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12:05 AM
@Catija The dividing line is 10^3.75 = 5623 so... you're narrowly on the high side
and yeah, this is just total number of downvotes, so there's a lot of room for smaller numbers of active users to skew things
 
 
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7:56 AM
o/
 
@ElendilTheTall Hi Hon!
 
hey you
 
I don't know if he has posted since becoming blue, but we have another diamond in our midst.
They are handing those out like candy!
 
Cerby!
 
8:09 AM
oh right
 
He's a pro-tem moderator on Latin.
 
ah
pinch me
 
I saw him just now in the moderator chat room. Trying to look like he belongs.
 
fresh meat
 
8:15 AM
so, TFA is approved then?
 
Trifluoroacetic acid?
 
The Force Awakens
 
OH! HA!
 
10 points from Gryffindor
 
Yes, I loved it. I can totally see how some dismiss it as un-original. I agree that a yet bigger and badder Death Star was pushing it.
But, a turncoat Stormtrooper? Hell yeah.
 
8:21 AM
yeah
it was a bit derivative, but it also introduced some great new stuff
it's a scene setter, but a good one
have you seen this?
remind you of anything?
 
And the derivative stuff is also nostalgic.
@ElendilTheTall Hmmm... no?
 
I thought Po Dameron was a great character
he could have a movie to himself
I have a miniature black and orange X-Wing on my desk 8)=
 
TFA brought a whole bunch of us back. That, alone, is quite cool.
It was a passing of the baton.
 
8:26 AM
have you seen the new Star Trek movies?
 
I think I have seen all of them?
 
the reboots, I mean
 
Oh, one, I think.
The first one.
 
they were fun too
same director as TFA
 
I very much liked the camera work as the Stormtroopers descended upon the village.
I also liked Po, and was surprised to learn that his performance is not widely loved.
I had only very vaguely picked up on it, but the actor has said in interviews that Po was attracted to Finn.
Not surprisingly, that was a plus to the viewers of the SFF movie night.
 
8:34 AM
didn't pick up on that at all
:D
 
I adored BB-8. How can we make a droid sweeter than R2-D2? Make him roll!
 
and he's a physical robot too, not CG!
 
I want one!
 
I can't wait to see more of Rey and Finn.
 
8:38 AM
the one thing with Rey is that she is a bit too good at everything
she can fly anything, fix anything, fight like a badass, stand up to a trained Jedi Knight/Sith with a lightsaber on her first try, and use the Force
and that's just in the first movie
 
and she speaks more languages than Cerby!
 
exactly
give her a bit of training and she'll be unstoppable
 
But, I wonder where she comes from. My best guess is that she is Obi's granddaughter.
@ElendilTheTall And I'm guessing that's where they are going next. Super-powerful.
 
Luke's daughter I would think
 
Would Luke let his 9 year old daughter raise herself?
 
8:47 AM
if he thought she'd be safer that way
 
I'm not seeing it. Beyond the question of letting his daughter raise herself, there is the question of when he would have fathered a daughter. By RotJ, he was looking pretty celibate.
 
pfff, nowhere near enough information to make that conclusion
also, he wouldn't let his daughter raise herself, but he's totally fine with letting his mentor's granddaughter do it?
 
You're right, there isn't. Another reason I think what I do is that she used the Jedi mind trick to get the stormtrooper to release her before she had any reason to know of the existence of that magic!
@ElendilTheTall Luke could very well not know that his mentor had a child, or that that child had been killed, leaving Rey an orphan.
 
@Jolenealaska wasn't that after she'd resisted Kylo Ren?
and I think everyone knows about the Jedi and the Force
 
She didn't know. She had heard the myths, that is all.
 
9:00 AM
Not sure how that makes her any less likely to be Luke's daughter than Obi-wan's granddaughter
 
She had reversed Ren's attempt to read her mind by that time, but she had never seen a force-user cause someone to do something.
 
she had seen the fact that she had prevented a force user from reading her mind
 
I see those as very different things. Going on the offensive to get someone out of your head is different from making someone "remove these restraints, leave the cell with the door open and drop your weapon"
 
yeah, but it would give her the inkling
"hey, maybe I can use the Force"
but it any case, why does her using a jedi mind trick make her any more likely to be Obi-Wan's granddaughter than Luke's daughter?
 
