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allquixotic

10:00

Eh. In the mindset of the corporati in the US, you're all "EMEA" (Europe, Middle East and Asia). :P

Burgi

russia is the only "european" country not wholly in europe

qwertyuiop

Some consider Azerbaijan on the European continent, so "In europe"

jokerdino

Say what you want, but it is one of the Asian countries.

Burgi

o.O

qwertyuiop

@allquixotic And everybody the other side of the pond is "Dem yanks" to us

Burgi

10:01

how is cyprus anywhere close to asia?

allquixotic

@qwertyuiop I'm pretty sure Canada would apologetically object

jokerdino

@Burgi have you seen the map?

qwertyuiop

@allquixotic As would the Scots as being called English!

jokerdino

DavidPostill

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Q: Is Cyprus in Europe?

The Wikipedia entry on Cyprus says its location is in Europe. However, The entry on Europe excludes Cyprus. This list of European countries by population excludes Cyprus because it fails to satisfy the requirement that "the majority of the inhabitants live in Europe". Perhaps it would be c...

europe

qwertyuiop

10:02

@jokerdino That's a map of the EU, not Europe.

Sathya

hey folks

qwertyuiop

Would you say Norway is in Asia according to your map.

Journeyman Geek

I always figured the arals and bosphorus were the 'line'

jokerdino

@qwertyuiop that dark green is Cyprus.

qwertyuiop

allquixotic

10:03

Anthem of the Union of Socialist Eurasia - "March of the USE" / "Eurasia Forever"

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jokerdino

Burgi

hmmm....

DavidPostill

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A: Is Cyprus in Europe?

Cyprus' position: Geographically it is considered to be in Asia. Here is the map Tectonically it is on a small separate plate together with most of Turkey, it is separate from Eurasian plate, and doesn't belong to the African plate. Here is the map Politically it is in some sense in Europe sin...

allquixotic

just call it Eurasia and be done with it

Burgi

i concede to @DavidPostill SE link...

jokerdino

10:04

I win.

qwertyuiop

@jokerdino Google > You.

jokerdino

Check any atlas.

> That peninsula points toward Asia Minor, to which Cyprus belongs geologically.

qwertyuiop

What's a continent? o_0

jokerdino

a large land mass

qwertyuiop

So your mom?

I'll get my coat.

Burgi

10:06

i was surprised when i went to the channel islands and discovered they aren't actually part of Britain and as a result i got charged a fortune in roaming charges

Rahul2001

Neat, but who'll go through the trouble of finding the right emoji?

allquixotic

Wow

qwertyuiop

@Burgi And not EU either

Though I think some non-EU countries are voluntarily covered by the "EU roaming caps"

allquixotic

Even among the UK denizens of my youtube feed -- many of them rational, scientific people -- brexit seems to be divided

jokerdino

@Burgi You gonna go back on that, right? It's so much closer to Asia than Europe.

qwertyuiop

10:08

@Rahul2001 Maybe someone is trying to google what an Emoji means?

Burgi

4 mins ago, by Burgi

i concede to @DavidPostill SE link...

qwertyuiop

Middle East

The Middle East (also called the Mid East) is a transcontinental region centered on Western Asia and Egypt. The corresponding adjective is Middle-Eastern and the derived noun is Middle-Easterner. Formerly, the Eurocentric synonym Near East (as opposed to Far East) was commonly used. Arabs, Azeris, Kurds, Persians, and Turks constitute the largest ethnic groups in the region by population, while Armenians, Assyrians, Circassians, Copts, Druze, Greeks, Jews, Maronites, Somalis, and other ethnic and ethno-religious groups form significant minorities. The history of the Middle East dates back to ancient...

"Transcontinental"

jokerdino

@Burgi Good

qwertyuiop

Damn them continents!

Rahul2001

@qwertyuiop You type the 'donut' emoji, it shows results for 'donuts'... Pretty obvious?

qwertyuiop

10:10

@Rahul2001 Maybe they have an emoji keyboard with a donut emoji on it which is easier than deciding whether to type "donut" or "doughnut"

Middle east, I win.

Bob

My keyboard offers emoji as a correction option

jokerdino

yeah, Middle East is in Europe too.

Rahul2001

@Bob lol, which keyboard?

qwertyuiop

My conscience offers Bob as a correction option.

