What's complicated?

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere It is not.

Has someone followed the stock problems for GTX 1070/1080? Can you infer how long it should take for the GTX 1060 to stop being out of stock?

I had to create folders to add a new user using terminal because Im using ubuntu server

now how do I get normal terminal

I guess right click doesn't help?

at last I had to INSTALL gnome-terminal

so many complications

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Wait, you're using a graphic environment on a non-headless Ubuntu Server?

...and perfect I cant paste

ubuntu server 14.04 x64 -> install ubunt-desktop

cool I instaled firefox and the server froze

Why do you need a browser on a server? :o

Im trying to install gitlab-ce and it isnt working

from the termina;

hahaha not enough memory for firefox

why did I spend 40 bucks on this server if its not even going to work :/

Can't help much

Guh, this stuff is making me want to buy a GTX 1070 even though it's clearly too expensive for the performance it offers compared to the GTX 1060. But whenever will the GTX 1060 actually be available? I can't even know.

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Well, maybe that's what's wrong.

dont worry as long as you dont run 2 virtual machines, a web browser with many tabs, vlc media player watching a music video, and 2 maple story old version game clients all at the same time you're fine and that GPU will last you :)

what is the problem @ThatBrazilianGuy ?

Running ubuntu desktop on a ubuntu server. I suppose thinks will be wonky.

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere The Intel HD 530? I don't think it can handle games very well though.

I played starcraft on high settings AND maplestory at THE SAME TIME

it's a little beast

it was interesting because in my task manager, if I take a look at GPU Usage, it was like 80-100% running just starcraft then 76-100% running both starxcraft and maple I think it was just running 100% the whole time

.....You're making me want to try Dark Souls III on it.

Ariane are you a female?

Ehm yes?

I'm sorry I had to ask.

that's nice :)

But why?

..I'm attracted to females

oh man

who was it

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere You have low standards a quite broad range.

As someone no one wants to date I can confirm this

excuse me? Ariane is a very fine girl.

well now I want to be your friend outside of stack exchange :(

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I don't doubt this. My comment was a response to "I'm attracted to females"

xD

In this form, it's a rather too vague statement.

I guess it can also be a simple statement of sexual orientation

Eh. Hi.

no one else knows my name!

thy shall never will

Now I do... (And potentially all mods and room owners, they can see removed messages)

it's okay I trust you since you comment on my behaviour

I find it friendly

!!caaaaat

OMG

kitttttties

!!caaaat

Im going to learn to use ubuntu from the command line :)

...

@Ariane would you like to join me in a voice chat on discord?

I didn't know there was any other way of using Ubuntu

yeah you can use your mouse

Im sure you like that

Hmm. Don't have one.

dont lie... I can see how puffy your belly is

well thats that,

Eh a voice chat? Why?

OK, no, I think a tough game like DS3 would just melt my processor. No go, that was hopeful thinking

I feel uncomfortable voice chatting, so I'm trying to push myself to get myself more comfortable, so in the end I'll be more comfortable to talk people in person

So you... want me to be your practice partner?

EWW THE CAT ATE THE MOUSE

yeah that would be cool

I don't mind helping you out, but not for long. Voice chats tire me out after a while.

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere, IIRC @Ariane is not single.

oh dang thats okay Im just looking for friends :P

@ThatBrazilianGuy chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/31246991#31246991

oh shes single

I guess I can ask her out on a date later if it costs less than 300 bucks to go see her

That doesn't make me particularly interested in someone who's clumsily trying to hit on me over a PC chat on the criteria that I'm female.

Ouch that was unnecessarily harsh.

I havent tried to hit on you yet and I dont think I want to anymore

anymore as in I used to like to play around and hit on people

this is taylor swift we're discussing right? phew we're not off topic.

Please remember that Root Access is not a dating site.

Hahaha

That would be really weird though. "I hear you can meet nice young people here". "Eh no we're just a PC chat"

why did you use the word young

AGEISM!

Hmmmm. Dunno, I tend to think after a certain age everyone is taken, even though that's false.

do you think Im nice

Crap, chat is being weird again.

I don't have an opinion on that........?

wait let me leave

Some of us get taken and then get given away later ... :/

:(

Sad stuff.

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Wait, so is Root Access a same-sex-only dating site?

Huh. So playing a 3D game like Hearthstone on integrated graphics slows down the whole computer, since the CPU and GPU are the same thing. Interesting.

...are you secretly implying you'd accept my offer on a coffee date @BenN ?

