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4:00 PM
@cat Are you saying that the Stackexchange App slows down phones that much?
 
cat
@Mokubai Stackexchange doesn't start with "S "
Now if it was "S Exchange"...
"S Health" "S Note" "S Planner" "S Voice" etc. Note the space after the "S "
 
Ah, missed that subtle distinction
 
cat
"S Note Provider" "S Planner Widget" "S Planner" "Samsung Books" "Samsung Calender SyncAdapter"... ick
"S Sucks"
Just pulled up a factory reset stock Samsung phone for shits and giggles...
As if all this preinstalled shit isn't bad enough, what's the first thing it does, within 2 seconds of me connecting it to the internet for the first time?
 
updates the preinstalled shit?
 
cat
@JourneymanGeek Yup how'd you guess?
I'd barely even finished typing the WiFi password...
 
4:10 PM
lol
 
cat
Now I'm beginning to understand what these reviewers mean when they keep talking about "Samsung bloatware"
While I've always been "Touchwiz isn't that bad??"
 
lol
I'm a firm believer in (nearly) stock android.
 
cat
Oh look, access request? Gallery on my phone wants access to all my Google photos?
No thank you.
Or should I say, S Gallery >_>
I do like a few things about touchwiz though, like those drop down toggles in the notification menu that were there well before they went into stock Android
 
actually samsung isn't bad outside reinventing all the wheels.
My mom's phone has a UI that's a poor apple clone (xiomi)
 
cat
Oh your poor mom :-(
 
4:18 PM
she loves it to bits, oddly enough
she quite literally only uses the phone, camera and whatsapp so...
 
cat
Whatsapp?! :-O
Must be a criminal or terrorist. Watch out.
Them Turks used Whatsapp
 
Bob
uhm
is that coming up as a blank white page for anyone else?
@cat nostalgia!
 
its a blank page
 
Bob
urk
 
@cat erf. There's a family chatroom I almost never go to
 
Bob
4:25 PM
I need that MCT -_-
 
cat
@Bob Works for me
 
@Bob I have a copy
 
cat
@Bob Heh, I downgraded my S4
 
Bob
@cat weird :\
 
cat
@Bob I get a password stealing login page
Am I meant to go past that?
 
Bob
4:28 PM
@cat well, I don't even get that much
 
cat
Eh, signed in, I got the Windows 10 page.
> Get Windows 10
Looking to upgrade this PC?

Qualified Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 devices can upgrade for free.

Click the Upgrade now button to begin the upgrade. Click here for information on qualified editions.
Oh you just want the media creation tooL?
 
cat
Works even in incognito ^^
 
Bob
@cat Thanks
 
Bob
4:29 PM
@cat Yea, I tried Firefox, Chrome, Edge, IE11, and private browsing in all four.
 
cat
@Bob o_0
Maybe the APAC servers are broke?
 
Bob
Sounds like it! Especially if geek can repro
Thanks for the upload @JourneymanGeek but I just grabbed it off cat's link :P
 
Hi!
 
cat
Oh hey Rahul is APAC too
 
Bob
4:32 PM
huh
now my computer has a mix of green and blue glows
 
cat
Wasn't me
 
Bob
lol
 
cat
Oh your new GPU lights?
 
Bob
well, it came with blue
 
APAC?
 
Bob
4:33 PM
then the gpu added green
 
cat
!!wiki apac
 
Apac is a town in Apac District, Northern Uganda. It is the 'chief town' of the district and the district headquarters are located there. The district is named after the town. == Location == Apac is located approximately 115 kilometres (71 mi), by road, south of Gulu, the largest city in Northern Uganda. This location lies approximately 63 kilometres (39 mi), by road, southwest of Lira, the largest town in the sub-region. The coordinates of the town are:1°59'06.0"N, 32°32'06.0"E (Latitude:1.9850; Longitude:32.5350). == Population == The 2002 national census estimated the population of the town...
 
cat
Nope wrong APAC
Asia-Pacific or Asia Pacific (abbreviated as APAC, Asia-Pac, AsPac, APJ, JAPA or JAPAC) is the part of the world in or near the Western Pacific Ocean. The region varies in size depending on which context, but it typically includes much of East Asia, South Asia, Southeast Asia, and Oceania. The term may also include Russia (on the North Pacific) and countries in the Americas which are on the coast of the Eastern Pacific Ocean; the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, for example, includes Canada, Chile, Russia, Mexico, Peru, and the United States. Alternatively, the term sometimes comprises all of...
 