Bob

@Rahul2001 Swype

qwertyuiop

10:12

hexus.net/tech/news/monitors/…

6 June

Huh, how did I miss that

If this thing comes out with a decent black levele and contrast it might just tempt me away from that Dell OLED

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Burgi

is it less heavy?

does it come with airbags?

qwertyuiop

Almost certainly not. OLED is by nature thinner and lighter

Journeyman Geek

@qwertyuiop what interface I wonder, and which cards would support it.

qwertyuiop

Although it depends how much other stuff they tack onto the sides of the panel, OLED panels in themselves can be naturally much lighter than an LCD of comparable size

@JourneymanGeek It says DP 1.3 in the article list but not the article itself

Journeyman Geek

10:16

lol

Since they need no backlight

Burgi

i'm just thinking of your ceiling mount

qwertyuiop

And can also be printed onto a single substrate layer

@Burgi That's already gone

Burgi

was it as bad an idea as it looked?

qwertyuiop

@Burgi It worked fine

Nothing broke or fell during the duration of its use

Oh hey my flight is on an A gate for once

(Usually it's at one of the C gates, which means an unpredictable 5-15 minutes on the underground transit)

Which means I can spend more time reading in the business class lounge that's right above the A gates

Or arguing with you guys, whichever comes easier

Fuck, forgot to sync my Kindle app

Burgi

where are you flying to?

Journeyman Geek

10:20

I suspect one's easier, one's more fun.

qwertyuiop

@Burgi Back home (Crappydeen)

Ah crap, dem feels.

I don't feel like crying in the business class lounge. I suspect I'll avoid reading and offload all my angst onto you guys instead.

Burgi

if you fly into manchester i'll buy you a drink

qwertyuiop

@Burgi I do get connecting flights through Manchester occasionally but I thought you "really didn't like me"

Though in a few months I'll hopefully be flying direct from Edinburgh when I need to go to Helsinki

Journeyman Geek

@qwertyuiop would be faster, wouldn't it?

qwertyuiop

@JourneymanGeek Much.

Saves a good 3-4 hours each way.

Burgi

10:25

shrug you might be different IRL and you sound like you need someone to have a whinge at

qwertyuiop

@Burgi Hah, thanks.

People have always said I seem completely different online than I do in person. When I was younger I was always a lot more sociable online than in person, seems these days it's the opposite.

Journeyman Geek

;p

I'm definately more sociable online than in person.

qwertyuiop

I do tend to be "nicer" in person, but often more reserved and usually only offload emotional bullshit onto my friends online. Unless I'm baked off my head on drugs, in which case I do it in person too.

Note: Kids, don't do drugs.

Journeyman Geek

yeah, nip's a hell of a trip I am told.

qwertyuiop

Ah crap, my gate is right under the other business class lounge, at the opposite end of the airport -_-

Ooh there's some vehicle with flashing blue lights going out to meet a plane

Exciting

Ah in all this excitement I've completely forgotten what time my flight is -_-

Google should really start automatically adding alarms with the calender entries they automatically add for your flights

Journeyman Geek

10:33

They should

Burgi

i'm not judging but.... could the getting baked be a factor in the "serious feels"?

qwertyuiop

@Burgi Yes and no. Yes in the events of the previous weeks. No to today.

Ah man I wish you could have PM's on stack exchange.

Journeyman Geek

@qwertyuiop Its probably never happening

Burgi

sadly

Journeyman Geek

considering some of the mod message replies I have gotten...

naw, its good

qwertyuiop

10:38

I know. It's been asked like 10 million times on meta too

Priority boarding => you get to be first to sit around waiting for everyone to get their ass moving for longer.

Jossie Calderon

@qwertyuiop that was once my password.

Burgi

that is a long password....

DavidPostill

@Burgi Long passwords are good :)

Long random passwords are even better ...

Burgi

yeah, just odd to have that exact phrase as your password

qwertyuiop

Unless he means "Yes and no"

DavidPostill

10:45

@Burgi My guess is that qwertyuiop was the password :)

Burgi

i figured, i was just failing to be funny

Jossie Calderon

"Positional and named parameters accept single arguments or multiple arguments separated by commas. Multiple arguments are allowed only if the parameter accepts a collection such as an array of strings."

So the author is saying that "multiple arguments separated by commas" and "multiple arguments" are two different things, right?

DavidPostill

@Burgi You need more beer :)

Jossie Calderon

i.e. cat test1.txt,test2.txt vs cat test1.txt test2.txt

Burgi

probably

DavidPostill

10:47

@qwertyuiop At least you get first dibs at the overhead locker instead of your hand luggage being somewhere else in the plane where you can't see the contents being removed ...

qwertyuiop

Some Eric Giovani travelling from Miami to Amsterdam appears to be lost somewhere in Heathrow T5

Burgi

are you in the UK now?

qwertyuiop

Yeah.