@Ariane thats completely untrue

the cpu and gpu in intel processors are on a completely seperate die

er die did I use the right word

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Then why does my typing lag in this chatroom now that I've started up Hearthstone?

My guess is that your browser uses hardware acceleration

hmm that would imply typing uses the gpu since the 6600K shouldnt be maxing

but yes that happened to me on the 530

My CPU is at 80% btw

what

how many threads does heartsone have :o

I have no idea

@Ariane did you get your new one yet?

ah it went down to 60 by the time I took a screenshot

@Bob CPU? Yessir.

Got it assembled alright, then? :)

if firefox is using the most RAM and 6GB is being used..

@Bob For once I had nothing to do with it!

are you running windows update in the abcgkround

@Bob I think so! Had some driver troubles because I'm running an old Windows install on new hardware but I think it's solved by now. Now I just need the GTX 1060 to come out D:

Who me?

is it windows 10

yes you

!!headdesk

yes indeed

Yes it's Windows 10, and I don't know if Windows Update is running

So I impulse bought a "motorcycle" today

I love motorcycles

"motorcycle" = bicycle with a motor?

@cat o.O

@Ariane can you show me your wattages and temperatures? :) hwmonitor is a fun program

$6000 down the drain because I was too impatient to wait a few days

LOL you guys "showing off your 6700k"

@Ariane That's basically the definition of a motorcycle, yes

@Ariane typing lagging while gaming... Yea I get that with a dgpu :P

Something about video drivers and interrupt latency

Typing lagging while gaming is Windows being too stupid to have two render paths for the desktop and game

And yeah, what Bob said

@cat I meant... An actual bicycle with pedals

@Ariane Technically that's a moped

@cat I was wondering what you meant by those quotes

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere sure, lemme install that

@Ariane Well it's a motorcycle in that it requires a motorcycle license and motorcycle insurance to ride, but hardcore motorcyclists would probably say it's not a real motorcycle

@cat It's a tiny one?

Basically it's an overpowered scooter.

oh dang

In fact, it's entirely an overpowered scooter.

please dont ride your scooter on the road. keep it on the sidewalk

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Sorry, vehicles doing 100mph aren't allowed on the sidwalk

Maximum speed on a sidewalk is 4mph

Oh. Sounds useful.

you know there was this one time I was walking home from school and a granny was pushing a shopping cart along the street!!!!!!!!!!!

ON THE ROAD

@Ariane It is very useful

image not found sorry cat

oh what a fine throne for a majestica kitty :D

nice motorcycle man

@cat Ah that definitely has the look of a scooter more than a motorcycle

is it electric

Half the insurance of a "proper" motorcycle and ten times more storage space. Handy for trips where you have to actually... carry stuff

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere No, 400cc petrol engine

Whoa, nice.

Although would be cooler if it was electric

Hence why you need a motorcycle license

does it being long make it harder to control? like sharp turns

@Ariane Yeah, electric motorcycles exist, but they have very poor range here.

@Ariane you're into electri? :P

:(

you can buy me a tesla car

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Who isn't? Electric transportation is cool.

then Ill buy myself an electric motorcycle when nce looking ones come out in the 10G range

Insane torque, and decent city range, but really shitty range on the highway

..and Im stressing myself out by saying too much in an attempt to stay "in the group"

I have to do 120 miles on the highway and it takes 6 hours to charge, so yeah... not practical

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I had to borrow money from a friend to change my CPU, motherboard and RAM. Gives you an idea of my finances.

Yea, electric isn't going to do much good between cities in au

That said if they put in bigger batteries and add fast charging like them Tesla cars, it might catch on

it's okay I used my highschool savings and a bunch of work to upgrade mine

170 mile range in the city but only 80 miles on the highway

They don't all have fast charging?

does your IO shield light up any colour you want? and does your motherboard have a power button on it and does it have pretty lights on it too?

@Ariane Electric bikes don't, and not all electric cars do either

zeromotorcycles.com/eu/zero-s-specs?model=sr

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere My IO shield isn't installed because I couldn't figure out how to install it. My motherboard has a couple of lights. Wouldn't say they're pretty.

That's quite improved over last year's model actually

oh :(

Unfortunately the "charge tank" replaces the "battery tank" so to get fast charging you have to remove part of the battery :-/

why didnt you ask us for help installing the IO Shield then? :(

Dunno. Figured maybe my case wasn't compatible. Also it didn't seem practical

whats better centOS debian or ubuntu

Small motorbikes are insanely efficient though, easily do over 250 miles on a tank, and for less than $8 if you're in the US

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I have HWMonitor installed. What did you want exactly?