Because that was Obi's trick.
He may have taught it to Luke, but "these are not the droids we're looking for" was Obi.
 
9:10 AM
pfff
he absolutely did teach it to Luke
Luke used it in Jabba's palace
there's no reason to think Obi-Wan was special in knowing about Jedi mind tricks
Jabba himself knew about them "He's using an old Jedi mind trick!"
common knowledge
that's where the term 'jedi mind trick' comes from
that line
 
It's going to be a long almost 2 years!
 
and besides
...
lol
have you seen the Rogue One teaser?
 
No, I haven't
 
looks good
 
When does it take place?
 
9:16 AM
main protagonist looks a bit like your standard teen lit Generica Whipsmart female hero that Hollywood seems to love these days, but I'm reserving judgement
before IV - it's about how they stole the plans for the first Death Star
kind of Ocean's Eleven meets Star Wars
with a bit of the Dirty Dozen thrown in
here you go, screenshots so you don't have to use bandwidth
 
She does look a bit... one note.
 
i fear she'll be the standard bad ass girl but oh how she's torn between two guys, one she's known for years, one the new hunk on the scene, Hunger Games kind of thing
 
I have a bit of a prejudice to get over though. I have not seen so much as a minute of any Star Wars action prior to episode IV.
 
good
don't bother
they suck ass
 
9:23 AM
I mean, they are really, really terrible
the dialogue
the acting
jar jar binks
 
I had read enough to think that watching them would taint how I feel about episodes four through six.
 
some lines from the prequels
Careful, your eyes might roll so far back they get stuck
 
Okay, I might be able to forgive the first two. The third causes chaffing.
 
the first movie is mainly taken up with senate hearings on trade agreements, tabled motions, that kind of thing
a total blast
 
The fifth makes me really want vodka.
 
9:27 AM
christ, it makes me want vodka
 
:)
Check this out:
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Q: Marriage in the Star Wars universe

JolenealaskaHas anyone ever been definitively married in Star Wars? Luke's adoptive parents certainly seemed like husband and wife, but did they ever actually refer to each other as such? Having now watched The Force Awakens several times, I can say there is no mention of a past or current marriage between t...

I have two close-votes as duplicates to two different questions.
I'm not seeing it.
 
9:54 AM
 
That is a good one!
 
there aren't many bad ones
 
There are a few I don't get.
 
awww
/pats jojo's head
ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
 
10:01 AM
/bites Tall's arm
 
hey now, this is getting good
:D
 
Get a room!
Oh, no, that would still be public!
Morning, you two!
 
Not necessarily (I have a key)
 
let's go!
 
Right....
 
10:04 AM
:D
 
But Shog peeks
 
See?
Not private. But as we're all grown-ups - to a degree, that should be ok.
So what's new except bad Episode I - III quotes?
 
@Stephie meh, not much
 
I have a bit of an exhibitionist streak anyway.
 
10:09 AM
TTL (Today Tall learned)
 
Learned what?
 
Probably not much!
 
Unlikely.
From what I learned about @ElendilTheTall, he uses every oportunity to fill his mind with whatever trivia he comes across.
 
@Jolenealaska I learned that a long time ago
 
@ElendilTheTall Of this I have no doubt :)
 
10:15 AM
@Stephie how about you
what's new
 
@Stephie If you really don't know about what I made my comment, it was about me copping to having a bit of exhibitionist streak.
 
@Jolenealaska oh that? That's not new.
 
After Rey slams the door on the creature that was running (rolling?) off with Finn, he was all OMG with her about it.
Her next line...
My best guess is, "That was lucky!"
Does that sound right?
 
put the subtitles on?
closed captions
 
@ElendilTheTall nothing. Won't be here long, just took a short break from the usual sisyphus stuff called household. And then finish the short letter telling the school that minor 1 won't attend next week.
 