Bob
!!wiki APAC
 
@Bob Works fine here. Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit, Firefox 47.0.1
 
4:34 PM
APAC or Apac may refer to: Apac, a city in Uganda Apac District, the district of Uganda in which the city is located Asia-Pacific, a region on planet Earth Asia, Pacific and Africa Collections, British Library, a documents collection. Asia Pacific Activities Conference, an international schools event. Atlas Performing Arts Center, an arts center in Washington, DC, United States Australia Pacific Airports Corporation, an Australian airports operator. Australian Partnership for Advanced Computing, a computer science organisation. Australian Psychology Accreditation Council, a psychology accreditation...
 
cat
Huh it's case senstivie
 
Bob
@cat Are you on Win7 too?
 
cat
@Bob Nup, 8.1
 
Bob
Oh, still... not 10.
If it only works on non-10, that's weird.
 
Asia Pacific?
@Bob No, that's Microsoft...
 
Bob
4:36 PM
Huh, whaddaya know. It works if I pretend my user agent is from Win7.
Thanks @DavidPostill.
 
@cat so?
 
cat
@Rahul2001 We thought it might be Microsoft's APAC servers were buggered
But noooooo it's stupider than taht
 
I managed to embarrass myself pretty bad in dance class today...
 
If you already are running Windows 10 you can't upgrade to Windows 10. That page says:

Get Windows 10
Looking to upgrade this PC?
Qualified Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 devices can upgrade for free.

Click the Upgrade now button to begin the upgrade. Click here for information on qualified editions.
So not surprising it doesn't do anything for you.
@Rahul2001 Do tell :)
 
Bob
@DavidPostill It's literally the link to "upgrade another device".
Also, showing a blank page is terrible behaviour even if it wasn't supposed to let me download.
 
4:40 PM
@DavidPostill well, I couldn't go for the past four classes, so had no idea what was going on, and just made a fool out of myself...
And there were some pretty hot girls today...
 
Bob
anyway, pinged MS over on twitter
which is also apparently the only support channel that kinda responds
 
@Bob Ah. You followed a link from elsewhere. Agreed it's broken giving you a blank page though ...
 
cat
Lol they have a support channel that responds?
 
Bob
@DavidPostill Elsewhere being their own website
 
Uncle David, got any tips?
 
Bob
4:42 PM
(Actually I got there from Google the first time around, but then dug the same link out of their site to make sure...)
@cat kinda :P
> Welcome to the Windows Assessment and Deployment Kit - Windows 10!
 
@Rahul2001
 
Uncle David, got any tips?
 
Bob
hm
C2D machines did USB boot, yea?
 
“You've gotta dance like there's nobody watching,
Love like you'll never be hurt,
Sing like there's nobody listening,
And live like it's heaven on earth.”

-- William W. Purkey
 
Bob
I don't seem to have any spare CD-Rs -_-
 
cat
4:45 PM
Oh hey, just found four micro-USB cables, an SSD, 8GB of RAM, and a battery cover for my Logitech remote I'd been looking for for years in a draw in my desk
@Bob Mine did?
I had a pre-Core 1 machine that USB-booted
 
@Rahul2001 I can't advise you as I've no idea what kind of dance you're learning/doing.
 
cat
As long as you're not hoping for it to EFI boot >_>
 
Bob
@cat nah :P
oookay. now I need to figure out a way to make this wim bootable. joy.
 
@Rahul2001 And if it's anything else other than what I teach I'm not qualified anyway.
That would be like asking a ballet teacher to teach you break dancing.
 
cat
@Bob Doesn't the MCT do that automagically?
 
Bob
4:49 PM
@cat oh. I have two separate streams going on here
one is a win10 installer via MCT
the other is a bootable copy of Acronis, which is built on WinPE and gives me a wim (or iso)
 
cat
Ah
 
@DavidPostill what do you teach?
 
Bob
looks like MakeWinPEMedia might work
 
Biodanza (neologism from the Greek bio (life) and the Italian danza (dance), literally the dance of life) is a system of self-development that uses music, movement and positive feelings to deepen self-awareness. It seeks to promote the ability to make a holistic link to oneself and one's emotions and to express them. Biodanza also claims to allow one to deepen the bonds with others and nature and to express those feelings congenially. == System of dance movement == Biodanza claims to be a "human integration system of organic renewal, of affective re-education, and of relearning of Life's original...
@Rahul2001
 
cat
I think I'm going to un-repair the spare S4 screen
The glue is still mushy and weak enough I can half pull the screen off with my fingers. Also I want to sand down the case and paint it black
 
Bob
4:55 PM
O_O
why?
oh
that's some shit glue
 
cat
Yeah, apparently this gooeyness is a sign of poor quality LOCA you often get off Ebay
Also my original S4 is working great and feels new so meh.
 