There's been about five "Final boarding call/your bag is being removed from the plane/get yourself to the gate now" announcements for that guy

Burgi

how long is the flight to scotland? an hour?

Journeyman Geek

Eric Giovani is totally a mobster name

qwertyuiop

10:50

@Burgi 1hr 20 or so IIRC

Burgi

just enough time for them to chuck a kitkat at you

qwertyuiop

Timetable says 1:40 but that's with slack built in

Lol I prefer the mini pretzels

Or pretzel, singular.

I swear every single time I've returned to the UK in recent memory, it was raining.

Or had recently been. Either way ~~my long hard rod~~ the plane I was in got wet upon ~~penetration~~ entering the UK

Jossie Calderon

@qwertyuiop Where in the UK was that?

Burgi

heathrow

DavidPostill

thiefrow

Bob

11:00

thieves rolling

Jossie Calderon

I like how London's city structure is designed with respect to their streets. It looks circular from a bird's eye view.

DavidPostill

Yeah, the M25 is vaguely circular :)

Rahul2001

Apple’s WWDC 2016 keynote in 10 minutes

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DavidPostill

@JossieCalderon I don't recall any actual circular streets in London ...

Rahul2001

Go ahead apple, keep copying...

Jossie Calderon

11:06

@DavidPostill there's a roundabout in there somewhere

DavidPostill

@JossieCalderon Roundabouts aren't streets.

qwertyuiop

@JossieCalderon London Heathrow. 90% of my connections go through there.

I think I got Manchester on a flight to and from Finland last year but that's the only time.

Also reading back through the transcript, suffice to say you guys were not the group I most expected to be concerned about my absence, but thanks.

@Bob Say what?

@JossieCalderon To be honest I haven't been in London for many years. Just the airport.

Jossie Calderon

@DavidPostill that's true, in fact no street is circular

qwertyuiop

Also would you believe the one thing I'm looking forward to most when I get home is getting my nails trimmed -_-

Rahul2001

Can Louis beat the genius bar while wasted off Jagermeister?

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qwertyuiop

11:15

Lmao!

Rahul2001

;p

qwertyuiop

I wonder what altitude 3G WCDMA would be functional to once everyone moves to 4G

Burgi

are you allowed to use your phone on the plane?

qwertyuiop

No but I'm a rebel.

Burgi

what plane is it?

NetworkKingPin

11:17

@Rahul2001 going to have to watch that later!

qwertyuiop

It usually works to about 2000 feet minimum, 5000 if you're lucky. Once got 3 seconds of connectivity at 10,000 feet which is possible if you manage to get an uncontested frequency and all the stars align.

@Burgi Mini snorebus (Airbus A319)

Funny enough one of my friends managed to identify the plane from the above picture

Rahul2001

hehehehehehehe

Popcorn-Time is legal in India

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Burgi

if you plummet out of the sky when your phone overpowers the avionics i'll have a drink on your behalf ;)

qwertyuiop

Funny thing with 3G/4G in the air is that the problem isn't a lack of signal, it's having way too much

@Burgi Seeing as other operators have WiFi and mobile transmitters on the plane itself I highly doubt that will happen.

Burgi

could you use a kite to test the altitude reach of the signal?

qwertyuiop

11:20

It has been proven to be safe to use mobile phones in planes for years. Some airlines just haven't bothered signing a contract with a satellite provider in order to charge users extortionate prices yet.

@Burgi A kite with a 5 mile long string?

Burgi

a balloon then?

qwertyuiop

The signal easily reaches up to the ISS.

Burgi

they have kite power in holland

the gentle bobbing of the kites generates power

qwertyuiop

Last I heard the signal received on earth from the furthest Voyager probe is about the same strength as a mobile phone on the moon.

(Around -146 or -156 dBm)

Burgi

btw did you manage to snap any finnish mobile towers to add to your collection?

qwertyuiop

11:23

A phone can manage to about -140dBm under ideal circumstances. Although we're comparing the signal from a phone to that received by one of the largest radio dishes on earth.

@Burgi Yes, indeed!

I even identified the carriers and antenna models on a few.

Ooh more ambulances (ambulii?) on the tarmac.

DavidPostill

@JossieCalderon There are some crescents though (half circles).

qwertyuiop

Burgi

wasn't it sir christopher wren who wanted to rebuild london like paris?

Rahul2001

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Burgi

wide long avenues

qwertyuiop

11:28

I want to rebuild London without the Londoners.

