The Nineteenth Byte

aditsu

00:00

one… more… byte…

El'endia Starman

My commit messages are actually meaningful. :P

phase

My commit messages are usually "I have no idea what I am doing"

2

github.com/phase/o/commit/…

SuperJedi224

So it's done finding chunks

Doorknob

/me is very proud of my commit messages here :P

SuperJedi224

Now it says "Finding visible tiles- 15%"

TheDoctor

00:03

@El'endiaStarman why does you avatar look like a crazy Sonic horse humping an impossible triangle in space?

El'endia Starman

@TheDoctor Because you have a dirty mind.

phase

@Doorknob My messages would be like that if I added features to my projects that weren't just reverting terrible code.

anOKsquirrel

@El'endiaStarman I only read one operator and I'm already confused ajfjgkaj4jgksjkgj

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman What is your avatar?

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ @TheDoctor got the "impossible triangle in space" part right. It's a recolor of Sonic (i.e., it's El'endia) in a transformation pose. Like going Super Sonic.

@anOKsquirrel Huh?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:06

@El'endiaStarman Ohhh. Cool! What's "El'endia"? I assumed that it was your name o_o

anOKsquirrel

@El'endiaStarman minkolang is very confusing

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ It's a pseudonym (fake name) that I've used on the internet for many years, so I do consider it "my name".

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman Oh, I see.

anOKsquirrel

Cool!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ very

El'endia Starman

00:07

It's not my legal name though, but was constructed from it.

anOKsquirrel

is Starman your real lastname?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Eleazar/Eleanor Asendia?

Doorknob

A Google search for "El'endia" results in only you. :P

El'endia Starman

Literally, do a Google search for "El'endia Starman" and almost everything you find will be mine.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ ninja'd

El'endia Starman

00:07

I know! Isn't that awesome?!? :D

anOKsquirrel

wow nice!

do the same for me, only SO stuff.

And search for "an ok squirrel" and...

ughh

El'endia Starman

@anOKsquirrel That's not a response I've gotten before. What's confusing about it?

aditsu

yay, 100 ^_^ @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

anOKsquirrel

The whole language :P

I don't know, my mind broke yesterday so I wouldn't be able to tell

OH MY YES

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu ._. lol

and hooray!

anOKsquirrel

00:09

searching for "an-OK-squirrel" and the first thing you get is the shipit emoji :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

WTF ^ ?

anOKsquirrel

Wow.

undergroundmonorail

neopoints aren't that hard to get

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

DOUBLE WTF

@undergroundmonorail I don't even play that game. o_o

anOKsquirrel

prntscr.com/8zirey

El'endia Starman

00:11

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I'm pretty sure all the blog posts there are copies of PPCG questions.

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman apparently they are

El'endia Starman

No, nevermind.

aditsu

oh crap, I might have a small bug or two

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman phews Okay. That makes me feel less stalked

^ or not.

El'endia Starman

The ones that have Conor as an author are.

Doorknob

00:12

/author/c-ob

phase

@aditsu ship it as a feature

Doorknob

it's just a Reddit/SE/etc. scraper topnok.com

El'endia Starman

yeah

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob And lol I killed their auto generator

anOKsquirrel

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ how so?

Doorknob

00:13

:D

@anOKsquirrel it doesn't like Unicode (apparently)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@anOKsquirrel cob are the printable characters in my username

anOKsquirrel

lol nice

derp cool

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

And lol @Doorknob

anOKsquirrel

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What text editor do you use?

Doorknob

there is one correct answer

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:15

@anOKsquirrel For coding? Notepad++.

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Doorknob

that is not the correct answer :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

For official documents? Overleaf.

For quick crap documents? MS word.

anOKsquirrel

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ shame on you use sublime

Doorknob

that is also incorrect

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ For HTML/CSS/JS, same.

phase

00:15

sublime is gross, atom is OSS and has more features

anOKsquirrel

What is?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@anOKsquirrel Look. NPP works. I'm used to it. I'm not going to change.

El'endia Starman

For Python, IDLE.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

@phase OSS?

anOKsquirrel

oh so slow

phase

00:16

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Open Source Software

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

anOKsquirrel

no, oh so slow

Doorknob

none of you are real programmers. You need to use butterflies

anOKsquirrel

:P

And needles

anyways, gtg bye

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob yes!