@DavidPostill ooooh...
 
cat
(If you're confused, I had an S4 with a cracked screen, bought a mint condition S4 off ebay with a faulty motherboard and a glass-only replacement kit - stuck my mainboard into the new screen/case, and did the glass-only replacement on the old screen/case.)
 
Wow... wouldn't you just be better buying a new phone?
 
cat
For £50 to get a working >£100 phone in mint condition and all my data still intact? Not really
 
4:58 PM
S4 still over £100? wow.: :/
 
cat
@djsmiley2k £80-120 depending on used/new condition, etc.
 
Bob
@cat o.O
 
cat
The screen glass was like £10, and I could sell it as a £80 phone if I manage to fix it
 
fair enuf
I'm supprised it's kept it's price so muchj
 
cat
5:02 PM
Me too but it's still a decent phone
 
yeah i got one
 
cat
The specs are still better than the 3rd gen Moto G
Barring the smaller screen you'd still get comparable performance to a Moto G4 actually
 
O.o
 
cat
In fact it also matches or beats the Sony Xperia E5
 
Well it was a huge improvement over my S3 at the end of it's life (daughter put it through the wash at about 4 yrs old)
(the phone, my daughter is 2)
 
cat
5:06 PM
And that's just been released with an RRP over £150
@djsmiley2k lol
You had the S3 for 4 years already? o_0
 
Bob
> Hello, Bob. Thanks for reaching out. Kindly send us a DM so that we can provide resolution to your concern.
wat
 
cat
You must have got the S4 very recently then, the S3 was only announced four years one month ago :-o
 
Bob
did they... even read my message?
 
cat
!!wat
 
5:08 PM
hmm hey everyone
 
cat
I feel a craving for meat
I've been veggie for about two weeks now
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Your CPU is using 0.2 watts of power? You must be running a fancy atom!~
 
cat
IOW I've not used my part-veggie "Cheat days" for two weeks
!!powers
 
@cat Your CPU is using 0.2 watts of power? You must be running a fancy atom!~
 
cat
5:09 PM
Bawww
 
do you enjoy my command?
 
cat
I was hoping it was some super smart command that figures out your CPU from your browser headers or something and did some smart calcs on that
 
that would be cool
but we dont get cpu from the user agent.
it would have to maybe execute some javascript but Im not sure if even javascript can do that
 
cat
Blargh 2 weeks to upgrade to W10
 
oh is that when they stop offering it for free
2 weeks to buy an SSD with windows 7 to steal the free upgrade and lock up that SSD for 10 years
 
cat
5:14 PM
Ya
I've got piles of unused SSDs.
 
wow you lucky guy
you lucky kitty*
 
cat
I just need to find my goddamn license keys. I have three copies of Windows entitled to upgrade to W10 Pro
 
cat
And Pro still costs like $100 more than home, so...
 
!!should I be a bad dog ?
 
5:15 PM
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Certainly not
 
I have a windows 7 starter OEM does that get a free upgrade? haha
would anyone like to review my answer for me
!!should I delete my answer?
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere By all means
 
cat
Where the hell are these companies getting copies of £170 software to sell for <£40? o_0
 
i dont know why win10 would cost so much, they seem to be having a hard time giving it away :-) they had to force it on people like malware .
 
!!do you think I should do that
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I expect so
 
Bob
> plpcfgbt
 
cat
@Bob Wat?
 
cat
Ah I have plpbt.img all over the place
@Bob would you know about all these sites offering <£20 copies of W10 Pro?
 
Bob
@cat I bet they're selling MSDN keys...
 
cat
@Bob Ooh that could be it
 
Bob
There's a certain subreddit that does that too
also Kinguin iirc
holy hell
Plop has about the most unreadable font possible
whyyyyyyyyyy
 
cat
lol
 
Bob
5:21 PM
I think my eyeballs melted
 
cat
Ha
 
Bob
:(
it doesn't recognise my brand new winpe flash drive
> We appreciate you notifying us on this. Yes, it's one of the workarounds we've suggested to our customers. Thanks for letting us know.
 
cat
@Bob Heh
 
ha, that's something I haven't seen in a long time
Used to use it on my P3 to boot USB drives
 
cat
I use it in VMs all the time because VMWare doesn't do USB boot -_-
 
Bob
5:30 PM
@cat Guess what I'm doing right now? :P
 
Solidifying your eyes?
 
