I'm going shopping tomorrow too. Figures I didn't notice it said metal

@Jay thanks

hobodave

12:21 AM

well I won my tutorial battle @Jay

Jay

@BenBrocka np, good luck

hobodave

Ashe feels familiar

playing on a trackpad was kinda meh

Jay

@hobodave haha it shouldn't be that hard

@hobodave oh ewww, that's gonna be a problem

hobodave

I did ok actually

Jay

tutorials are like infinitely easier than a regular bot game

hobodave

12:23 AM

I'm sure

I need to figure out some basics like how to focus on my hero when the camera is unlocked

I don't like the default lock camera

Mien

Jay

space bar to auto the camera to your champion again when your camera is unlocked

hobodave

wow

is there a shortcut to toggle lock?

Jay

@hobodave I'm not sure. I just keep it unlocked all the time

hobodave

ah

I'll try more tomorrow

thanks, later

Jay

12:25 AM

later

my rep is a perfect 1250 right. Aint that pretty :) I hope noone upvotes me for a little while so I get to have a pretty rep score

Jay

4:51 AM

Oh noes, I made an edit and got 2 rep so It's not a pretty 1250 anymore. :(

I'm weird... I need to go to sleep

Jay

2:21 PM

i have a question for all the programmers in here. Which is pretty much 75% of the people. When you started programming, did you all wanted to program video games or is that just the dream of a silly boy? i feel like most of the programmers i talked to all started because they wanted to create their own games.

rumtscho

@jay I definitely didn't start because I wanted to create games, I started because I found programming fascinating in itself. But I am not a professional programmer (currently).

Jay

@rumtscho It might be a guy thing maybe. I'll wait and see waht the guys say

rumtscho

Yes, sure, wait for it.

But I liked playing computer games too.

Mien

@Jay, why are you asking?

Jay

@Mien Just random thoughts that pop into my head

Usually when i ask a question, there isn't a specific reason. Just curiosity

@rumtscho @hobodave succumb to my persuasion and installed LoL

rumtscho

2:32 PM

@Jay Yes, I read the transcript

Jay

@Mien btw, they made the bots smarter now. They are so much harder than they used to be. lol I was quite surprised

rumtscho

But I don't think this is the right genre for me

Jay

@rumtscho It's quite possible

rumtscho

And it would be a PITA to try, I don't have a VM image handy, and VirtualBox only emulates some crappy videoprocessor anyway.

Jay

Perhaps in the future

I was a bit quiet yesterday without you gals here

rumtscho

2:35 PM

If I ever install Windows, it will be because I have found a game worth the hassle. And if I do, this hypothetical new game will satisfy my modest gaming needs by itself.

@Jay Don't worry, I caught up on all of the stuff about you guys being afraid of me and doubting if I'll pass the Turing test.

The transcripts are quite useful.

Jay

I feel like if I'm not actively talking on the chat, it's boring to go back and read the transcript. esp since it usally VERY long

I might click on a starred message and read around it but I wouldn't be able to read the whole day's transcript

@rfusca, they totally buffed up the bots!

It was a new patch yesterday.

Before they had like maybe 10 different champion bots and they were quite stupid in many ways(way too aggressive and bad synergy)

Mien

@Jay, I was here yesterday...

Jay

Now they have 40 different bots and they freaking work together. It;'s pretty scary

Mien

Rise of the machines!

Jay

@Mien Not as much as usual i think

Mien

2:43 PM

Well, depends on the subject...

I was sitting on my pc and the chat was open, as usual.

Jay

@Mien We were setting up to gank two bots with 4 champions but ended up all dying because they counter ganked with the rest of the bot team

Freaking bots... lol it was almost like playing a normal game

Jay

2:56 PM

@rumtscho, you see this question yet: cooking.stackexchange.com/q/21005/8305

Have you had what the OP is talking about

Mien

The potatoes or the problem?

Jay

@Mien the potatos dumpling

it sounds like a giant gnocci

rumtscho

3:14 PM

@Jay I read all questions

I have eaten the stuff, but never made it myself

I will check in a German cookbook when I'm home

Actually, a German recipe database may be better than the book.

Jay

3:31 PM

@rumtscho You say that like you would say, "I know all." lol

@rumtscho Does it taste like gnocchi or is it different?

Probably different since no cheese

rumtscho

@Jay I don't know how gnocchi taste.

Mien

Isn't gnocchi more puree-like?