BYE @anOKsquirrel !!!

phase

00:17

I use Microsoft Word to code my programs

El'endia Starman

^ AUGH.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

El'endia Starman

Oh look, the side-voter is here.

Seadrus

screw you guys. I use WordPad and Notepad.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^

trichoplax

00:18

@phase Is there a language where bold, italic and font size are relevant?

Seadrus

@trichoplax that's going to be my programming language, then.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ make it

phase

@trichoplax I don't know if you can even detect that in files

El'endia Starman

@phase ...well, of course you can.

phase

a language that runs solely on Microsoft Word documents

El'endia Starman

00:18

How else would MS Word know what's been bolded?

Doorknob

how else would it... be displayed in bold? O_o

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^

Doorknob

ninja'd again

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

and ^^^

Seadrus

@phase or this

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:19

^

phase

Doorknob

@phase is that... D?

phase

@Doorknob yup, my new favorite language :D

Doorknob

\o/

I wanted to try D once but I never got farther than Hello World

phase

it is sooooo fun github.com/flower/fvm

I can never code C again knowing that D exists

Doorknob

00:21

introduces @phase to E

is that even a thing? It's probably a thing

El'endia Starman

Next up: F!

Doorknob

E (programming language)

E is an object-oriented programming language for secure distributed computing, created by Mark S. Miller, Dan Bornstein, and others at Electric Communities in 1997. E is mainly descended from the concurrent language Joule and from Original-E, a set of extensions to Java for secure distributed programming. E combines message-based computation with Java-like syntax. A concurrency model based on event loops and promises ensures that deadlock can never occur. == Philosophy == The entire language is designed with secure computing in mind; this is accomplished chiefly by strict adherence to the object...

feersum

You skipped C#!

Doorknob

wrong link...

phase

@Doorknob I saw E. It's not as fun as D

Doorknob

00:22

so there's C, C#, D, E...

phase

blog.jadonfowler.xyz/2015/07/15/one-letter-languages.html

Doorknob

@phase your very own O is on there! :P

wait that's you

I'm an idiot

4

El'endia Starman

^ I wonder if that'll ever get up to 20 stars...

Doorknob

>.<

phase

@El'endiaStarman what will?

El'endia Starman

00:25

@phase The most-starred message ever in this chat is @quartata saying "I'm an idiot".

With 21 stars so far, I think.

Recently passed the previous record too.

Thomas Kwa

I wanna invent a language called G-flat or something

phase

G_

feersum

]There's already F# though!

El'endia Starman

@phase Gb, more like.

But I like that.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I want to make a programming language named ` `. (It's a space.)

El'endia Starman

00:27

Good luck trying to search for it.

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ contact github to see if they will allow a repo like that

El'endia Starman

Or just try it!

Actually, come to think of it, a single space would probably NOT work on the command line...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I did.

phase

@El'endiaStarman google.com/#q=%20

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman sure it would, if you escapedit

El'endia Starman

00:28

Ahh, true.

Doorknob

llama@llama:~$ touch \
llama@llama:~$ ls
     code       downloads  misc   passwords.kdb  programs  stuff.txt
bin  documents  games      music  pictures       school    videos

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

space programming repo

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ LIES! That's a dash. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

OH NOES

WHYYYY GITHUB

phase

call it %20

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:29

whyyy.... shrivels

Doorknob

haha

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠ_ಠ

Doorknob

you could call it U+0020

El'endia Starman

hahahaha

Doorknob

(if +s are allowed...)

El'endia Starman

00:31

Are `\` allowed?

Doorknob

or you could try a zero-width space! Although that'll probably just become a dash. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Doorknob

rofl

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Everything is allowed, but is ~~redacted~~ replaced with -s

Maybe that's what I should call my lang.

phase

s--

aditsu

00:42

I lost 15 bytes T_T

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu I feel no empathy for you XD

^ jk, that sucks.

aditsu

that division by 0 rule is nasty

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

"Suppress quietly"?

aditsu

not just suppress, but halt the program

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wait really

That is nasty.

aditsu

00:44

AIUI

phase

4/0 obviously equals 12

3

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

So 4 = 0

phase

wut no

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

(fixed)

aditsu

4/0 == Alex

2

btw, I used pi to deal with the division by 0 (seriously)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

00:46

@aditsu Either ಠ_ಠ or \o/, I'm not sure which...

phase

Somehow my loop is going through 3 if statements and printing a test line with no value left to compare with.

aditsu

I use it as a marker

Seadrus

@aditsu you are my kind of programmer

side-votes

anOKsquirrel

Back

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Welcome back @anOKsquirrel

anOKsquirrel

00:57

Thanks :P

chicken

ௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌௌ

Nope, also displays as "-"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ᴏ_ᴏ

LOL

anOKsquirrel

What else?