$20 in the UK :-(

@cat That's impressive. Too bad they're scary.

powers and temperatures

!!powers

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Your CPU is using 0.2 watts of power? You must be running a fancy atom!~

@Ariane Yeah, first time I got on one was pretty damn scary too

(Didn't help that I was untrained and it was illegal)

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere While running Hearthstone or not?

@cat I'm not a good example though. Driving cars also scares me.

@Ariane I'm actually more scared of doing car lessons than doing motorcycle lessons

@cat Why?

uhm sure Im just asking for fun stuff, it's not going to help you other than comparing your 6600k temps and wattage with my i7-6700k

Thing with a bike is... well I've ridden pedal bikes for 20+ years. And it's pretty hard to accidentally kill someone on a bike.

In a car though... you're far more likely to kill someone else than yourself if you have a lapse of concentration and I don't like that idea...

That's pretty good-hearted of you.

Oddly enough I'd rather expose myself to danger than know I'm exposing other people to danger

not if there's bum holes crossing the street and they dont even check for bikes and you're going max speed so you dont want to waste energy slowing down so you just keep going and plow through them and yell at em

But I guess that's ... unusual

But hey, I'm a cat on a computer. Everything's unusual.

but cat biking is more dangerous for you

yeah well

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere puu.sh/qcdCP/5a4e1e6293.png

thats like me caring about people more than I care about myself

^^ Psychological disorder funny enough

One of these days... It's so much easier and cheaper to hire a car when travelling than a bike :-(

At least in Europe, where people obey laws...

In SE Asia, you can hire a bike for $3 a day with no license or insurance

@cat Bike as in motorcycle? Damn, I rented a bicycle for $10 an HOUR the other day

@Ariane :) want to see mine now? dont you love the 212 evo :D

@Ariane Yeah, but nobody gives a shit in Asia (and they have the highest motorcycle accident rates in the world)

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I wouldn't know what to make of those numbers.

@cat Well damn. Living in SE Asia sounds cheap. Although I bet people earn tiny wages too.

@Ariane Yup!

Ariane your SSD is soo cool though mine's burning

Now if you're a westerner earning western wages and spending it in Asia you live royalty.

is there a fan running near it

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I didn't even know SSDs could heat up.

Nope, none. It's just sitting at the bottom of my case.

yeah mine is hotter than the hard drive

Mine hits 70'c in my enclosure sometimes

Maybe the enclosure is the issue

But that's in a sealed enclosure with multiple drives stacked next to each other, and no ventilation

Why would you do that? :o

yeah no ventilation here either

@Ariane Because that's how it's designed :-(

mine is in a cubby

You can't place your hard drives however you want?

is your ram in dual channel mode

Maybe it is.

I don,t know.

changing my OS to Debian 8 (Jessie) she sounds really really really attractive

could be a guy too

Y'know Jessie is a guys name too

Yes cat I know thats why I said could be a guy too

maybe IM bi

Yeah I have no idea how to check whether my memory is in dual channel mode

get cpuz and check the memory tab

Dual channel is for peasants. My RAM runs in OVER 9000 channel mode

I know I know, when I compliment her she don't believe me

@Ariane Speccy has it in the RAM section

@BenN you need to use the 1337 tools

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Yep, dual.

great

do you use Mark Russinovich and Bryce Cogswell's sysinternals tools?

I don't even know what they are fore.

for.

they are epic things I discovered when I was 13

They can help with pretty much anything you might want to do to your system

For instance?

process explorer is a comprehensive task manager, with it if you ever have a "file is being used error" you can search and find out what program has a lock on that file!

if your program is annoying and you need to close and restart it just open it up, right click the process and hit restart (given you disabled confirm kill)

lets you freeze processes as well so if you ever want to just "pause" a program you can do that

it perfectly displays processes using the process tree they were (the order they were) started in!

Huh. Interesting.

you can graphically identify running processes and whether they were started by services, or by explorer.exe, etc

then comes another program caleld autoruns that lists most of the files processes and such that are loaded when your computer is booting up or when you do other such things

That one is into the task manager already though

if you recently installed a bunch of stuff and want to nuke the useless stuff those programs isntalled to run in teh background just open up autoruns, for example click into the run area (explorer startup entires) AND JUST GO BAM SPACE BAR DOWN ARROW SPACE BAR DOWN ARROW SPACE BAR DOWN ARROW CLOSE YOU'RE DONE YOU NUKED IT

exciting stuff?

