The Bridge

8:00 PM

mostly just trying to say "hey man, love to try to answer this, but we don't do these questions here. why not come and hang out in our friendly chat?"

Jason Berkan

@agent86 - It's both. Off topic, as it is mentioned as such in the FAQ.

Nick T

@agent86 it's confusing when someone who isn't versed in our politics sees "off topic" on a question like that

Jason Berkan

Not constructive, because it doesn't work with the site.

Bob Cratchit

Heh, I just got a necromancer badge for the MSO memes question! :D

Nick T

@JasonBerkan the "off topic" reason is buried in a line item on the /faq page which I doubt people read very carefully

Jason Berkan

8:04 PM

@NickT True, but when the question is closed as off topic, a link to the FAQ is provided, even if someone doesn't add it in a friendly comment.

agent86

I don't particularly want to drag this out any further. Noted that there's disagreement, advise perhaps not arguing about it in comments, and I'll try to get my terminology right next time.

Powerlord

I would give agent86 a Naughty Winter Gift, but I plan on opening it myself. Plus he doesn't play TF2 any more.

That reminds me, I haven't logged my alt account in to idle this week.

Nick T

@JasonBerkan I'm not even sure why there's a line on the FAQ for that

it's redundant

Jason Berkan

@NickT Do you mean the "Shopping advice and recommendations" line?

Nick T

yes

such questions are verboten anyways because of more general rules (argumentative/subjective)

agent86

8:08 PM

@Powerlord what is a naughty winter gift?

sounds interesting.

Jason Berkan

I thought it existed on most of the SE sites - there was a blog post regarding shopping recommendations being off-topic.

Powerlord

@agent86 er... Naughty Winter Crate.

It's a Mann Co. Crate that takes a special key to open

They also have Nice Winter Crates.

Nick T

@JasonBerkan yes, but it's not because of some arbitrary designation, it's because of a logical step

Wipqozn

@NickT I've always voted to close them as not constructive myself.

Powerlord

The keys for them don't exist yet, and their contents are completely unknown (and likely not in the game yet)

Jason Berkan

8:10 PM

@NickT Probably so the argument regarding them being off topic doesn't take place on every single rec question.

agent86

@Powerlord cool. I hate the whole crate/key system.

Powerlord

Or Valve could be cheap and recycle last year's crate contents, but that seems stupid.

Last year, they gave everyone a free key.

Jason Berkan

So I'm one day away from Fanatic on Gaming - and it's a real Fanatic, not like my fake one on SO that Safari got for me.

Nick T

I was wondering about that...just set up some cron job to visit all the SE sites

Jason Berkan

All thanks to the gaming grants - probably one of the best ideas for site participation.

Nick T

8:15 PM

so retarded

agent86

@Powerlord what did you have to do for the free key?

I'll do almost anything for free stuff.

Nick T

There should be some sort of hourmeter on the site so you can figure out some sort of hourly wage

the music/narration for this is way too intense for the content:

►

Powerlord

@agent86 Log in after the 25th but before the end of the event.

agent86

@Powerlord kay. will do

Powerlord

Basically, it would open either a Festive Winter Crate or Mann Co Crate last year.

badp

8:21 PM

@Powerlord Perhaps they'll give a nice key to people without alts and a naughty key to people with alts.

Given that I've "unlocked" my alt just this week, it would be very timely indeed

Powerlord

@badp Suuuure they will.

Actually, that makes me wonder what they'll do with free accounts.

badp

@Powerlord meh. Why'd you hate on a F2P with an unusual hat? :P

it'd be kind of hilarious (and sad) to see people gifting them a copy of the orange box so that they can trade. :P

Powerlord

@badp Well, no, I meant to prevent them from farming the free keys.

Oh wait, duh, free accounts can't trade items to others.

agent86

hmm, day 20 of 50 (15 streak) for Epic. I don't know why I count every day, seeing as it can only change by +1 at best.

badp

At any rate I'm glad I found out a way to run multiple copies of Steam at the same time without having to pay anybody anything.

(Wine.)

Jason Berkan

8:25 PM

@agent86 pride?

badp

WINEPREFIX=/home/badp/.wine1 wine ~/.wine1/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/steam.exe &
WINEPREFIX=/home/badp/.wine2 wine ~/.wine2/drive_c/Program Files/Steam/steam.exe &

agent86

@JasonBerkan I think it's more I just forget from day to day.

Jason Berkan

@agent86 That's because you're too busy answering questions...

agent86

numbers don't stick in my head well. I have a cell phone and if you asked me what the number was, I couldn't tell you, even though it's been at least a year since I got it.