10:20 AM
"We out yo!"
 
@ElendilTheTall D'oh!
 
Am expecting some bruised egos.
 
@Jolenealaska it's all right, you're probably still thinking in terms of VHS
=)=)=)=ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
8mm?
the Magic Lantern Show?
Guy Running Round a Theatre with a Photo on a Stick?
 
Moritatensänger.
 
gesundheit
 
10:24 AM
"That was lucky" was the correct line. You should have been there the day I had to upgrade to Windows. I was not happy about it. Newfangled Crap!
 
Cantastoria (pronounced [ˌkantaˈstɔːrja]; also spelled cantastorie [ˌkantaˈstɔːrje], canta storia or canta historia) comes from Italian for "story-singer" and is known by many other names around the world. It is a theatrical form where a performer tells or sings a story while gesturing to a series of images. These images can be painted, printed or drawn on any sort of material. == Picture stories in Asia == In 6th-century India, religious tales called saubhikas were performed by traveling storytellers who carried banners painted with images of gods from house to house. Another form called...
 
a minstrel
basically
 
@Jolenealaska I remember...
 
See you later (perhaps), have to go!
 
10:28 AM
o/
@Jolenealaska csc
 
Remember when I mentioned email I had received demanding $2000 for something I had neither ordered nor received? Now I am getting thanked for my payment (see attached receipt)
 
lol
that's great service
 
10:43 AM
Getting a $2000 payment from me is beyond even Rey.
 
You take that back!
 
Nope, even Jedi mind tricks could not make it happen!
 
@Jolenealaska csc
 
11:07 AM
You're killing me! I need to go to bed. CYA tomorrow (hopefully), Sweetie.
 
g'night
 
11:57 AM
@ElendilTheTall Phew, at last someone who thinks Star Wars is silly!
I mean, Star Trek is silly enough already...
 
.... Sacriledge. The 4 movies are awesome.
 
@Cerberus the prequels are silly, the originals are awesome
as is TFA
 
@ElendilTheTall The prequels were proof that lots of money, great actors, and you could still mess up.
 
@ElendilTheTall Err okay.
 
@Cerberus you just like being contrary
 
12:03 PM
Naah.
Star Wars is a bit like a modern fairy tale, isn't it?
 
pretty much
hero on a quest
 
the original trilogy actually followed a fairly classic mythic cycle
"The hero of a thousand faces"
 
12:35 PM
@Cerberus I'm a Sci-Fi mod, and I have no time for Star Wars. You are not alone.
 
you've got time for a 238 book fantasy series, but not a fun set of sci-fi westerns?
pfff
;)
 
Alec Guinness (aka Obi-Wan) thought it was a load of fairy-tale rubbish too.
 
what, an old man born in 1914 thought sci-fi was rubbish? shocker!
 
1:17 PM
@Randal'Thor which amuses me, then I realise I hadn't watched any trek till the reboots
and most of the fantasy I've read is modern stuff, outside some of narnia, and LOTR
 
@JourneymanGeek Does that include WoT by any chance?
 
Not yet
Amusingly, the thing that's making a big dent on my reading time, is needing to restack my bookshelves ;p
 
That's modern fantasy, assuming by "modern" you mean "published recently" rather than "set in modern times" like e.g. Harry Potter.
 
Oh, I consider those urban fantasy, though HP kinda straddles the line
I read a lot of urban fantasy
 
 
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2:33 PM
@Catija Was that your butter picture, or one you found online?
...I guess I know how to answer that question, it's online.
That brand is local-ish and everywhere here, so I saw surprised to see it in your answer!
 
