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Bob
Bob
15:03
Hm. U2412M ($235) or P2414H ($179)?
hmm
Both IPS...
I'd say M ._.
@JourneymanGeek Crapcom!
I think I might try buy an Alienware 13
unless you need HDMI
Even though it's butt ugly and chunky as fuck
@Bob that's a pretty tough choice ._.
more pixels vs better connectivity
Bob
Bob
15:09
@JourneymanGeek Wait what? o.O
Oh. I use DVI.
The U2414H may not have any DVI ports
its essentially got the same array of ports my P2715Q (and its smaller brother) do
@Bob ^
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Looking at the P2414H. Not U2414H.
17 mins ago, by Bob
Hm. U2412M ($235) or P2414H ($179)?
It has DVI.
The U2412M... yea. That's a problem.
Well, I'd just need a cable... pretty sure the video card has DP.
Does Dell include a cable?
yup
mini -> standard IIRC
Bob
Bob
That solves that! :P
Though who knows with the refurbished ones... shrug
which is actually a sensible thing if your monitor has one mini dp and one standard DP inputs
else, you know where to buy one ;p
Bob
Bob
15:23
Anyway... seems like the only real difference for me would be 1920x1200 vs 1920x1080.
Bob
Bob
The U2412M is supposed to have a higher colour gamut, but that wouldn't make too much difference to me.
I'd go for the extra vertical pixels personally
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek But also an extra $56
Bob
Bob
15:24
Hm. Decisions.
Bob
Bob
By the time I make a decision they'll probably be gone anyway :P
Bob
Bob
And I'd kinda prefer to wait for the "as new" ones over actual refurbished units. Usually ~$10 price difference, if that.
I edited my post, is there anyone who can check it plz?
Bob
Bob
15:25
Ok. Back to waiting.
lol
3 days to my new monitor :)
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Thing is, I've got a perfectly good monitor already... sooo while IPS is shiny and all it's not all that high a priority.
Is there any moderator here?
Bob
Bob
Even though I've been checking the Dell outlet now and then for the last few months.
15:27
@Bob funny thing is I had 2 perfectly good monitors before my dell...
both seemed to have commited sepakku
Bob
Bob
lol... I half hope mine would do the same just so I have an excuse to upgrade.
@JohnyNassar Moderators have blue names, like @Mokubai
(I do think they are repairable, just need to see if the guy who fixes TVs in tanjong pagar fixes monitors too)
@DavidPostill: He'd like to get a question reopened. That can be handled in the queue.
I already voted to reopen ;)
@Bob the crossover has a wierd featureset...
like I can add a pair of crosshairs...
Bob
Bob
15:30
@JourneymanGeek oh, fairly typical (if somewhat useless) 'gaming' feature
@DavidPostill thanks
Bob
Bob
...why is Amazon suggesting cake pans?!
First time trying to fix Windows in a long time, everything is different :(
Is it appropriate to ask for help in here?
Actually its odd. I thought the darned thing usually had stripped down features.
@fredley kiiinda
15:31
@JourneymanGeek I'm having this problem, but the cause is different
tho if its something non trivial, we'll tell you to ask on the site.
explorer.exe is crashing at login and I'm stumped
Bob
Bob
@fredley We can provide some suggestions, but you probably won't find much step-by-step handholding.
@Bob k
Bob
Bob
I got tired of repeating the most basic instructions -_-
15:31
