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07:43
> Customs can search through your hard drives based on nothing more than a hunch. “Must protect the children! Child pornography,” they say. “Must protect the economy! Industrial espionage,” they say. “TERRORISTS,” they shriek. But, behind all this hyperbole, they offer no explanation as to why a terrorist would literally walk their digital contraband across the border rather than send it via the Internet from the convenience of their cave in Pakistan (or wherever “the enemy” hides these days).
I lolled reading that
@LucasKauffman Hey, industrial espionage is a genuine reason for customs to search hard drives.
@Gilles you're the worst spy ever if that's your exfil plan
@LucasKauffman woosh
(it's the customs that are carrying out the espionage!)
:o
mind blown
Hey, why isn't xkcd oneboxed?
well, it is now
08:07
@LucasKauffman is it bad that I can't find any info on that one on bbc news site...
there is the old stuff from last year, but it's vanished
@RoryAlsop only got published Sunday, lse.co.uk/…
ouhouou internet's back! Morning all!
@Gilles they are too focused on that election thingy that we had to have last week :-)
(thanks for the link)
@LucasKauffman Basically the jsutification to any an all freedom-restricting laws these days
09:07
Whoever downvoted the picture of Carl on meta is going to be violently murdered and probably will have his hands eaten.
@LucasKauffman lol
09:52
@AviD You are a coffee nut. This seems interesting: wacaco.com
10:22
@TerryChia no, @RoryAlsop is the coffee nut. I like good coffee.
speaking of which, my coffee guy just got a whole new selection of new beans. so excited!
@AviD I have joined the coffee club here - my floor's coffee dude is from Napoli and is incredibly enthusiastic about coffee
@TerryChia that does look cute, though. seems like a take off on the awesome aeropress, with some mobility thrown in.
He is aware that whatever he does will get drowned out by the vanilla syrup I will pour in but he hopes to convert me
@RoryAlsop hahah
@AviD I'd like it if I could drink an espresso, as then I'd be able to instantly remove over 1200 calories from my daily intake (vanilla latte's are bad for the figure, mmkay)
10:26
heh, that site is really amusing. the Oatmeal guy does a lot of bits for them... en.ilovecoffee.jp
@AviD Hey - at least I admit I just love the caffeine
@RoryAlsop needs more burlap sacks.
@LucasKauffman Sorry, but it's lacking properly roasted faces.
11:00
@CodesInChaos and burlap sacks.
Nothing says "delicious" like a burlap sack.
@AviD IIRC it's run by his significant other
@RоryMcCune sounds about right
11:13
@RoryAlsop You need an IV
@M'vy quite possibly
@AviD the first post inforgraphic is kinda misleading on the cups. There are more cups for women, but they drink less. Then you read. Then you see there are little and big cups
@M'vy initialization vector....?
@M'vy uhh
@TerryChia how is it better than an aero press?
Does it have a heating element?
derp, the "big" cups signify a whole cup, the "little cups" are a .1 cup....
11:17
@AviD yep
@LucasKauffman it looks more self-contained and mobile. also supposedly a "true" espresso,,,
@M'vy so you were trolling?
@AviD and 4 little cups takes the volume of a big one (approx.)
@M'vy hahaha lol I really hope you're trolling now....
@AviD No, it's a remark on what my brain processed
ahhh I see.
11:18
I see the images, think "oh women drinks more coffee" then read the number and WTF?
actually, I think there is a correlation there that IS a causation - according to that, most women drink from e.g. starbucks. Perhaps that is why they dont drink more....
Then "oh wait... little cup"
@M'vy ah now I get what you were saying.
@AviD the question is: are "cups" normalised to a single unit
I like Starbucks because there often found next to shell gas stations in the Netherlands, so when I'm traveling there I can at least get a half decent cup of coffee
11:20
@M'vy I'd imagine so, with the delta of type of coffee
e.g. an espresso, while less in volume than say a latte, would likely count the same
@AviD ah yeah, this too
@Avid that's why I tAke two espresso shots in my latte
@LucasKauffman It's... smaller I guess.
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11:24
@TerryChia TWSS
it's been far too long since someone said that in here
@RоryMcCune Hehe.
Mission accomplished then.
@AviD hey hey you know scrubs clips are banned right up there with College Humor!
@RоryMcCune true, but I've never respected the CH ban either
I'm kinda shameful that way
This avid going #yolo
11:28
@AviD that's true
BTW @LucasKauffman @AviD @Adi we still on to meet up next week? if so any thoughts on time/place?
I haven't received confirmation for my engagement in the Netherlands yet, good you remind me!
@RоryMcCune ah, found the one I was looking for. And since I'm already in violation....
@RоryMcCune yeah baby
I have no clue
are we talking wed nite, pre-conf drinks?
can just float along with the rest of the crowd....
@RоryMcCune @Adi what hotels are best cheapest / closest?
@AviD yeah wed night might work. My flight gets in at 16:00 to Amsterdam, so I should be sorted by drink-o'clock
@RоryMcCune I'll be there from sunday nite....
not yet sure what time though
@AviD what're you training people on BTW?
11:34
@RоryMcCune hash
heh
@AviD :op
I just got it, the guy told me not to do too much hash while there....
@RоryMcCune .net secure coding
Just called my director, they cancelled the engagement so might not make it :( depending on the timing I might be able to drive there tho
@LucasKauffman boooo for cancelled assignments
@LucasKauffman you decided not to go just because I can't make it? That's terrible :-)
11:38
@RoryAlsop I didn't even know you were going :P
@RoryAlsop oo you're coming too??