I wonder if you could trick the API into doing it

aditsu

down to 112... and it's getting really unreadable (for a CJam program) :p

anOKsquirrel

I should make one

In...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ᴀɴᴅ ʟᴏʟ I ᴀᴍ ᴏғ ᴛʜᴇ ʙᴇsᴛ ᴇxᴀᴍᴘʟᴇs ᴏɴ ᴛʜᴇ ɪɴᴛᴇʀɴᴇᴛ, ᴀᴄᴄᴏʀᴅɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ sᴄʀɪᴘᴛsᴄᴏᴏᴘ

anOKsquirrel

01:05

chicken

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu ∀p ∈ P[p ⊆ CJam* => p is unreadable]

New Main Posts

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Q: Reverse and Invert a String

Reverse and Invert a String Challenge In this challenge. You'll be writing a program which will output or return the input, reversed and inverted. First, each character should be converted to it's character code. Then, that should be converted to base-2. Following, that string should be revers...

code-golf

anOKsquirrel

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ yes, you do

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@anOKsquirrel In response to the comment? yeah.

anOKsquirrel

yeah.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:17

I've added STDERR !

anOKsquirrel

nice!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

thanks :)

anOKsquirrel

@aditsu In CJam, how do you get the ascii of a char?

aditsu

@anOKsquirrel i

anOKsquirrel

cool thanks

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:27

lol the sandbox is down for me

anOKsquirrel

I'm sorry I'm really dumb, but why is Š two bytes? Is it not ASCII?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

It is ASCII, and I don't know why it's 2 bytes. It pisses me off.

anOKsquirrel

Oh because I was using utf-8

in ANSI it's 1 byte

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@anOKsquirrel And you switched to???

ANSI, thank you!

anOKsquirrel

Does that count tho?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:31

I dunno.

@Doorknob Is ANSI a valid encoding?

feersum

It's OK if you can put your source code in an ANSI-encoded file and run it successfully.

anOKsquirrel

yes thank you!

Doorknob

I'm pretty sure "ANSI" is not an encoding

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ o_o @anOKsquirrel

SuperJedi224

ANSII?

anOKsquirrel

01:33

Is it not?

prntscr.com/8zjf1b o rly

Doorknob

you'll have to figure out whatever Windows means by that. Probably something like CP1252.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Why?

El'endia Starman

> Windows-1252, sometimes incorrectly called "ANSI" or "ASCII".

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Why what?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob Why would one have to figure that it? It's what it's called colloquially.

Doorknob

01:35

there is no such encoding as "ANSI"

El'endia Starman

> Even though Windows-1252 was the first and by far most popular code page named so in Microsoft Windows parlance, the code page has never been an ANSI standard. Microsoft explains, "The term ANSI as used to signify Windows code pages is a historical reference, but is nowadays a misnomer that continues to persist in the Windows community."

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

anOKsquirrel

I'm an idiot

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

We're all idiots.

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Alex A.

Speak for yourself. :P

El'endia Starman

01:36

^ :P

Alex A.

(I say, also being an idiot...)

anOKsquirrel

DANGIT DENNIS NOW YOU TOOK PYTH

Guess it's time to use...

golfscript?

Or maybe carrot

SuperJedi224

It's rendering now! 2850 out of 70112, approximately.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Premises: We're (people of PPCG) all idiots; we are smarter than the average person. Conclusion: We're relative geniuses.

2

@SuperJedi224 Hooray!

What's rendering? ._.

SuperJedi224

For I-don't-remember-what-reason, I decided to run a mapper utility on the world containing my solar system model.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:40

o_o huh

SuperJedi224

Or what I have of it, at least.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

That's cool!