Bob
ugh
took me a while to figure out that it only works with USB 2.0
 
Why do PCs still come with USB 2.0 ports?
 
is cheap, and 1/2 the things they can plug it doesnt matter. plus there are more than rumors that there is more delay and buffering in usb3 , so a mouse or keyboard might be way better off in a 2
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 Why not?
 
cat
5:40 PM
Better compatibility for basic shit like keyboard and mouse
Windows 7 is still in widespread use and doesn't support USB 3 out of the box
 
@cat USB 3.0 wasn't popular when it came out...
2009, for god's sake...
@Bob Isn't USB 3.0 backwards compatible?
 
USB 3 still is not popular with me
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 So?
 
USB pendrive performace hardly increased.
Driver issues increased
 
cat
@Hennes Mine has
 
5:43 PM
(though granted , driver cleanliness with only USB 3.0 is a good thing)
 
Bob
USB 2.0 is "good enough" for the vast majority of uses.
@Hennes Get better drives :P
 
@Bob Why not just put a USB 3.0 port? not like it uses more space or something...
 
cat
Yeah, what Bob said
 
Old performance was about 25MB/sec on USB 2.
That drive (with the same USB2) interface performs at the same speed.
Fast USB 3 drives topped out at about half that speed
 
@Hennes It has, at least for me...
 
cat
5:44 PM
@Rahul2001 Because you can't install Windows 7 on it
And it costs more
 
Bob
@Rahul2001 Because $$$. Because compatibility. Because physical compatibility.
 
cat
@Hennes My "Fast" USB 3 drives do 400MB/sec
 
fair enough...
 
Bob
I've seen USB 2.0 plugs mess up with the extra USB 3.0 pins.
 
@Rahul2001 No, USB 3 is only compatible with USB3.
There are tricks to also let it do USB2, but then you basically install two parts for one driver
 
cat
5:45 PM
@Bob Physical compatibility isn't a problem unless you get USB-C
 
@Hennes Are you sure? My USB 2.0 flash drives work perfectly when connected to a USB 3.0 port...
 
Bob
@cat In theory, but I've actually seen some USB 2.0 plugs not like the 3.0 ports.
 
Try only installing UISB3 drivers. It will only accept USB3 devices
Same ish with ABS 1 and 2
USB 1 only supported USB1.
USB 2 only supported USB2, but most chipped with USB1 **and** USB 2 hardware.
 
@Bob 0_0
 
If connection is legacy then shift to old chip part
So from a consumer standpoint they did both
From a driver or silicon standpoint they did not
And for USB3 microsoft saw the driver mess and did the right thing'
Thou shalt not include an USB2 companion chip on a USB 3 chip.
 
5:49 PM
@djsmiley2k What do you do?
 
@Rahul2001 He changes nappies :)
 
:P
 
cat
Urgh
Retarded Microsoft Support
2
"To arrange repair you have to speak to one of our agents"
 
@Rahul2001 IT support for a factory
 
cat
"Sorry, answer desk is closed, check the Troubleshooting page or come back during opening hours"
"Opening hours: Sat: 10:00 to 20:00"
Time now: Sat 18:54
!!headdesk
 
@cat Ah. But what timezone? :)
 
@cat Wait, what? Microsoft does support? :P
 
cat
@Rahul2001 No.
 
@cat What are you wanting to repair?
 
6:09 PM
So, any tips on moving into IT given what happened a year ago on June 2?
I just don't have this security mindset needed to keep IT systems safe.
Is IT the wrong place for me to get into?
@cat Has it occurred to you that customer support is very, very expensive to provide? It's easily one of the very biggest OPEXes in larger businesses.
 
cat
> Pakistani 'Kim Kardashian' Qandeel Baloch killed by brother, say reports
@cat Faulty Microsoft Band 2. Broke months ago, never got round to dealing with it.
Common fault, thousands of people have it :-/
 
May 16 at 0:19, by bwDraco
Doubly true for computer manufacturers. With domestic call centers only, the cost of providing tech support could exceed the cost of manufacturing the computers themselves.
@cat Problem at the charging point? My classmate had this issue, too.
 
@bwDraco What happened on June 2?
 
I don't want to bring it up again.
 
cat
Huh, looks like MS US support managed to get me a UK replacement order sorted
 
6:15 PM
I wish we had a private room to talk about this...
 
cat
Whereas MS UK support couldn't even figure out their timezome.
 