Jay

@Mien no gnocchi is tiny balls of potato/cheese dumpling thingers

rfusca

hmmm gnocchi

@Jay ya, the bot change is nice

the bots actually try to gank as a group now

Jay

@rfusca They sync so well now

I fought against a amumu and xin in a lane

amumu bandages in at the exact same time as xin jump in

and after the stun is over, xin's three prong attack knocks me up

rfusca

3:37 PM

ya

Jay

so i was immobolized for like 3 seconds straight

i got away with less than 50 health haha

<3 flash

rfusca

what two summoner spells do you like?

Jay

for ad i like exhaust and flash

for ap i like ignite and flash

rfusca

ic

rumtscho

OK, posted an answer for the klöße

Jay

3:41 PM

what do you use?

rfusca

@Jay exhaust pretty much always and then in bot games promote and in real games flash

Jay

@rumtscho I think you had a mistype. The potato comment was made by Jefromi not me

rfusca

@Jay i was on a team that almost lost to an intermediate bot team last night though. We had two people feed over 40 kills to Lux and Ashe

that would have been embarrassing lol

Jay

@rfusca Oh I've lost bot games before. Rarely but it happens. usually because we have leavers

rfusca

really? I've never lost a bot game

Jay

3:44 PM

Haha yea ashe and lux is a scary combo

lux snare is 2 seconds

and then ashe will continue to slow you when you try to run away

rfusca

ya

Jay

AND they both have global ults haha

rumtscho

@Jay ohh, I wasn't paying attention again.

Corrected.

rfusca

@Jay ya, my team was very aware

Jay

@rfusca Bot's stacking ults are scary haha. I had a fight with Morgana, Wukong, and Malphite. Morgana comes in and we were like yay easy kill. She ults but we weren't too scare since it was 5v1. But then Malphite ults in and knocks EVERYONE up. Then wukong ults and knocks everyone up again. And by that time, Morgana's ult has proc and stuns everyone. We got aced by 3 bots. it was so embarassing

Sobachatina

3:48 PM

@rfusca- Genovese focaccia should be an inch thick, crunchy, soft and brittle, never rubbery, oily; sometimes sprayed lightly with white wine before baking. The typical process takes no less than 8 hours with a long time for rising. Here I propose a much quicker process that is just as good.

1.5 C water
1.75 Tbsp yeast
3-4 C flour
1 Tbsp salt
1 C extra-virgin olive oil
2 tsp sugar

Mix yeast & sugar with 1/2 C warm water. Let work. Pour flour in bowl, add remaining water, salt, & yeast brine. Knead 15-20+ minutes. It should be soft & stretchy - softer & stickier than pizza dough. Place dou…

That is a ton of olive oil. I think I'm going to try it with half that amount and see how it turns out.

rfusca

@Jay ya the computer is wicked good with Malphite and Wukong as a combo.

@Sobachatina awesome, thanks!

Jay

Someone should remind me to go shopping for food at the end of the day. I meant to do that on Monday but somehow i kept forgetting and its Thursday already

rfusca

@Jay You should go shopping for food at the end of the day.

Mien

:D

Jay

@rfusca lol at the end of the day would be helpful

rfusca

3:52 PM

Oh....

:)

Mien

it's already 5pm!

rumtscho

@Jay don't you have a phone?

Jay

it's the start of the day for me

rfusca

that seems like a really random statement

Jay

@rumtscho i assume that's rhetorical

rumtscho

3:53 PM

@Jay It is a reminder that you can set a reminder which doesn't forget to remind you

Jay

I guess I'm gonna make a shopping list now and leave it taped of my forehead

@rumtscho I could do that but wouldn't a piece of paper taped to my forehead be cooler?

rfusca

@rumtscho so are HoN adventures over?

rumtscho

writes down next time Jay tells you something is cool, remember that his criteria are weird.

@rfusca I sure don't want to spoil another team's game that way

Jay

@rumtscho Does HoN have bot games?

rumtscho

I would have tried it more if there had been a single player modus

rfusca

3:55 PM

@rumtscho do they have bot games you can practice on

rumtscho

@Jay I didn't find such an option

rfusca

that sucks

rumtscho

Maybe I didn't search enough

rfusca

Looking around the net, it doesn't look like there is

well I declare LoL the obvious winner then :)

Jay

@rfusca agreed

I'm also looking at some screenshots of HoN and the graphics seem so dark

i can easily see why it would get confusing

rfusca

3:58 PM

only time I get lost with my char is when there is a bunch of aoe spells

rumtscho

@jay the graphics aren't dark

It is just too much happening at once

and the figures all look the same way to me

Jay

@rumtscho O ok maybe it's just the screenshots that look that way. It looks hard to tell where the lanes or where you can walk is and where the wall is and where the jungle starts. In LoL it looks more "distinct"

rumtscho

Oh, I could recognize the lanes.

