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6:13 PM
@A_V can you provide a concrete example?
@PaulVargas that's a little high for a very old and used smartphone
I would buy it for no more than $100 unless it's in nearly pristine condition
the S5 isn't a very good phone anyway; terrible battery life, fragile, needs a case, not water resistant
 
6:28 PM
@allquicatic It's not that old
Battery life was fine... case, personal preference, and is water resistant. I've jumped in pools with it many times and swam in the ocean
The water resistance only failed slightly after I was hit by a 2m wave, which is forgiveable when it's only rated for 1m stationary water.
 
@kerbalspacecat oh right, I couldn't remember when they started IP* certifying their phones
 
@allquicatic The S5 was the first
 
but I had an S5 and the battery life wasn't fine... then again I'm a battery life snob and I've only had a great experience with battery life on Motorola
and hopefully the iPhone 7 Plus will be better than the 6S+, which already is better than most Android phones I've used
 
I've only had great battery life with Sony. But hey, it has a replaceable battery, so meh.
Still can't believe how good the Xperia Z3 compact was... and it wasn't even a gimped "compact"
 
replaceable battery is a nice feature - especially if they start making progress in battery technology, you might be able to buy a battery with the same form factor as your original but with higher capacity (and not just a marketing gimmick)
 
6:32 PM
Granted it was fat and chunky, which was a result of using an old design and waterproofing it by making it bigger.
I've not really noticed a huge difference in Android battery life over the last four or five years or so.
 
I'm already keenly dialed-in on battery technology advances because I own a hybrid vehicle (Prius C / Yaris Hybrid) that has a "current" (2012-level tech) NiMh 0.9 kWh battery pack, but there are better NiMh and Li-Ion/Li-Po batteries coming that may be even better, without increasing weight or decreasing service life
I'm intending to keep the vehicle until major parts of the drive train start failing, so I'll almost certainly end up replacing the battery pack
 
Problem with battery technologies is it seems like every other week I read about this "new battery technology that could DOUBLE battery life" etc. etc. and well... ten years on I'm still seeing Li-Ion everywhere
 
not going to "upgrade" the battery pack while it's working fine, but when its performance is degraded I will start thinking about it
@kerbalspacecat BASF -- the same company that makes Basotect (foamized glass, used in Magic Erasers, etc.) -- is actively developing a manufacturing plant to chunk out lots of new NiMH batteries with about a 50% better energy density than current-gen NiMH, putting them on-par with Li-Ion, but with the same cost as NiMH (which are much cheaper than Li-Ion)
they're way past the basic science and engineering of the battery chemistry itself; they know how to make them; they're just trying to build the plant to produce them en masse
 
@allquicatic Hmm. I'm only really concerned with "premium" devices anyway, where cost (at least of the battery) is a negligible concern compared to energy density.
Heck even fully electric cars... have plenty of space to double or triple the existing battery pack sizes if you sacrificed storage or seating
 
@kerbalspacecat when using Li-Ion batteries would greatly increase the cost of a hybrid vehicle, NiMH that's as good as Li-Ion while being cheaper is a fairly significant breakthrough
but it's basically useless for smartphones
hell even low-end smartphones use Li-Ion
might be able to get a bigger battery for the same cost using BASF NiMH, if they intentionally crippled the smartphone's battery to make a true budget smartphone... but that wouldn't be a factor in flagship devices
 
6:39 PM
@allquicatic Well i dunno about hybrids, I've had my eye on the fully electrics for a while
What makes battery cost a bigger concern in hybrids compared to full EVs anyway?
 
I have range anxiety because my area has lots of different places that I occasionally need to visit with ranges between them varying from 10 km to 100 km, and might need to go to one unexpectedly and I need to be able to get there, so I need a way to convert a readily-available, immediately-accessible transportation fuel such as gasoline into distance
so I can't buy an EV until/unless they have extremely fast charging where I can get at least 150km range on a 5-minute charge
 
I dunno about 5 minutes, but given ranges of 450km+ you'd have to be regularly leaving your battery at <33% to have any issues...
 
the most I can do is a plug-in hybrid, which can run in full electric mode 40 to 50 km, then kicks over to a gasoline engine (direct drive and recharging the battery) with around a 650 km range on a full tank of gasoline
right now I have a non-plug-in hybrid, but my next car will probably be a plug-in hybrid
 
I've always planned for my first car to be at least hybrid if not plug-in EV of some sort. But still have had no need to buy a car. Still don't even have a driving license for that matter...
 
my car has the best fuel economy of any vehicle that isn't either a full EV or plug-in hybrid, that's currently on the market in the U.S.
 