HA HA. I like finding "pretty" pictures.
 
now I'm curious about the butter ;p
granted, most of the 'good' stuff here is european ;p
 
Also the butter on the west coast is shaped wrong :(
Butter is a solid dairy product made by churning fresh or fermented cream or milk, to separate the butterfat from the buttermilk. It is generally used as a spread on plain or toasted bread products and a condiment on cooked vegetables, as well as in cooking, such as baking, sauce making, and pan frying. Butter consists of butterfat, milk proteins and water. Most frequently made from cows' milk, butter can also be manufactured from the milk of other mammals, including sheep, goats, buffalo, and yaks. Salt such as dairy salt, flavorings and preservatives are sometimes added to butter. Rendering butter...
er, that's a link to the right section...
> The dominant shape east of the Rocky Mountains is the Elgin, or Eastern-pack shape, named for a dairy in Elgin, Illinois. The sticks are 121 millimetres (4.8 in) long and 32 millimetres (1.3 in) wide and are typically sold stacked two by two in elongated cube-shaped boxes.
> West of the Rocky Mountains, butter printers standardized on a different shape that is now referred to as the Western-pack shape. These butter sticks are 80 millimetres (3.1 in) long and 38 millimetres (1.5 in) wide and are usually sold with four sticks packed side-by-side in a flat, rectangular box.
 
We get that here, too... but usually in the "European-style" butters. Central Market's branded butter is that shape.
 
so my intuition for 1 tablespoon is all broken now
 
2:41 PM
:( Sorry.
The chubby sticks are definitely more difficult to measure.
 
oh well, I do remember how to use the lines :)
 
I was about to use the lines
totally feel your pain tho ;p
Our old brand used to come in 250g packs, now it comes in 200 gram packs...
 
With each line being narrower, that means that it's easy to err in the volume.
 
tho we switched to another one which is about as good, and half the cost, but that's in giant 1 kg blocks ;p
(having a wholesale baking goods store is <3)
(so, our sense of eyeballing butter is... kinda not too good at the moment)
 
Jay
3:02 PM
@JourneymanGeek just dont get any on your eyeball
 
that would be bad yes
 
Number didja dial?
 
Huy
3:28 PM
@Stephie: if it matters, I have a "fence" in front of my kitchen windows, so I could try to securely attach some pots to it. One kitchen window faces east, the other north and my living room faces east.
@Stephie: but I'm worried about all kinds of bugs, they're everywhere around the house.
 
Hi @Huy! You have a few sun-lovers: Basil, oregano and thyme will thrive in full sun and taste better. Outside usually makes for better / stronger plants, which can handle the occasional aphids. Still typing...
 
Huy
@Stephie: sure, no rush, just wanted to let you know in case it matters for your answer :)
 
3:46 PM
is this the gardening room now?
 
@Jefromi I never knew that — it's curious that one butter format didn't ultimately win out across the nation. It's as if VHS became the standard on one side of the Continental Divide, and Betamax on the other.
 
@Jefromi are you expecting us to stay on topic?
@ElmerCat heh, that sounds pretty dramatic. There are much less compatibility problems from butter size formats.
 
@rumtscho Perhaps, but the content is identical and melts the same way, regardless of which kind of machine you insert the butter into.
 
4:05 PM
Can't we all eyeball a tablespoon of butter? No matter the package?
 
it would be very inaccurate. People are best at judging length, less good at judging area, and pretty bad at judging volume
 
@Jefromi at least it is related to cooking: growing herbs ^_^
 
@Stephie That reminds me...
 
@Jolenealaska of your well-traveled medicinal herbs?
 
I've read that high proof (over 151) alcohol is significantly more efficacious than lower proof alcohol for herbal compound extraction even if the herb is allowed more time to steep in the lower proof alcohol.
:) yes, better traveled than me!
Do you have any idea where to research further?
 
4:17 PM
Ah, 75%.
 
That seems to be about the cutoff...
 
Huy
@Stephie: the "problem" is the fence in front of my east window of the kitchen is very small and also not exactly a kitchen window but a storage room window (storage room directly connected to the kitchen). I can probably still do it but then I'd have to go outside every time I need herbs. the north-ish window however belongs to the kitchen itself. also, wouldn't I have to take a lot of care when it's raining because of overwatering?
 