Rahul2001

lol

djsmiley2k

u guys seen any planes with red nose cones?

like the whole front of hteplane

Burgi

i stood on the wrong side of the esculator on the tube because I didn't know otherwise

qwertyuiop

Or just wipe everyone out and let a completely new/different mix of people move in

@Burgi some stations now make you stand on both sides!

Jedi

Seems like an interesting assignment out of school. You may want to go large (collect more data -- like web domains owned, whois info, do a technical recon)
Ownership and shareholding of companies in India can be looked up using the [MCA's ROC](http://www.mca.gov.in/mcafoportal/checkCompanyName.do)
You could also consider filing an [RTI Application](https://rtionline.gov.in/) to look up FCRA approvals at a state and national level

Burgi

11:30

i left liverpool st station and was nearly killed by a militant cyclist

djsmiley2k

ur doing it wrong

when cyclists crash into me, they fall down

Rahul2001

@Jedi thanks, but there's no time for an RTI, I need to submit it tomorrow :/

DavidPostill

"that decades-old etiquette has been overturned in a new experiment at Holborn station, where staff this morning prevented rush hour commuters from walking up the escalator, insisting that travellers stood on both the left and the right.

The standing-only rule will be in effect during early peak travel for the next three weeks. Somewhat counterintuitively, it’s intended to speed up the process of exiting the station. "

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill i can see why

qwertyuiop

@djsmiley2k I've seen the opposite..

djsmiley2k

11:32

but .... if everyone walked, it'd be a lot faster

@qwertyuiop yeah. like the inverse of that

i was wondering wtf it was, looked like a giant flying missile

Burgi

if london wasn't full of crazy mole people....

its unnatural to have your trams underground

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Not true. When you are walking you only get 1/2 the number of people on the escalator as you are occupying at least 2 steps ...

qwertyuiop

Pretty much every Western capital has an underground mass transit system.

London, Paris, Berlin, Madrid, Rome...

Burgi

all crazy

qwertyuiop

Oslo, Helsinki, Lisbon, New York, Singapore, OK I'm going outside Western capitals but meh

Just cause you Mancunians are jealous you don't have one of your own....

Burgi

11:35

having them on the streets where they can ram into cars is clearly to better option

we have trams!

Journeyman Geek

mancunia isn't the capital of anything

qwertyuiop

Urgh typical shitty London queues. Plane was meant to take off half an hour ago

Journeyman Geek

And ours is partially above ground.

Burgi

its the capital of the north!

qwertyuiop

@JourneymanGeek You never know, it might be one day!

Journeyman Geek

11:36

and if a underground train breaks down, you're in trouble

@Burgi I thought that was winterfell

qwertyuiop

There's been speculation about the north of England wanting independence too if Scotland leaves the UK

@JourneymanGeek I think most/all of them have some above ground sections.

Journeyman Geek

hmm. The people's republic of bristol....

Burgi

everyone in winterfell had mancunian accents....

Journeyman Geek

has a nice ring to it

qwertyuiop

Urgh. Heathrow really needs an extra runway. Or three.

Journeyman Geek

11:37

@qwertyuiop not likely to happen

qwertyuiop

Goddamn Londoners getting in the way of them building one

DavidPostill

Can you name the Largest EU Cities Without Metro Line?

Burgi

they need to move heathrow to bristol

qwertyuiop

Us Scots should have more say about Heathrow airports than those silly Londoners!

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi Not a bad idea actually!

Bristol's airport is small, but they have a ton of space. And a actual concorde!

qwertyuiop

11:39

Londoners already have London ~~Shitty~~ City Airport all to themselves.

Burgi

highspeed train from bristol to london

Jedi

@qwertyuiop @qwertyuiop is that because the north is more trade-reliant? Tyneside seems like a great idea for a separate country..

Burgi

problem solved

Journeyman Geek

@qwertyuiop and gatwick

and..

Burgi

DOUBLE PING

Journeyman Geek

11:39

@Burgi hmm. British rail...

Burgi

no such thing @JourneymanGeek

qwertyuiop

@Burgi Government's been there, rejected that.

Journeyman Geek

Highspeed rail.... is only an hour or two late? ;p

Burgi

exactly

qwertyuiop

Feck I'm so glad Elon Musk has the world hyped on Hyperloop now.

Journeyman Geek

11:40

@Burgi true. I think first ran the trains I took

and it made much more sense to take the bus

qwertyuiop

I was with some industry groups encouraging use of similar technology over a decade ago and the government was like "but that's too newwwwww"

Burgi

ah you are mistaken... you were on a bus replacement service

Journeyman Geek

other than the main bristolian rail station being awesome, the secondary one (which was nearer) being a 70s monstrocity, and the third one... 2 boxes.