6:44 PM
Motorbike... can do 300km on a tank at a stretch, but you'd be safer aiming for 250km
 
and I exceed the EPA's pessimistic fuel economy estimates on most trips
(my trip to work involves a ~4 km steep incline and I get terrible fuel efficiency there, but the rest of my trip is relatively flat, and my trip home is a steep decline down the same hill, so I get insanely great MPG going home)
 
Mine varies between about 12 miles/L in bad traffic to 18 miles/L at ideal speed on the highway.
But at normal highway speeds (i.e. to not get rear-ended at 40mph) it does 13-14 miles per litre.
 
miles per liter? is that what you really use for fuel economy usually?
 
We usually use miles per gallon, but the indicator on my bike reads miles per litre
 
6:46 PM
I think the other option is litres per kilometer
But since we measure nothing in kilometres in this country (unless you're a scientist, because metric makes too much sense for everyone else) that's not too helpful
Yeah, the indicator on my bike is an oddity. MPG is what we normally use
Granted, US gallon vs. imperial gallon is confusing enough, so I like it in litres
 
in MPG I know it from memory: going to work, highway speeds, no traffic, I get around 26 MPG while accelerating; 48 on a flat highway at 65 mph; down to 38-40 (immediate, not average) during the steep incline; then 60 - 90 MPG during the final leg of the trip which is low-speed city driving
averaging out all the different legs of my morning commute, I get around 47 - 51 MPG in the summer, and 43 - 47 MPG in the winter
on the way home, add another 15 - 20 MPG to those numbers due to the steep downhill
 
Also our petrol pumps all measure in litres so I dunno why the heck we use miles per gallon as standard
 
lol
 
My tank is specified in gallons. Our petrol pumps are specified in litres. Grr
Whyyyyyy
 
do you ever use that weird Liters per 100 km thing that Bob uses?
 
6:52 PM
I don't, but i know europeans who do. Apparently it's fairly common on the continent
As I say I think the bike display can be switched to litres per km/100km (or miles, not sure).
 
I imagine it would be even worse to do, like, cups per 874 yards, or feet per milliliter, but there are so many annoying standards and I hate it when they combine imperial and SI units in the same measurement
 
Yeah...
 
miles per liter is abhorrent to me :P use miles per gallon or kilometers per liter
 
Maybe the whole litres thing was to synchronize driving regs with the rest of the EU... which we won't be in for long mwahahah!
 
yeah, then there'll be another de-standardization effort, and the car manufacturers will have to state the UK fuel economy on the sticker in a different format than on the continent
 
6:54 PM
I suspect I'll have to still obtain an EU-compliant driving license though... to, y'know, drive... in the EU
 
I'm sure Volkswagen is just thrilled
 
lol
I'm pretty sure at some point I had in my head an easy conversion from miles per litre to miles per gallon
Well actually it's quite literally litres per gallon
But I still don't get the difference between US gallons and imperial gallons
 
if you ask a physics professor he would say meters per liter :P SI ftw
@kerbalspacecat Imperial gallons have to be pronounced with a Queen's English accent :P
which isn't very easy for me
 
Apparently displaying miles at all on the speedo is a UK-only modification on my bike, in all other countries it just displays km/h
Huh, so the "international" model will display L/100km or km/L but the UK model only does miles/L
whyyyyy
I wonder if I can software mod it >_>
> Proposed H3G 6No LDF4-50 feeders for proposed H3G 1800 to follow propsed 150mm dia duct from proposed H3G pagona cabinet to proposed pre-rigged phase 4 monopole
Who writes this shit
 
7:16 PM
Wawawawawawao.
 
dear world
a working ear would be really good right now
 
Valsalva?
Ibuprofen + (pseudoephedrine or doxylamine or diphenhydramine)?
 
o_O
?is one of those pretend
or just water?
:D
 
if i angle my jaw a certain way it clears
 
7:22 PM
My ear hurts but it still works...
 
it's just massively swollen still, so moving my jaw causes it to open/close with the noise that makes it's urgggh
 
@djsmiley2k that's me every day since I was a kid
had tubes in both ears twice, about 30 ear infections, lots of scar tissue on the ear drum, perforated ear drums, blood blisters...
 
chronic upper respiratory congestion, allergies, the works
 
@allquicatic how are you not actually insane?
eating is so loud i'm going bonkers
 