Seadrus

for the record, the stereotype that programmers are incapable of live/love is total bullshit

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

anOKsquirrel

^

Seadrus

01:41

oops, meant love.

^^"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

still ^

anOKsquirrel

prntscr.com/8zjh3k Not much, but output!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@anOKsquirrel And I'm glad I'm not the only one who uses lightshot. Out of curiosity are you a gamer?

anOKsquirrel

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Yes, no, kindof

Not a PC gamer, yet

I am building a PC soon

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@anOKsquirrel Oic.

O_O Good luck with that

aditsu

01:43

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no, the correct conclusion is that the average person is mindbogglingly stupid

anOKsquirrel

seems like an xkcd comic

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu Certainly, it's another conclusion.

Alex A.

@aditsu Am average person, can confirm

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anOKsquirrel

Yep, xkcd.com/1386

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^^ o-o

alex-is-wrong

anOKsquirrel

01:44

I'm good with finding xkcd comics :P

Alex A.

You and Martin should have an xkcd finding contest.

3

anOKsquirrel

We should!

aditsu

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ your conclusion doesn't really use the first premise

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@aditsu Rhetorical effect.

And besides, your conclusion doesn't necessarily have to utilize all given premises.

SuperJedi224

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:47

That comic looks familiar....

aditsu

probably because it was posted in here before :p

anOKsquirrel

:p

SuperJedi224

I don't think I've posted that page here before

I've posted other Irregular Webcomic! pages here though

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I think you might have. But it's still funny.

2

anOKsquirrel

prntscr.com/8zjj8g

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:51

^ notepad++?

anOKsquirrel

Nope, sublime

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Huh.

NPP has had that glitch recently, too

Doorknob

pshh, you and your non-butterfly editors...

Alex A.

Butterfly?

aditsu

xkcd reference :p

anOKsquirrel

01:51

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

xkcd.com/378

Doorknob

Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Ugh, ninja'd

SuperJedi224

I usually just use standard Notepad

anOKsquirrel

haha you got ninjad

Doorknob

01:52

argh

double-ninja'd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

But @Doorknob has a better one

anOKsquirrel

But he edited

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

So... reverse double edit ninja'd

Doorknob

haha

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

RDEN.

That's a thing now.

anOKsquirrel

01:52

There, now he got ninjad

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

You've been R3EN'd.

Doorknob

@anOKsquirrel yours is tiny and has no hovertext :/

anOKsquirrel

wat

dangit

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Doorknob

wat

Alex A.

01:53

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_O

aditsu

SuperJedi224

...

Doorknob

wut

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

hwæt

aditsu

01:55

watt

El'endia Starman

Ah, ! won't work with straightforward xkcd links.

You have to link the image itself.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

aditsu

carrot

s/xkcd/website/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

s/website/wobsite/g

El'endia Starman

Hello beautiful nautilus shell!

BrainSteel

01:57

:D Hello yourself!

El'endia Starman

:D

Doorknob

@El'endiaStarman no you don't!

xkcd oneboxes

aditsu

depends if you use "!"

Doorknob

no it doesn't...

BrainSteel

@PeterTaylor I took a crack at clarifying my sandbox post. Let me know what you think if you like!

Doorknob

01:58

! is only for images

Seadrus

everybody's beautiful okay

El'endia Starman

Right, yes. But Conor was trying to do !http://xkcd.com/378, which doesn't work.

Doorknob

of course not

anOKsquirrel

gtg bye

Doorknob

xkcd is not an image

aditsu

01:58

@Doorknob exactly, that's what we were talking about

El'endia Starman

seeya!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

BYE @ANOKSQUIRREL!

anOKsquirrel

cya

BrainSteel

We have a sideways blue triangle now? :) @Seadrus

Alex A.

The sidevoter

Seadrus

01:59

oh yeah hiya @BrainSteel

Geobits

Yea, he's a total ripoff.

Seadrus

naw, imma the original

Geobits

Yea, I'm gonna dispute that :P

Doorknob

BrainSteel

I like my downvotes like I like my wine. Authentic and cheap.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

01:59

Alex A.

@Seadrus "imma" usually means "I'm going to." So, "Naw, I'm going to the original."

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

almost makes sense as a program

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