@fredley happened with my brother's laptop
@JourneymanGeek No new programs or anything, just started going to black screen after login one day
Bob
Bob
@fredley Hm. I swear someone else had the same problem in here a day or two ago.
Was on just one account tho, so I created a new account, moved stuff over and deleted the old one
@Bob was me ;p
Bob
Bob
Oh.
Hardly anything installed on it, and it's happening on both accountss
How do you get to the user control panel from a run prompt?
15:32
@fredley You try safe mode?
@DavidPostill yup, didn't fix
Bob
Bob
@fredley control userpasswords2 if that still works. or lusrmgr.msc. or netplwiz.cpl
It's a Dell XPS laptop with Chrome, VLC and that's about it.
Bob
Bob
@fredley I'm assuming you've rebooted several times since?
@Bob oh yah
Bob
Bob
15:34
Because that could be a bad thing in this case :P
Oh :(
Ok trying a new user acct
Bob
Bob
@fredley I was hoping the 'last known good configuration' could help.
Oh, oh! Have you tried system restore?
@Bob Not yet
Bob
Bob
I'm not sure if that backs up per-user registry hives though.
._.
those have a backup somewhere no?
or is that just system hives?
Bob
Bob
15:36
@JourneymanGeek The system ones are definitely (partially) backed up multiple times.
It's flashing 'Lots of great features to get excited about' at me, and seems to be stuck on that
oh, that takes a while
its just distracting you.
Bob
Bob
System restore contains several copies. Last known good configuration contains a last-good-boot copy of the control sets.
> Getting everything ready for you
@DavidPostill How many reopen vote would be enough to reopen my question?
15:37
@Bob And explorer.exe not starting counts as a bad boot right?
Because it booted to the login screen fine
Bob
Bob
@fredley No - it seems to actually save on successful shutdown..?
@Bob Oh, does a reboot from task manager count as that?
Bob
Bob
Probably, yes.
But I'm not certain if LKGC contains the user hives anyway.
Been getting everything ready for me for ages now
oooh ooh just a few more tweaks
Why does this take so long?!
@JohnyNassar 5, I think.
15:39
@fredley Noooo idea
'We'll be ready soon' - Idon'tbelieveyou.jpg
it does tho
especially on spinning rust
@JourneymanGeek Nope, all solid state here
oh, then MS is just ineffcient at something ;p
O(n!)
15:42
@DavidPostill Did you think that my edited post will be opened?
and.. to zzz with me
8 mins ago, by fredley
'We'll be ready soon' - Idon'tbelieveyou.jpg
Soon™
Should I give up yet?
Let's start!
With a black screen!!!
-.-
Trying to open appwiz.cpl: Class not registered
fml
Opening eventvwr: System.OutOfMemoryException
wat
15:58
@JohnyNassar I voted to reopen, I cannot tell what other voters will do.
And system restore is turned off.
Guess it's time to reinstall Windows!
Bob
Bob
@fredley ...wut.
@Bob ikr
Checked in Task manager, using 1.3/4
Disguised youtube spam: superuser.com/questions/1012533/…, user promoting howtotipstutorials.blogspot.com
Weird thing is, I can open chrome (via the run prompt, and only with admin privs), and from Chrome open the Open dialog
The inability to open appwiz is kind of a killer
Bob
Bob
16:04
@fredley You could probably do everything in PowerShell if you really wanted :P
From within the Open dialog in Chrome I can actually copy files and backup the disk
This is ridic
Bob
Bob
56
Q: How can I uninstall an application using PowerShell?