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere @Ariane If you use WSCC (kls-soft.com/wscc/downloads.php) it will manage both the SystemInternals tools and the Nirsoft tools for you, keeping both sets of tools up to date.

.... o.o intense

yeah but microsoft sucks Mark and Bryce made these programs when windows xp was out.. microsoft basically stole their idea and still didnt make it as good as thers

OMG DAVID NIRSOFT? YES I USE CPORTSD

I guess, but I don't do that sort of stuff often, so the built-in tools are plenty for what I need, I guess?

@ARIANE HAVE YOU EVER WANTED TO SEE WHATS GOING ON INSIDE OF WINDOWS?! EG WHAT FILES, REGISTRY KEYS AND INTERNET DATAS ARE BEING ACCESS CREATED DESTROYED READ ETC?!

OMG YOU CAN DO THAT WITH process monitor

Not really...?

if a program you run says "error blah bah labh"

you can open process mnitor and filter it to show what that program is doing

Ugh, I use a Mac too much at work. I keep trying to use alt to select words. I don't like Macs D:

Well yes, that sounds occasionally useful

and you can scroll down to the point in time the program made tgaht errr and you can figure out how to work around the roblem

and yeah I use current ports by nirsoft to view active internet connections

And you can do all that at 13?

process explorer shows internet conenctions if you look at a process' thng

@cat no it was over time, but by 15 it was all this

I was removing malware by tracking it with process monitor if it was a complicated infection

ah I love these tools

when I was 12 my cousin showed me msconfig xD

well no I think im lying

I must've been 9 or somethinh

I think I was doing most of that at 13

Im not sure..

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere If you knew enough to remove malware you should have known enough to not get infected in the first place ...

Not bad for a 9 year old

when did I get infected

I did thought sometimes because I didnt learn about mywot and hosts file until I was like 14-15

I was removing it for my online friends and rarely school friends

How do I protect my computer from underflows?

!!foxyes

you can't, I'm everywhere and I cannot be stopped.

I can't beleve for once in my life I picked an interesting screen name... I actually get attetion for it I love it :)

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Thanks

I cant believe this keyboard sucks and requires so much pressure to type screw this Im going back to my old one

no problem @Ariane and to further protect myself from malware I install the MyWOT browser addon because it labels links based on user ratings. And before I download from a website I always check user comments because even if the circle is green sometimes it's actually a bad website for downloading and theres comments to reflect that

I also scan files using virustotal

ever since I stopped using anti virus, I havent had malware on my pc..

Just how suspicious are the sites you visit? I pretty much never encounter malware.

they aren't suspicious it's just when you're searching for something, theres always a bunch of bad sites. without the addon I cant tell which sites are misleading ones and which ones have actual info

let me get an example

can't find a good example but it happens often,especially when I search up strings related to malware, I'll get 90% rogue websites and 10% useful information ones. without the circles I wouldnt know where to click

I see...

welcome back @ThatBrazilianGuy

Hi

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere According to Avast Online Security that site is safe.

so what time is it for you guys? it's 9:50pm here

See the green tick?

yes I know David I looked at the user comments and half of the people said it's safe..

thats why I used a very specific word

"possibly" malicious

I relly couldnt find a better example

Anyways. 3 AM here. Time for snoozes ...

I found that search query that was pure red dots

this time it's pure unknown websites

G'night @DavidPostill

goodnight David thanks for reminding me that this isnt a dating site

@MichaelFrank: One of the things I really like about Final Fantasy IX for Android is that it properly supports all sorts of input devices. Touch, keyboard, mouse, gamepad, all work as you expect them to. Mouse wheel properly scrolls, controller inputs work almost identically to the original PS1 game, keyboard controls are sensibly mapped, and touch controls works surprisingly well.

the 26th link in my search query is green and it's a bleeping computer forum post haha

@bwDraco You actually took the time to test each input?

Yup. All of them work.

On my phone, if I use my USB Type-C to Type-A adapter, even an Xbox 360 Controller works.

@bwDraco That's impressive. I didn't expect a mouse to work on an Android phone without some tweaking. But a controller? I'm very impressed.

@Ariane A mouse works on my stock Android 5 Moto G 1st gen with zero tweaking.

Just an USB-OTG adapter.

Well, Android natively supports XInput these days.

Pretty nice.

You wouldn't know of a way to add RAM to a phone, would ya?