I just didn't know where my character is

Or whether the animals jumping around are on my side or on the enemy side

Jay

@rumtscho lol allows you to autolock camera to your hero, or if its not locked, space bar moves camera back

rumtscho

Or whether my character is currently attacking something or not

or whether something is shooting at my character

Jay

4:01 PM

See i never had that problem when i started playing it. LoL colors one side red and one side blue

rumtscho

The big monitor might have been a problem too, I definitely couldn't see all of the interface at once

Jay

@rumtscho Yea it could be that

And also the fact taht it was linux. It isn't meant for these type of games ^^

rumtscho

When I focused my vision on the point where the battle was raging, I didn't see what is changing on the edges of the screen

I don't think Linux has anything to do with it

rfusca

i wonder if you were trying to view too much at once

Jay

Just curious, would this actually work:cooking.stackexchange.com/a/21003/8305

rumtscho

4:04 PM

@rfusca Oh, even without that, I knew I will be bad

Jay

other than the fact that a 22 quart stock pot is outrageously large

rumtscho

I told you, in WoW I couldn't do anything in PvP

And there I was very experienced with the gameplay and with my character

Jay

@rumtscho DoTA genre originated from WoW pvp

rumtscho

I just never noticed somebody was attacking me until I died

Mien

You know what a health bar is, right?

:p

rfusca

4:06 PM

@Jay yes, it does

Jay

@Mien The bars you eat for concentrated proteins and stuff?

rumtscho

@Mien I could see that I am losing health if I was looking at the bar. But if I was looking at the bar, I wasn't looking at what is happening on the screen.

rfusca

@Jay no, it didn't

Jay

@rumtscho Then the interface is bad... you should be able to view your health bar and the screen simultaneously

rumtscho

And even if I noticed the health loss, I was dead before I had noticed my attacker on the screen.

rfusca

4:06 PM

it was a custom map on warcraft III , not WoW

way different

Jay

@rfusca oh, right. i got confused for a moment due to similar name

Mien

@rumtscho just quickly rightclick somewhere else on the map

rumtscho

@Jay I mean in WoW PVP, in HoN I was too confused to know what I'm looking at, so I didn't even bother looking at the health bar, I was trying to figure out the action

@Mien why?

rfusca

to move away

Jay

@rumtscho It's alright. There is nothing wrong with PvE

rumtscho

4:08 PM

Ah, you are still talking about HoN

THat's a thing I hated too

Moving by mouse

rfusca

even in LoL i enjoy playing against the bots, especially the new ones

Jay

@rumtscho that's how dota genre usually move champs

@rfusca I think with the new bots, its a lot more fun now

rfusca

@Jay ya

rumtscho

@Jay But I find it very inconvenient. Maybe I'm just not accustomed to it.

Jay

before you "figure out" the bots and it wasn't very challenging

rfusca

4:10 PM

i said fun, not challenging ;)

Jay

@rumtscho definitely. I wasn't used to it at first too but after you play a couple games, it becomes second nature

@rfusca haha

Mien

@rumtscho can't you change the settings then?

But I think moving by mouse is way better is this kind of game.

rumtscho

@jay as soon as I reach for a keyboard, I want to reach with both hands

Actually, my keyboard is always central on the desk and the mouse is shoved to the far right

Jay

I keep my left fingers of q,w,e,r and right hand on mouse. It's a very natural placement for me

and since q,w,e,r is on the left side, my mouse and keyboard is the same position it normally is

Sobachatina

@rumtscho Sounds kind of romantic. I'm glad you and your computer are so close.

3

Mien

4:13 PM

@Sobachatina Hello @Sobachatina :D

Sobachatina

Good morning.

Happy Groundhog's day!

Mien

Oh is that today?

Cool!

So, how will the weather be?

Happy GH day to you too!

rfusca

if we have more winter like this, who cares lol

Mien

It's very cold here :S

rfusca

60-70 F degrees

Mien

4:15 PM

for at least another week.