7:27 PM
cetirizine, the valsalva maneuver, and hot tea
sometimes doxylamine (Nyquil) when going to bed if it's particularly bad that day
a HEPA filter air purifier in my room
there are ways to manage it
 
oh yeah i've done the valsalva thing
it was helping yesterday
but now i think all the liquid has drained, nothing is coming out today
but still swollen like hell which is causing the issues
 
I have a procedure for determining whether I have an inner ear infection
get in a car, put a window part-way down and drive at highway speeds... if you feel an oscillating pressure in your ear, congratulations, you have an ear infection
frequency of oscillations might be around 20 or 30 Hz give or take
ear infections may clear on their own, but unless you have a great immune system, there's a high risk of eardrum perforation which can cause permanent scar tissue buildup and harm your hearing
 
7:47 PM
yeah this isn't an infection
this swollenness
 
8:00 PM
welp. macOS Sierra and iOS 10 installed
iOS 10 is noticeably different; macOS Sierra, not so much
 
phi
8:16 PM
@allquicatic upload got fast. did you unclogged my connection?!?!
 
8:29 PM
@kerbalspacecat And don't forget Scots Gallons - a traditional unit of volume in Scotland equal to 4 Scots quarts. This is almost exactly 3 British Imperial gallons, 3.6 U.S. liquid gallons, or 13.63 liters.
And to clear up any remaining confusion:

gallon (gal) [1]
a traditional unit of liquid volume, derived from the Roman galeta, which originally meant a pailful. Gallons of various sizes have been used in Europe ever since Roman times. In the United States, the liquid gallon is legally defined as exactly 231 cubic inches; this is equal to the old English wine gallon, which originated in medieval times but was not standardized until 1707, during the reign of Queen Anne. Some scholars believe the wine gallon was originally designed to hold 8 troy pounds of wine. The U. S. gallon holds 4 liquid
 
well mr robot was weird
 
8:52 PM
@phi Computers often work when I look at them :)
 
@tereško Mostly true for a typical end-user, but if you put Eve in the skillful hands of Louis Rossmann or Jessa Jones (or dozens of other top microsoldering / iDevice repair experts), they could fix almost any issue with her :P
 
54
Q: Is it inappropriate to tell my students to check their school email?

drkmno4I am a new STEM faculty member at a primarily undergraduate institution. I emailed my students (through the school-mandated online course management system) before the beginning of the term about the availability of the syllabus online, as well as other things. Several students told me that they ...

wut?
I don't see how this would be inappropriate. I've had several professors during my first few years in college tell us, "please check your college email at least daily". Nobody in any of the classes I've taken have objected to this. (Granted, I pull my college email through the Thunderbird email client on my laptop, so I'm always up-to-date, but not everyone knows how to set up POP3...) — bwDraco 2 mins ago
 
jrh
superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/572813 I don't quite follow why this should be a comment, shouldn't the answer be updated to reflect the latest OS?
 
...on a second look, I likely would have accepted the edit.
 
jrh
9:06 PM
Also this seems to be a feature people want, it might be valuable to link Microsoft's official reason for removing it
 
brb.
 
jrh
somebody linked it before but microsoft always breaks its links
well... not always, but the links that get broken tend to have a high correlation with certain unpopular decisions....
most of the Windows 8 stuff is 404 city now
 
...and there is no unified help system for Windows 10 anymore. It's all handled through Cortana.
 
jrh
oh geez
I thought it couldn't get any worse after the whole "stop using hlp but we can't even decide what's standardized" thing that happened around Windows 7
 
What are you suggesting, windows 8 is an unpopular decision?
 
jrh
9:12 PM
"404 city" is mostly coming from all the edits I had to do on this question ux.stackexchange.com/questions/17257/…
Windows Store Apps AKA Metro Apps, which turned into UWP, etc.
Windows 8 didn't do so well in sales, e.g., this usage chart shows that it's below Windows XP at around 8% market share netmarketshare.com/… , IIRC it never exceeded 15% marketshare
 
@jrh fake
there can't be more machines running 2000 than machines running 98
 
jrh
This one puts Win8 at around 8% and XP at around 6 statista.com/statistics/218089/global-market-share-of-windows-7 , W3schools puts Win8 at 12% w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_os.asp
 
@SmokingGorilla That question is only 30 minutes old. Why are you spamming linking it here?
 
Sorry if I have caused an inconvenience here. Please trash my chat comment ^.
 