Nick T

Are the dragons in Skyrim stupid; if they stayed in the air or snatched you up and dropped you from a 1000' couldn't they kill you? Or is there some in-universe explanation why they're pretty harmless?

badp

8:26 PM

@agent86 Numerical keyboards help heaps and bounds with that then

Take a phone with T9 and type in the number you need to memorize

agent86

@NickT during the great Dragoning of the year 485, all dragons were given lobotomies.

@badp my wife's actually got perfect number recall. I just try not to go anywhere where I don't have a computer and she's not there.

one time she memorized a friend's credit card number (and the security code) after glancing at it for a few seconds. freaked him out pretty bad.

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 and that's only with numbers?

badp

@agent86 I'm just saying I have the same problem (and a mother with the same insane number memorizing capabilities btw) and how I kind of overcame it.

agent86

@badp you type it on a phone keypad, and it helps you remember?

badp

@agent86 You type it on a phone keypad and the phone tries to find a word that matches

FallenAngelEyes

8:31 PM

@agent86 but you also probably never type it ever, so that's understandable

badp

536667 ==> LEMONS

to make a bad example

FallenAngelEyes

We have address books in phones now so there's little need to memorize

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes yes. my memory's weird in different ways, I remember things clearly that she does not. I think she's got some form of en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia

yeah, I'm definitely born in the right time frame for my weird memory. I rarely have to remember numbers.

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 Oooh, if she's synaesthetic, that explains stuff

agent86

I went through all of college without taking much in the way of notes

badp

8:31 PM

if you have any practice with T9 you now just need to think you need to type in 'LEMONS' on the pinpad and your fingers will do the rest

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 also I meant if her memorization was only numbers

agent86

@badp that's pretty cool, I'll have to give it a shot. I'm not pro with the T9 layout, but perhaps I could get good at it

@FallenAngelEyes yes, sorry if that was ambiguous. for her it's mostly numbers

badp

@agent86 some pinpads have the letters printed on them too

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 gotcha

badp

and if you get in panic, abc/def/ghi/jkl/mno/pqrs/tuv/wyxz

agent86

8:33 PM

mine is harder to pattern, it tends to be related to things I'm interested in and things that are logically connected

badp

The only problem is this one method falls apart if you have 1's and 0's.

agent86

@badp interesting. I'll have to give it a shot next time I need to remember a number

badp

@NickT It's listed in the FAQ under the area about on- and off-topic questions

mainly because it's the only section we can affect

hence why we close them off-topic.

FallenAngelEyes

@agent86 I still remember tons of numbers from when I was younger, like my best friend's, family's numbers and stuff, but since I don't dial numbers anymore, I don't know them

agent86

@FallenAngelEyes it's hard for me to keep them in my brain long enough to store them long term, but i tend to do OK if it makes it into my long term memory.

I can still remember a few numbers from when I was a child, but I have my office phone number written on the phone, and my cell number's in that phone, etc

Lazers

8:43 PM

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Q: Can I purchase any xbox gold membership card for a family member I don't know which region they're in?

As per the title, my cousin has an unknown region gamertag/account on his xbox (or at least, I'm not sure about it 100%) I want to get him a 12 month gold subscription so he can join me in online gameplay for xmas (reason why I'm not sure) How would I go about verifying the correct region for t...

xbox-360

badp

lol

somebody has just found a cheater's lament

and a vintage blutsauger

FallenAngelEyes

@badp You can find those? I thought they were just given out

badp

also an employee badge

our guess is he hasn't played in months

user20683

A head's up for people doing Steam's daily giveaway contest: store.steampowered.com/app/8870 : Bioshock Infinte can added to your wishlist and by contest rules unreleased games can be won

Stack Exchange

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Q: Using wireless connection will increase my game lattency time?

Today I was playing a online game and the game connection was very poor (the game was "lagged"). So I disconnect the game, turned off my wifi connection and start to use a wired connection, then the game network performance goes ok. Does the wireless phisical ethernet layer affects the game netw...

windows wireless-networking gaming

Rachel

9:05 PM

Awwww someone merged my question, and now I won't get notified of new responses. I don't suppose my question could be the primary question so I get responses, and because it's better written? :)

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Q: How can I start the Blood on the Ice quest?

Possible Duplicate: How do I find the murdered woman in Windhelm? I am currently part of the Stormcloaks and just finished Rescue from Fort Neugard. The Jarl wants to make me a thane and is telling me to buy a house, but his steward is telling me the house is unavailable due to some un...

skyrim xbox-360 quests

agent86

@WorldEngineer cool. on my wishlist it shows up as "unreleased game" instead of bioshock infinite, but probably I won't win anyway, so I'm going to go cry in a corner about that for a bit.

alexanderpas

@WorldEngineer thanks for the heads-up ;)

badp

@WorldEngineer I'm nut sure that includes any recurring fees however.