@rumtscho Well, in the sense of a stick of butter, it is the length that you're eyeballing... particularly if you always buy the same butter.
 
@Catija that's exactly what I meant
 
@Huy your pots / containers need drainage holes, then all's well. But the need sun.
 
4:19 PM
which... coincidentally corresponds to what I can and cannot buy in this state.
 
Huy
@Stephie: there's plenty of sun at my east facing living room windows, just no fence so I can't really put them outside without the risk of them falling down ._.
 
@Jolenealaska huh?
 
151proof is legal, 152 is not
 
@Huy do you rent or own? Would your landlord agree to affix sth.?
@Jolenealaska you're kidding? Why is there a cutoff?
Here, just tax shoots up.
 
I'm speechless trying to answer that. It's bizarre.
 
Huy
4:21 PM
I rent. she probably would if I pay for it myself, but frankly I don't want to "destroy" my view in the living room with some fence in the way.
 
you can always try it wiht the other window
if they grow, great, it has enough sun
if they don't, time to decide between installing a fence in the living room and giving up the "grow your own" idea
@Jolenealaska look on Google scholar, there will be food technology literature aimed at liqueur producers. Maybe also health literature aimed at pharmacologists.
 
@Huy There are a few products that work without screws - time to visit your nearest hardware store ("Baumarkt") or garden centre. Not cheap, iirc.
 
@Stephie So here I am with my gram scale and white powders I measure by the milligram - I even own a bunsen burner, but I can't buy grain alcohol!
 
Huy
@Stephie: what kind of products did you have in mind? any example so I know what to search?
 
@rumtscho I keep forgetting about that!
 
4:28 PM
the problem is to find the right search terms, in principle you would have to name the compound, so :(
"solubility" would be a good one to use somewhere in the query
you might try finding more theoretical literature too
look around for topics associated with Nernst's law
else for the query, "extraction" should be present, because pure solubility is not good enough for your case
 
@rumtscho The Nernst's law query is already helping.
Although, it quickly leads to the kind of math I have successfully avoided for over 30 years. EEK!
 
Huy
@Stephie: the thing is I have a "Mückennetz" in front of my living room windows which I don't really want to remove in the summer ._.
 
@Huy then pick another window ^_^
 
Huy
@Stephie: I don't have other windows ._.
 
4:39 PM
Huh?
 
Huy
@Stephie: the one in the kitchen faces north, the one from the storage room would face east but it would be cumbersome to always walk outside to get the herbs. but maybe the latter still is the most viable option.
 
I agree.
 
Huy
@Stephie: do you think I still have some time before I should place them outside (you said until they have developed the first set or two of true leaves)? like, are we talking 2-3 days, 1-2 weeks or a month?
 
@Huy I'd guestimate two weeks.
Uh-oh. Phone call. Bad news. Seems the ewe's health is deteriorating quickly. Have to break the news to daughter. See you all later, perhaps
 
oh dear
 
4:46 PM
@Stephie Oh! I hope it goes well. Good luck!
 
5:01 PM
Wow. She took the news well. I'd expected tears and arguing, but she even accepted possible euthanasia.
 
She's growing up?
 
Do you have a solid diagnosis?
 
@Jolenealaska vet will be here tomorrow, just got a call that she sort of collapsed and can't get up. Stopped eating, again, no milk. (Both were better after the IV and antibiotics.)
We never could get the diarrhea to really stop.
 
So she improved on antibiotics and then suddenly got worse?
 
Huy
:(
sorry to hear about the bad news
 
5:07 PM
@Jolenealaska yup.
And I learned the hard way that the number of meds for sheep is somewhat limited.
 
loperamide for the diarrhea?
Oh, she's not with you? She's at the vet?
 
@Jolenealaska She's at the stable, but as for what he gave her last time, I'd have to check the paperwork which isn't at my house atm. Not sure about loperamide. I only know that once the digestive system of those with multiple stomachs is really screwed, all bets are off. I have seen the cutest lamb of the world blow up like a balloon. Horrible experience.
But another topic, please! I don't want to drag everyone down. (Me included.)
 