Burgi

;)

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi I might remember wrongly

I mostly took the bus - national express (?) or megabus

qwertyuiop

11:42

"Who would be crazy enough to build HS2 with fast, efficient, cheap, and safer futuristic technology when we can waste twice as much money and still be behind most of Europe?"

Journeyman Geek

Hyperloop!

qwertyuiop

That's what really killed maglev the first and second times round. They didn't have the huge publicity and commercial backing that people like Musky can bring.

Burgi

they need to bin HS2 and just start on HS3

Journeyman Geek

yup

qwertyuiop

Wrr

Journeyman Geek

11:45

Does that fly to your neck of the woods?

qwertyuiop

Urgh fuu imgur

That would also appear to be an "actual concorde" just outside my window.

Whoppee, finally onto the runway, only 40 minutes late.

I'm glad I didn't decide to fly in directly on the day of my interview -_-

Wheeeeeeee

Burgi

12:00

why has bootstrap moved from LESS to SASS?

DavidPostill

@Burgi blog.getbootstrap.com/2015/08/19/bootstrap-4-alpha

"Bootstrap now compiles faster than ever thanks to Libsass, and we join an increasingly large community of Sass developers."

Burgi

i must have missed that when i first read that article

ttyl

lunch

Rahul2001

The Perfect Score: Cheating on the SAT

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oh, that's really old

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:39

yup need police involved with the educational system..

/wrist

Rahul2001

I'm back!

Burgi

12:51

i spilled passion fruit all over my car seat :(

Journeyman Geek

13:10

Oh dear

Rahul2001

13:24

I've been wanting to go and cycle for the first day and still haven't been able to 😞

HackToHell

developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/Performance/…

Interesting, new open source compression algorithm

Bob

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Q: Leaving Thailand after months-long overstay (can't pay fine)

I missed my plane after staying just a couple weeks in Thailand and stayed with my girlfriend. I ended up out of money and no ticket home. I keep hearing about staying a day over here, but nothing about a few months over. I never had a visa, because I was only going to stay for a couple weeks. No...

thailand overstaying

> proprietary compression algorithm

that ain't open source

HackToHell

I think they did at wddc

Got it from twitter

Journeyman Geek

@Bob 0_0

tho, that's about 600usd...

Bob

13:59

o.O

massdrop.com/buy/…

Journeyman Geek

14:34

nice

petapixel.com/2016/06/13/swallowed-64gb-microsd-card

0_0

allquixotic

Patrick Stewart sketch: what has the ECHR ever done for us?

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@JourneymanGeek For you:

petapixel.com/2016/06/13/…

> Singapore

Journeyman Geek

lol

My brother kept saying I had to watch that ;p

Bob

@allquixotic what was your 700Mhz band?

allquixotic

@Bob you want the exact frequency, or what it's used for?

Bob

@allquixotic band number, radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/…

Curious :P

Oh apparently 13 phonearena.com/news/…

allquixotic

14:56

@Bob yeah, "B13" is a popular term in Verizon LTE phone specs

in a time recently past, the same frequencies as B13 used to be analog television channels 65-66 :P

wonder what patterns would display on a CRT analog television switched to channel 65 next to an operating LTE device...

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic 0_0

They use the freed up bands already?

Nick

@allquixotic I love his Blunt Talk bit ^_^

@allquixotic We need to get people on this!!

Journeyman Geek

15:20

@Nick heh. the guy who does LGR routinely finds old CRT TVs ;p

(and I think they're still a thing in india?)

bwDraco

15:33

Grades are in. Final graduate GPA is 3.97.

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@allquixotic T-Mobile has band 12, which is directly below band 13 in frequency.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco That's a good score right (max 4.0 in the US edu system?) Congrats.

bwDraco

Yup.

9 A's, 1 A-.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Which subject was the A-?

bwDraco

@DavidPostill Just a moment while I pull up the unofficial transcript...

DavidPostill

The UK is completely different. And these days they manipulate the results so a certain % get the top grade in each exam ...

bwDraco

15:39

@DavidPostill Fundamentals of Wireless Communications

DavidPostill

@bwDraco What will you do next? an MS? or is there something in between?

bwDraco

That's the MS.

I'll be starting a formal job search soon.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Ah. Congrats again.

You will have to change your Userid to bwDraco MS :)

That Brazilian Guy

15:56

So my PC at work has been a Phenom II x2 550 for a few years. A 2009 CPU I've been given in 2012.

Yesterday after the umpteenth freeze for lack of resources I put in a request for a new machine.

They give me a new RAM stick. Meanwhile, secretaries on other departments get i7's.

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