9:24 PM
lol
nah just wait
tho iirc iwconfig is old and you need wpa_supplicant
 
@jrh Meh, it did it's job. As soon as it was released, Windows XP, Windows Vista, and Windows 7 market share all started declining.
 
@SmokingGorilla just use NetworkManager...
 
@SmokingGorilla It's not really an inconvenience for a single question. But imagine what would happen if that happened with every question? And it's not even your question.
 
@DavidPostill I totally agree with you Sir, and hence my apologies. BTW, it is me, but I'm not sure why my name is not the same
@allquicatic NetworkManager doesn't come with Kali Linux ;(
 
it's 2016; people should really stop messing around with manual wifi networking on GNU/Linux when there's a perfectly viable solution available
@SmokingGorilla then that's the distro's fault; use a distro that doesn't suck
 
9:28 PM
lol what if X isn't working @allquicatic?
 
@allquicatic can you recommend a better alternative?
 
@SmokingGorilla uh... Ubuntu?
 
@SmokingGorilla For noobs, Ubuntu
 
@djsmiley2k can you please speak English to me?
 
or mint
 
9:28 PM
Connecting to Wireless is basically the same under Ubuntu as it is under Windows.
 
!! s/noobs/people who don't want to spend all day just getting their system to work/
 
@allquicatic @SmokingGorilla For people who don't want to spend all day just getting their system to work, Ubuntu (source)
 
@SmokingGorilla you need to use wpa_supplicant; I don't know how kali does this.
 
@allquicatic Installing Kali without knowing how to connect to wireless under Linux :-/
 
So I should get a fresh install Ubuntu?
 
9:29 PM
also, apparently NetworkManager is available on Kali; it may not be activated by default or you may have to install it through a package manager, but people are talking about it here: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/273941/…
 
I mean it's basically an advanced wireless hacking distro.
 
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Q: Missing network manager in Kali Linux?

AerovistaeI'm having some serious issues with the network manager in Kali. I have read 25+ other threads / questions with this problem to no avail. Here is what is happening. Essentially the icon is missing from the top and there seems to be no way to open it. On a Kali Linux live USB (latest stable versi...

looks like it might use apt as its package manager (I've never installed it before)
 
@allquicatic Obviously, it's based on Ubuntu :-P
(It's an evolution of Backtrack, if you remember that)
 
@kerbalspacecat oh, is it?
 
@allquicatic Ya
 
9:31 PM
then apt install NetworkManager and maybe grabbing nmcli (not sure of what package it's in) should do the trick
well. depends on your DE. if he's headless then he'll need nmcli; otherwise, the DE-specific applet
 
Well, OK, strictly speaking it's based on Debian and Backtrack, the latter of which was based on Ubuntu
But yeah, standard apt.
Also:
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Q: Connecting to wifi network through command line

Jayson CondorI am trying to connect to my WEP network just using the command-line (Linux). I run: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Managed essid 'my_network' key 'xx:xx:... hex key, 26 digits' Then I try to obtain an IP with sudo dhclient -v wlan0 or sudo dhclient wlan0 without success (tried to ping google...

 
who still uses WEP?
 
Meh, the first answer even assumes WPA
 
@allquicatic oh god no
wep is a terrible piece of technology that shoulda have never been existed in the first place
 
!!fwog
 
I'm surprised you haven't made that animated yet
 
@kerbalspacecat I like the Mammot, the Fwog, the Potbelly and the Toe Jammer the most :P
 
@allquicatic: be sure to award the bounty
yesterday, by allquicatic
remind me in 23 hours to go back and reward it to bwDraco
 
9:57 PM
@bwDraco thanks -- but based on the discussion around here and in the comments I think I will wait at least half of the 7 day window to see if any new answers pop up or any major revisions to the existing answers
I'm confused myself about what's true and what's not and I think it needs time to "bake"
(along with authoritative sources to substantiate claims)
 
What I said is true, what he said is not, simples.
Kinda hard to prove a negative though
 
@kerbalspacecat So write your own answer and let the votes decide.
 
Yeah. That's a good idea.
 
@DavidPostill butb utbut thatd be productive :O
 
10:13 PM
@DavidPostill Already went over that yesterday. Try to keep up!
 
@kerbalspacecat I have kept up. I am asking you to write an answer to justify "What I said is true, what he said is not, simples.".
You clearly don't have to but it would be good for your credibility if you did.
Put your money where your mouth is ...
 