Rob PatersonIs there a simple way to hook into the standard 'Add or Remove Programs' functionality using PowerShell to uninstall an existing application? Or to check if the application is installed?

@Bob I've never used it, *nix user here
Is powershell installed by default?
Bob
Bob
@fredley Yes.
It's basically a cross between cmd, bash and .NET.
cool, I'll try that
@Bob D:
Bob
Bob
16:05
lol
can it grep?
Bob
Bob
@fredley It's powerful. The syntax is just a bit funky.
I'll remove VLC and see what that does, it's the only thing using shell extensions, which is my only real lead on this issue
Bob
Bob
@fredley Has al ot of aliases for typical *nix commands. Stuff like ls, cat, etc. But not grep. It has equivalent commands.
-match works on the pipeline
@Bob Life without grep is not worth living
Bob
Bob
16:07
The PowerShell pipe deals with objects, not text.
Makes grep less useful, but Where-Object (shorthand ?) very very powerful.
And actually better than grep :P
Lies
:P
How do I launch powershell from run then?
OMG CLIPPY
Bob
Bob
@fredley powershell
ls | ?{ $_.Name -match '.*\.txt' }
:D
That is the best room easter egg ever
How do I insert coin?
Bob
Bob
ls | ?{ $_.CreationTime -lt '2014-01-01' -and $_.Name -match 'blah'}
This is fun.
Anyway, you can use the snippet fromthe SO answer above to uninstall a program.
(and that was probably a bad example since ls [actually Get-ChildItem aliased] supports -Filter anyway...)
Is PS insisde my prompt?
Bob
Bob
16:17
@fredley ?
@Bob It is. Confused when it didn't open another window
Can't find VLC :(
Bob
Bob
@fredley Oh. It's console-mode.
@fredley Just run Get-WmiObject -Class Win32_Product and manually look through it?
Does this thing tab-complete?
Bob
Bob
@fredley Uhm... some things. Bit differently from bash.
:(
VLC not listed as installed
wut
Bob
Bob
16:19
@fredley Also, the command above was for programs installed with Windows Installer (MSI)
The shell extensions were still loaded in the Chrome Open dialog though
Bob
Bob
VLC probably uses its own installer.
pls to have Package Manager
Bob
Bob
@fredley This is a case where Windows already provides a package manager (if not a repo) but VLC decided to roll their own instead :P
@fredley You can list all other uninstallers. Gimme a sec to check the command.
gci HKLM:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
wait that's incomplete for 32-bit programs on 64-bit systems
gci HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall,HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
@fredley ^
I think reinstalling Windows is going to be less effort
Bob
Bob
16:25
@fredley eh, up to you.
Now how the hell to boot into recovery
Bob
Bob
gci HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall,HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall | %{ gp $_.pspath } | ?{ $_.DisplayName -match 'vlc' }
That should find VLC.
And UninstallString defaults to C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\uninstall.exe anyway. Or my one did.
So then you just run that :P
Unsure if VLC is even the problem
Could be Dropbox too?
Is there any way to debug what's actually causing explorer to crash?
Bob
Bob
@fredley If you wanna hook up a debugger, you could but it'd probably be a pain.
Or you can snoop around the logs and hope it logged something useful.
I can't open the logs
Unless they're stored in a file somewhere? Is that too much to ask?
Bob
Bob
16:31
20
Q: Where/how does Windows store the data in the event logs?

Ron TuffinWe run some financial systems that log error messages to the system logs. I need to find out if we can clean these error messages from a PCI DSS point of view. I am specificaly interested in the answer for: Windows 2000 Server and Windows 2003 SP1

Actions => Open Saved Log to load them
I was searching on my Windows 7 laptop to try new fonts, I changed the font in:

`control panel > Fonts`

Now the titles of webpages and the menu when I right click the mouse are too small.

I searched for a solution but I didn't find a real one.

I tried to restore default font sizes using:

`Control panel > Fonts > Font settings -> Restore default font settings`

but unfortunately nothing changed.
Bob
Bob
You... "changed the font". wut.
That's not how fonts work.
Or, more accurately, you can't change which font is used from the font repository, unless you're deleting them.
The actual used font settings are application-specific and determined by the application in question.
The system itself provides options for configuring fonts in system menus, etc, but applications can still decide their own fonts.
@Bob I don't have an uninstall.exe
Bob
Bob
10 mins ago, by Bob
gci HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall,HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall | %{ gp $_.pspath } | ?{ $_.DisplayName -match 'vlc' }
Run that.
See what UninstallString in the output is.
This is too much to type
Bob
Bob
16:40
@fredley The paths can autocomplete if you want. But it's only two lines of text.
Or chuck it on gist and wget it if you must.
@Bob Sorry, also I changed display in Control panel > Personalization > Display to 125% and I return it to 100%. Start menu and desktop icons font size returned to the default size but options of the right click and webpages titles are still in a small size.
ok, vlc and dropbox removed
I don't think this will work though
If it's a driver, how could I find out which one?
Nope, no luck
Bob
Bob
@fredley Binary search? :\
@Bob Why some of these returned to default and others no?
Bob
Bob
Though if safe mode failed, then that's unlikely - unless said driver added itself to the safe mode list.
In any case, I'm going to sleep now. Good luck.
16:45
gah, no cd -
can't cope
Bob
Bob
@JohnyNassar You need to figure out what you actually changed first. And you need to make sure you restart after restoring.
@fredley pushd popd
@fredley are you switching to mpv.io?
@Bob Can't restore
@tereško no
I'm trying to get a Windows computer to work
It's taking all day
reinstall :P
Bob
Bob
@fredley was talking to the other guy
16:48
@Bob I'm not sure what I changed first but I'm sure that this is strange because some returned to default while others don't.
Any one can help me plz?
@JohnyNassar Goto Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Personalization: Select the theme again that you want. It should restore all font/colors/...
You still never told us how you changed the fonts. Hint: It isn't from control panel > Fonts
@DavidPostill I'm here at this moment because I forgot how I changed the font. Really annoying problem :(
Can the display provide this problem??
17:15
> Windows setup could not reinitialize the deployment engine
For [EXPLETIVE] sake!
Microsoft is making me lose the will to live
@JohnyNassar Goto Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Personalization: Select the theme again that you want. It should restore all font/colors/...
Have you tried that yet?
@JohnyNassar Install Ubuntu, you'll save yourself frustration in the long-term
only if you have prior knowledge about managing linux systems
otherwise it will "work" till something fucks up (and it always does with ubuntu's updates) and then your bright-eyed newbie will be forced to reinstall, because ubuntu dumped him/her in black'n'white console and the newbie was scared
bottom line: ubuntu is what you use when you don't want to learn anything new (even is you really should)
17:38
@tereško I wouldn't seriously recommend Ubuntu to anyone as a primary OS tbh
Just frustrated atm
Reinstall went ok, restoring from backup...
windows administrator guide: minor problem - restart; major problem - reinstall
18:04
@DavidPostill yes, I tried. I chose a picture as theme, nothing changed.
18:15
@fredley @tereško Ubuntu for idiots :)
18:27
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19:22
@JohnyNassar I would how with "for lazy" instead.
because it usually have to sets of users: newbies who install ubuntu because they want to brag to their friends at school and professionals who just need something quickly installed and don't have time or patience to mess with the setup
hahahaha 100% and for people who have nothing to do in their life
19:38
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4 hours later…
23:38
morning
meeeeeh
I actually still run ubuntu for my web/application servers since its easier to find third party repos
Evening ;) Very quiet around here.
lol
Seems to be.
Evening
Quiet in the MMOs I usually play too
Meanwhile I'm still fighting with Windows 10
Lots of that going on yesterday
Also turns out you cannot use a Windows 7/8/8.1 key directly to activate Windows 10, at least not one that hasn't been used on the same machine before
23:52
I've not tried that yet
Also Windows 10 is now become so dumbed down you cannot choose what version to install, so you can't actually install the right one :-/
lol
I've not had that issue with half a dozen updates
Have you tried installing Pro on a machine that came with Home?
Seems like SU's answer to this is pull out the hard drive, install a previous version of Windows, upgrade to 10, pull out the hard drive again, then install 10 again.
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A: Unable to activate windows 10

dioporco(for future reference) if you like me are in the following situation: Clean setup (or upgraded from 7/8) windows 10 home and have a fully activated OS, used it for a while (installed your applications etc) and in the need of an upgrade to windows 10 pro using a windows 7/8 pro license key (don't...

Nope
I check first ;p
Check what?
So yeah, "Swap your hard drive and reinstall 3 times" seems to be the current answer to how to do the equivalent of "Pick the Pro option in setup" of previous Windows.
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