(if any)

Ronan Forman

Is nut sure more or less sure than bolt sure?

alexanderpas

the amount of views on this one is insane:

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Q: What can I do with Dragon Bones and Scales?

I've started slaying dragons (like all good Dohvakiin must), and with each beastie I down, I'm getting close to 200 lbs of loot, mostly in the form of Dragon Bones and Scales. These two items are high weight, and high value, but I can't seem to find any actual use for them, especially since most ...

skyrim

Wipqozn

9:11 PM

@Rachel considering the other question was asked a few weeks before you, I don't think that would be proper. IF the original question had severe problems, it would be worth considering, but that's not the case here. I don't think it's fair to the asker of the original question for his question to be the one closed, when he asked his question first.

alexanderpas

@Rachel you can star a question to get notified.

Rachel

@Wipqozn I understand that, however his question is simply about a murdered women in Windhelm. Mine contains the actual quest name and some details, in particular the details of my own situation and an exact question. I don't want some generic answer of "its a bug", because the woman is alive on my game and so it's obviously not the bug where I missed the cut scene trigger

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn twitter.com/#!/GuildWars2/status/146332021520728064

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes OSDIFJSPDOJa

dkjl;ASKD;LAJKSD;

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn :D

Ronan Forman

9:18 PM

@Rachel Edit his question to include some of the details if you don't think the current question us detailed enough.

Wipqozn

yeahbutton.com

@Rachel It sounds like your question may not be a duplicate then, if their are some important differences in the situation.

My first character might be a Mesmer then :)

Also, if they are planning to announce the last class, we may be getting ever closer to beta :)

alexanderpas

@Wipqozn Thief and/or Engineer probaly ;)

Wipqozn

@alexanderpas Oh excellent, someone else who is buying at launch I assume?

Rachel

@RonanForman I don't feel right editing his question because I feel my question applies to a specific situation. The generic solutions online do not apply to my situation

Wipqozn

I'm either making a Necromancer , MEsmer, or engineer first.

Rachel

9:23 PM

@Wipqozn I've flagged the post to be un-merged.... dunno if it'll happen or not, but I hope so because I don't want to completly rewrite someone elses post

Wipqozn

@Rachel yeah, it sounds like your question may not be a dup after all. The problem with bug questions is knowing when a few minor details is enough to no longer make it a dupe.

It may be best to just ask @badp about it. He is the one who merged it. I don't believe he has played Skyrim himself, so he may not have realize the differences when he went to merge.

FallenAngelEyes

@alexanderpas Necromancer first for me

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes Minion Master?

Rachel

@Wipqozn I'm not sure how to send a message to someone on SO

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn Curses probably

Wipqozn

9:25 PM

@Rachel I meant just ping him in chat.

FallenAngelEyes

though minioning is pretty easy from what I've seen

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes ah okay

@FallenAngelEyes I love Minion Masters <3

Rachel

@Wipqozn You mean @badp?

Wipqozn

Well, I'll no doubt be making two characters at launch.

@Rachel Yes

user20683

@badp I'm fairly sure it doesn't. It'd be like buying the game. You then have to upkeep it however that's required.

Wipqozn

9:26 PM

I'll probably make one character to play with you @FallenAngelEyes, and another to play solo/with others.

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn they've got turret minions!

like a little stationary one that does ranged attacks

they described 5 diff ones to me at Gamescom

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes Really? That's awesome.

Lazers

0

Q: What is the most historically constrained/accurate mod currently working for Europa Universalis III: Divine Wind?

Magna Mundi is widely regarded as the "most historically accurate" however, to my knowledge they are working on the full game rather than making a mod for EUIII: DW. What other mod out there currently is the most historically accurate/narrative oriented?

mods europa-universalis-3

Ronan Forman

Oh god the apprentice is painful.

Wipqozn

@FallenAngelEyes feel free to go into a bit more detail :)

Rachel

9:30 PM

@badp You recently merged one of my questions with another, however I would like to ask that you reverse the merge. The question was about a specific quest in the game, which is often bugged, however I do not think I have encountered the bug because the details are not the same. You seem to have merged it with a question related to the bug, which is different from my situation.

@badp I also feel like the question you merged mine with is badly written and does not get a lot of responses. I feel my question is better written, and contains more details about my specific situation. I do not wish to rewrite the other question to include details about my situation. The question is gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/41219/…. Thank you.

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn can't atm, in Killing Floor

Powerlord

Snake's Revenge may have kinda sucked as a Metal Gear game, but at least it had good music...

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