@Stephie So, Canary Seeds — has anyone tried them yet?
 
Huy
@Stephie: I have doubts about the east facing storage room window. Here are two pictures. Don't you think it won't make much of a difference whether I use north or east window the way they are located?
 
Would you eat canary seed? Health Canada says gluten-free grain is safe for humans montrealgazette.com/business/agriculture/…
 
5:22 PM
@Stephie fair enough!
 
@ElmerCat and let our feathered friends starve? ^_^
Buy, why not?
 
Five things to know about canary seed now that Health Canada says you can eat it
 
It's so cute how they spell "percent" in Canada with a space "per cent".
 
@ElmerCat it's impossible to tell the amount of light from pictures, cameras have to even it out
sorry, that one had to go to Huy, not ElmerCat
but you have a great view of the lake :) Which one is it?
 
@Huy honestly, I cann't say. I'd just experiment a bit.
@rumtscho lucky bastard, right? ;-)
 
5:26 PM
@Catija Punctuation is particularly fussy in Quebec, especially in names. They get real upset if you use a dash instead of an endash, or an endash instead of an emdash!
 
@Stephie I'd be more envious if he lives right at the Aare. But to each his own.
 
@ElmerCat <starts googling the differences>
 
@Stephie - – —
 
^_^
 
Huy
@Stephie: we get a lot of bugs and ants in spring and summer. won't those be a problem?
 
5:33 PM
Oh, @Catija and others: re mac & cheese - in many American recipes cheddar is sort of the go-to. What could I use instead? Cheddar is sort of hard to get and then it's often some "artisanal" type.
 
US cheddar is often pretty mild anyway
 
@Huy let me dust off my crystal ball....
 
Huy
@Stephie: i thought maybe you might have some experience ._.
 
Ants are only a problem if they decide to farm aphids. Other bugs is pretty vague.
 
so I'd probably just pick something that melts smoothly with a flavor you like?
 
5:35 PM
@Stephie I frequently use emdashes in lieu of semicolons — in this example it works the same as a semicolon, but I personally prefer how an emdash looks in a sentence.
 
@Stephie Interesting, where do you shop? I've seen cheddar pretty frequently, so unless you have some objections to mass market brands like Kerrygold, it should be available.
 
@rumtscho that's probably the only one I see occasionally.
 
@rumtscho But if there are other higher-quality cheeses available, that aren't mass-produced, there's no reason to choose cheap cheese simply because it claims to be cheddar.
 
If she wants authenticity, there is :)
 
@ElmerCat yet mac and cheese should be a bit bland(-ish), as kiddy food?
But otoh, as mine are not accustomed to that US staple...
 
5:43 PM
you know, that question made me realize that I have never eaten it, so I considered making it too
 
(If they want comfort food, it's pasta bolognese or semolina pudding.)
@rumtscho once, I think..... So yes, that's why I'm asking, too. And because it's fairly simple.
 
@Stephie lots of stuff is simple, I was just amused to see that you probably had the same line of thoughts as I did
 
Oooooh, just remembered my comfort food as a kid.
 
my mung beans are waiting for me, until later!
 
@rumtscho Bye! Good lick!
^^ Freudian typo! "Good luck!"
 
5:50 PM
@Stephie gruyere and bleu! For real! With crisp bacon sprinkled on top!
 
@Stephie Macaroni and cheese was one of the best things my mother made. There was a little store up the street that always had a huge wheel of cheddar cheese — it was wonderful, very flavorful, sharp cheese — and so it made fabulous macaroni and cheese. As kids, we all loved it! Mass-produced cheddar sold in grocery stores was never as good.
So if you have a local cheese available, that melts well and has lots of flavor that your family enjoys, they'll enjoy macaroni and cheese made with it, even if the name of the cheese isn't specifically cheddar. In your neck of the woods, I imagine you have might have cheeses that would be superior to cheddar.
 
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