That's the thing about holding a position that there is some kind of common misconception out there that needs to be dispelled. If you just say it's wrong, but can't explain the correct principles that would lead to one to conclude in a way that agrees with what you actually think is correct, then you have no better an understanding of the situation than someone with the alleged misconception.
Or you have the understanding but can't enunciate it, which is completely useless in helping to clear up the misconception.
 
10:28 PM
@allquicatic The correct principles are the accepted status quo, that there's nothing to substantiate. It's the people who claim there is a problem that need to prove there is a problem.
I mean I can round up several of reports of "problems" and prove they're unrelated, but I can't round up every single person who has not had a problem to prove there isn't one.
 
Okay. What's the color accuracy and gamut of gaming monitors these days?
 
@kerbalspacecat IIRC you admitted that sufficiently old PSUs with certain problems in their design would cause this, so you can simply answer with a conditional, like: If a PSU exists that meets <these criteria> and is electrically compatible with Haswell (or whatever), then it'll be problematic; but that's not an actual problem with any PSUs I'm aware of because all PSUs I've ever seen that are compatible with Haswell aren't designed this way. Or something like that.
 
Are they capable of covering a substantial majority of Adobe RGB?
 
That would cover all your bases, whether any such PSUs exist or not.
 
@allquicatic No I didn't, I said there weren't any problems with this
Sufficiently old PSUs can't be proven to be Haswell compatible (12V2 output wise) since they won't connect to a Haswell system at all.
 
10:32 PM
Folks are recommending against gaming displays for serious photo editing, but I'm not sure how current this advice is given that IPS displays are becoming commonplace even in high-end gaming displays.
 
If a CPU meets these criteria: Is an ATX PSU that can be connected to Haswell motherboard, then it is electrically compatible with Haswell.
But that's still entirely besides the point. The question was asked years before Haswell even existed, so it cannot possibly have been a "Haswell-only" issue.
 
@kerbalspacecat All of this sounds like an answer to me. You don't have to exhaustively prove the absence of a problem by examining every single instance; it seems like you have enough knowledge of the standards though to show that a PSU that isn't absolute trash and deliberately broken by design -- which are criteria the OP placed on his question -- will work fine and there's no actual problem
 
@kerbalspacecat "The question was asked years before Haswell even existed" Huh? The question was "asked Mar 10 at 9:44". If you can't even get that right why should we believe anything else?
 
since you can assume (from the OP's own statements) that every PSU under consideration meets certain base criteria, you can eliminate entire classes of potential objections to an answer that "there isn't a problem".
> For the sake of this question, please assume the PSU is otherwise perfectly good quality—not a $2 doorstop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
10:38 PM
So if someone says "But what if a PSU is badly designed?" their inquiry is invalid
 
"Haswell: 22 nm microarchitecture, released June 3, 2013"
 
Heck, even the fact that the example supply the OP linked is claimed to be a group regulated supply by one reviewer and not a group regulated supply by another reviewer substantiates the fact there's a crap-ton of misinformation going around.
@allquicatic Meh, I only like writing answers to HNQs
Also I don't like looking like a bounty hunter
BUT IF YOU INSIST...
 
10:54 PM
Oh hey, another Facebook about-face on another photograph censorship issue as soon as famous people got involved...
 
11:05 PM
@kerbalspacecat too late; harrymc is already there ;p
nobody else can possibly look like more of a bounty hunter than him
he is the epitome of a bounty hunter
Platonic ideal / epitome of a concept
Kick-ass karate ninja = Chuck Norris
Kick-ass coder = Jon Skeet
Person who must ANSWER ALL THE BOUNTIES = harrymc
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Does anyone know of a 24-inch IPS display that does at least 120 Hz refresh, has 1440p resolution, supports G-SYNC, and covers at least 90% of Adobe RGB?
I know the "120 Hz refresh"/"G-SYNC" and "90% Adobe RGB coverage" requirements may seem mutually exclusive, but bear with me.
...I might have to relax the size requirement. 27-inch?
...okay, what's the color gamut on this display?
100% sRGB is good news, but I want better than this.
This is for a future PC build.
I hate having to maintain separate monitors for gaming and color-critical work.
 
Ah good old Bounty Hunger Harry. Just in time to save me from the burden of having to write a draco placating answer.
 
11:28 PM
Jun 26 at 13:14, by bwDraco
Any display can look fantastic when properly calibrated. It ultimately comes down to color precision and gamut.
Ah well. 100% sRGB is nothing to scoff at for a gaming IPS panel.
After all, I didn't spend the $160 on a colorimeter for no reason.
 
11:52 PM
@bwDraco seems like the makings of a hardware recs question....
 
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