Wow. That's dumb.
 
cat
"Microsoft Surface Consumer Returns Germany"
Uh.... OK
 
@bwDraco Oh, ok, sorry...
 
It's very personal to me.
I suppose this is not the best venue to talk about it...
 
cat
I accidentally 93MB of .rar files on June 2.
Shit, wrong link
o_0
Jun 2 '15 at 18:32, by DragonLord
Everyone, be advised that I've been terminated from the company. Please unpin the relevant post from the star wall.
 
Jun 2 '15 at 19:00, by Mokubai
@DragonLord Being too "free" with company information could be a sign of you being easily engineerable. Though I would have thought that they would have said in at least the handbook what you should and should not do WRT "secrets"
Alright. Pandora's box is open, I'll discuss it.
 
cat
> cat
chat user since 2015-05-22
Huh, I don't remember any of this
 
One of the biggest issues I still have is my tendency to share too much information.
I lack a security-focused mindset and would prefer to sacrifice security in favor of convenience.
It's the same reason behind this more recent incident:
Jun 19 at 3:56, by bwDraco
I got myself in big trouble today by intentionally giving a street performer far more money than is necessary (folks were giving $1-3 typical, I put in $20).
 
cat
6:27 PM
Ah turns out that's when I registered on SE, I wasn't actually a chat user till October.
 
The incident ended with a large deduction from my weekly allowance in addition to the $20 that was lost in the transaction.
 
@bwDraco I personally think you should give it another shot
 
I'm really hoping to change this.
 
@bwDraco :D
 
Most people aren't so forthcoming with their issues and aren't so fiercely passionate about fixing their own problems. That's the silver lining.
I've always taken pride in my ability to see what I do wrong and to take self-improvement seriously.
So, how do I take on a security-focused mindset?
 
6:34 PM
@bwDraco That feels more like platinum to me... :D
@bwDraco That is a really good thing... I'm not sure I have that ability, and hope I do/will someday
@bwDraco I'm definitely not a professional, but my two cents:
 
cat
> Dimensions 142.4 x 69.6 x 7.9 mm
Lies!
My phone is 7.86mm at the bottom and 8.03mm at the top! o_0
 
1. Think before you say anything related to work. Anything. What you may think is common knowledge may be interpreted the same way by someone else.
 
@cat That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
cat
!!nothinghappened
 
6:41 PM
!!/nothingtoseehere
 
Like any other user, the chatbot cannot repost the same content several times in a row.
 
Bob
Lol
 
cept when you get a timeout.
and you hit retry
 
Bob
6:42 PM
I'm responsible for that poorly named command :P
 
cat
!!info nothingtoseehere
 
@cat Command poorlynamedcommand does not exist.
@cat Command nothinghappened, created by Bob on Mon, 20 Jan 2014 14:15:11 GMT
@cat Command nothingtoseehere, created by Mokubai on Sat, 03 Oct 2015 18:00:17 GMT
 
cat
Yep, all @Bob's fault.
Though the worst has to be
!!info ihavenoideawhattonamethistaylorswiftcommand
 
@cat Command ihavenoideawhattonamethistaylorswiftcommand, created by qasdfdsaq on Mon, 07 Dec 2015 14:58:20 GMT
 
cat
What a noob, that guy.
!!ihavenoideawhattonamethistaylorswiftcommand
 
@djsmiley2k That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
errrr fail
 
cat
@djsmiley2k What are you trying to do? o_0
 
The auto scrolling is STILL broken here too
well originally one box the image, but I don't really care now :D
 
Bob
Why is someone recording Swift taking photos? From the business end of her camera, too.
 
6:45 PM
One of the changes I've already looked into is fully separate work and personal matters, going so far as to acquire a separate device for work instead of using software to provide separation on the same device.
 
cat
Oh you're trying to share this Tom Biwers image?
@Bob And she's winking at them too!
 
@bwDraco Um... I think it is more in your mind, than on your device. I don't think using a different device would stop me from talking about work...
 
wow you nuked my name completely :O
 
@Rahul2001 I know, and I've already implemented some changes to properly protect work materials.
 
cat
That was deliberate ;)
Ooh, this next holiday of mine is my first ever ATOL protected holiday!
Granted it's not really much to celebrate
 
6:59 PM
Sure, I may be part of this newer generation, but I still firmly believe in the older values.
Feb 26 at 18:40, by bwDraco
I'm not one to let myself suffer from the falling baseline that is modern society. I try to do things the old-fashioned way: meticulous and austere.
 

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