I haven't been outside in three days :D

rfusca

@Mien wimp

Mien

23 degrees here max

rumtscho

Don't tell me that you all code with a hand on the mouse and the left index finger hovering over the letters in a hook.

Mien

Why would I go outside anyway? :p

@rumtscho Don't tell me you code all day?

rumtscho

Oh, and happy gay people day.

Mien

4:16 PM

Is that a thing? :-/

rfusca

the next week and a half is supposed to be all low 60s, awesome

Jay

@rumtscho lol wth is that?

rfusca

A science teacher at my wife's school was telling all the students that a warm winter means we'll have a scorching summer...*sigh*

Jay

@rumtscho no when i code, i type... using both hands...

rumtscho

@Jay In Bulgaria, 2.2. is the day of gay people

rfusca

4:18 PM

@rumtscho i pretend I'm playing games when I code. I try to use != as often as possible. I consider it a kill shot.

2

Jay

@rumtscho lol ok. didnt know that. So what does it mean for bisexual people?

it's half their day?

rumtscho

But political correctness isn't very respected in BG, so it is mostly the subject of jokes.

Like boys giving yellow roses to their straight male classmates as an insult

Mien

Do straight people have a day as well in Bulgaria?

rumtscho

@Jay I don't think they have their own day

hobodave

mornin'

rfusca

4:19 PM

hey @hobo

Mien

hi @hobodave

Jay

@Mien everyday except 2/2 i assume? lol

rumtscho

@mien, no. There is a day of the women, a day of the children, etc. Some say that all other days are the day of the straight white man.

Jay

@rumtscho doesn't yellow roses mean friendship tho?

hobodave

welcome back @rumtscho

rumtscho

4:21 PM

@Jay Don't ask me etiquette questions.

Jay

@rumtscho I wouldn't really consider it etiquette per se

rumtscho

@hobodave thank you, did you miss me much?

Jay

@rumtscho he can't stop talking about you the whole day

hobodave

Of course, you were the topic for much of yesterday :P

rumtscho

@Jay I find flower "talk" one of the more obscure areas of etiquette

Jay

4:22 PM

the whole time it was " omg why isnt @rumtscho here"

rfusca

Feb is 'Black History Month"...do you know the uproar if we had "White History Month"...

rumtscho

@hobodave I read the transcript for dinner

rfusca

lol

hobodave

did you find it nourishing?

Sobachatina

:)

Jay

4:23 PM

@rumtscho during dinner you mean? :P

rumtscho

@hobodave True food for the soul

rfusca

@Sobachatina do you know when you're gonna try that bread?

Sobachatina

@rfusca I don't know. I don't know if I have enough olive oil left.

My pizza last night was mediocre.

There is still learning to be done.

It was edible but not crisp- to bready. but not soggy.

The oven was hot but perhaps not hot enough.

How much of a difference does the oil content of the dough make?

rfusca

@Sobachatina i use very, very little oil in mine

Sobachatina

Does pizza dough usually have more oil than normal bread dough or does it not matter?

rfusca

4:27 PM

if any

Sobachatina

Ok- I will consider that not the crucial variable then.

rumtscho

@Sobachatina I haven't heard of pizza dough with oil in it

rfusca

the recipe I like most is from bba - pain al ancienne

no oil

just flour salt water yeast

Sobachatina

Ok- we'll try again then.

rfusca

what are you baking on?

pizza stone? cookie sheet?

Sobachatina

4:29 PM

A metal pizza pan with holes punched in the bottom.

hobodave

I am craving pizza

rfusca

@rumtscho oh there's definitely oil in some recipes

Sobachatina

Not as good as a stone but better than a solid pan.

A large stone is on my list of things to have.

rfusca

i didn't care for a stone actually - have to preheat waaaaaaaaaaay too long for it to be effective

mine eventually cracked, and I did not replace it. I either do cast iron or one of these

amazon.com/Winware-16-Inch-Seamless-Aluminum-Screen/dp/…

Sobachatina

I also want it for artisan bread. I've also wanted to try using one on the grill.

rfusca

4:32 PM

@Sobachatina ya, i do artisan bread on my CI griddle. But I can understand wanting a stone

Sobachatina

Yesterday I went on a "date" sort of.

rfusca

does your wife know?

Sobachatina

I put the kids to bed and then we had chocolate fondue to candlelight.

rfusca

;)

nice!

Sobachatina

I bought a bunch of random stuff to dip into it on the way home.

I was dismayed to find that we don't have any cayenne pepper or chili powder. I ended up adding some smoked paprika and it was good.

rfusca

4:35 PM

interesting

rumtscho

@Sobachatina A door handle, a tin soldier, a 5.25" floppy, and a copy of The Hobbit in Norwegian?

Jay

@hobodave that's against your diet right? Do you ever cheat?

Sobachatina

lol

rfusca

@Jay you missed his bit petzel bun yesterday?

hobodave

yes I cheat

rumtscho

4:36 PM

I mean, you said "random stuff"...

hobodave

one day a week

Jay

@rfusca oh wait no i was there. i just forgot

rfusca

regular cheating is 'good' for a long term diet - you're more likely to stick to the overall diet longer

Sobachatina

@rumtscho True- I wonder if chocolate dipped Hobbit tastes different in Norwegian.

Mien

There were bird noises in something I was watching on my pc and now my cat is hunting the whole room searching for birds...

Jay

4:37 PM

@Mien silly cat

Sobachatina

@Jay birds are for kids!

rumtscho

@Sobachatina I have heard that Finland produces prime quality paper, maybe it would make a difference if it was a Finnish and not Norwegian publication

rfusca

lol

Sobachatina

@rumtscho Obviously we need more information. Will you ask the question or should I?

rumtscho

@Sobachatina due to the lack of Nordic regular users, we'll have to resort to home experiments if we want the question to get answered.

Sobachatina

4:40 PM

@rumtscho Perhaps- on the other hand this might be what we need to build the Nordic readership.

Jay

@Sobachatina agreed

Sobachatina

If we can work fermented fish into the question it would be even more effective.

rumtscho

Fermented fish and chocolate in the same question?

I am happy I finished my snacking before I read about that.

rfusca

@rumtscho you're concerned about fermented fish and chocolate - but not eating a book....

Mien

Paper doesn't have a strong flavour.

Jay

4:46 PM

@Mien yes but your stomach will have a problem digesting it...

Mien

Never had a problem with it.

Jay

@Mien with digesting paper? really?

Mien

But I've never eaten a book.

@Jay Yes.

Jay

why are you eating paper again?

rumtscho

@rfusca I am afraid that fermented fish will violently clash with the chocolate (or with anything else). Paper, on the other hand, might be a high-fiber alternative to phylo. And you know how many people don't want to use ebooks because they love the aroma of ink?

Mien

4:47 PM

@Jay Because I was a kid.

I love the smell of new books! :D

rumtscho

@jay I mostly eat paper because I am too engulfed in reading or something similar to notice that I have reached the wrap of my sandwich.

Jay

@Mien i love the convenience of a ebook

rfusca

I love the smell of air freshener, that doesn't mean I'm gonna drink a can of it

Mien

I don't have a kindle.

rumtscho

I wanted to have a kindle before e-Ink was invented.

Sobachatina

4:48 PM

eBooks are much less satisfying. And it's hard to get the chocolate to adhere properly.

rfusca

There's a place in Atlanta that uses paper straws in their drinks...I hate the taste of paper

my wife LOVES her kindle

rumtscho

I had to read from CRTs instead, that was inconvenient.

Jay

@rfusca I love my kindle too :)

rumtscho

LCD's were a big improvement, I even got a long cable and used to take my (17 inch) monitor to bed

Mien

Do you guys have lollypops on hard paper sticks?

Jay

4:50 PM

@rumtscho oh god lol

Mien

Never tried to take your CRT in bed? :D

Sobachatina

@Mien It gets hotter on cold nights.

I find LCDs too cold. And aloof.

rumtscho

@Mien I think a 15 inch CRT weighed somewhere above 10 kg

rfusca

@Sobachatina snuggling up to a LCD just doesn't do it for ya?

Jay

@rumtscho, over and over and over again, you reaffirm our suspicions about you either being a robot, or have a fetish for technology/machines

rfusca

4:51 PM

I had to pay somebody to take my 23" CRT a few years ago

Sobachatina

@rfusca I dropped mine off in the work electronics recycling bins.

22" though- I bow before your superiorly sized obsolete technology.

rumtscho

@Jay It starts with people suspecting it, and I am too nice and don't want to disappoint them, so I continue carefully phrasing my sentences in a way which confirms their expectations

rfusca

lol

@Mien (btw, yes)

rumtscho

But I love the look on the face of a new acquaintance when they are told by my friends that "she sleeps with her laptop"

Mien

So @rumtscho how many ram do you have?

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