@RoryAlsop see if you were going I could be like "client meeting"
no, sadly that's the point :-(
There's a good sushi place in Amsterdam though, all tho I'm not sure if Avi can eat that
@AviD - click on the Dirty Mouth version (NSFW):
11:44
@RoryAlsop heh. vanilla milkshake, eh?
no - mine is forgivable, apparently
Cafe au lait is basically coffee with milk
as in a dash of milk
A lot of milk where there is more milk than coffee is a latte
> Questionable. Keep your guard up. Vanilla is forgivable, but any other flavour is an insult to the coffee bean and all its gifts to us
CAFÉ AU LAIT
@Simon TWAT
11:51
pls, today is one of those mornings.
Adi
Adi
@AviD @RоryM A lot of places in Amsterdam. What we can do is meet in the venue for the talks, and after that we catch up outside and just go somewhere
When are you guys landing in NL?
Adi
Adi
@Simon I'll be there around on the 19th
Awesome, I'm envious.
I'm flying out on the 20th back on the 23rd..
12:01
17th till 21st at night
yeah I'm missing the last day :-(
dont have my flight details yet, hope its late enough to at least enjoy the wed nite boat ride
@AviD you'll miss the opportunity to heckle me :op
@RоryMcCune I know :-(
meh, I'll pre-heckle you at somebody else's talk
well you'll all need to give your heckle's to @Adi and he can deliver them
@Adi what you doing for the whole day wednesday?
@RоryMcCune "But Mr. McCune, wouldn't you say that all these kits are really hipsterish?"
Adi
Adi
@AviD Probably somewhere near the German borders
12:03
drops mike
Adi
Adi
I'll be visiting some friends
ah fun fun
Adi
Adi
@AviD but why 17th?
@AviD "indeed they are very hipsterish, so hipsterish in fact that only this guy (shows slide with your picture) likes them all " :op
@Adi I'm there for training the whole week
Adi
Adi
12:05
@AviD OWASP training?
@RоryMcCune hahah well played, Mr. McCune, well played.
@Adi no, client.
Adi
Adi
Ooooh
I guess the four of us will probably catch up on the 21st
@RоryMcCune "are you saying that, now that these are all becoming cool, you DON'T like them anymore?"
@Adi oh, @Kisunminttu is coming too?
Adi
Adi
@AviD Nope. I was thinking you, me, Rory, and Lucas
wait @RоryMcCune is @Marion coming?
@Adi ah right, thought @LucasKauffman said he wont make it
Adi
Adi
12:07
@AviD I think he's gonna
maybe we should get @ThomasPornin to mail @Simon over in a box
I'd be messed up all the time because I'd end up in nightclubs until morning.
NL is the land of electronic music!
@AviD nah unfortunately not, our garage conversion is still on going, so she needs to stay to keep an eye on it
@Simon that IS messed up.
@RоryMcCune sorry to hear that
What did we do to kalinuh anyway?
12:11
hey hey, does she have any old surface gear she is looking to place in a warm loving home?
@AviD yeah it's a bummer but the garage conversion will be nice when it's done :)
@AviD heh well she is thinking of getting shot of her surface pro 2 now she has the surface 3 on the way
does she still have her fairy wings? ;-)
wat
@AviD heh, I'll check..
@Simon my better half as a , not entirely unjustified, reputation for giving people tablets
OH, hahaha.
12:14
it used to be Nexus' but that was before she got religion on that subject
@RоryMcCune hehe "got religion"
@Adi did you notice the guy's look of shock when she said that? aghast, but trying to not call attention to it
Adi
Adi
@AviD But don't let that fool you. I'll show you something else :D
12:31
@Adi dont eat yellow snow
at least thats not racist
Look at my WinForms, my WinForms are amazing
Give it a lick, woo! It tastes just like #window.
12:48
dammit @Adi, see what you've done now, you've gone and broke @Simon.
all pls I'm just trying to survive on this fine (shitty) rainy Monday morning.
I did some sort of indoor surf on Saturday at that place:
My body is still messed up.
When you fall, you get launched to the outer space.
13:13
@Simon ARE YOU SERIOUS??
@Simon DOES @ElonMusk KNOW??
@Simon COULD SAVE HIM BILLIONS
@Simon YOU SHOULD TELL HIM
Yeah, turns out the secret to saving billions is hidden somewhere in Laval, Québec.
@Simon HE WILL PROBABLY SHARE THE SAVINGS WITH YOU
Good guy Elon.
@ScottPack Packy!
Packy sack <3
13:26
@Simon that's brilliant - I'd do it just for the launching
@RoryAlsop Yeah. Water flows at 40 km/h.
that's actually where I learnt to surf properly
Munich
raz
raz
@Simon They're supposedly building an indoor sky diving facility somewhere nearby. I won't jump out of a plane, but I'll hover a few feet off the ground!
@RoryAlsop That's pretty damn cool!
@raz Yeah, we've got one of those here too. I should definitely try it out.
Despite me growing up very near the European surf capital (Thurso) I had to wait until I worked in a city hundreds of miles from the sea to learn to surf on a river fed straight from glaciers in the Alps - freezing!
raz
raz
13:33
@Simon It's like $60US for an hour. Each time in the air simulator is about the time of 1.5 jumps.
Not bad really
Also seriously, why don't we have the new profile?! Super User has it
@raz I've done the wind tunnel thing in Vegas which was kind of like that
raz
raz
Reverse Engineering BETA has it! Come on now!
@RoryAlsop I feel like I'd be a surfer if I'd live in SoCal or something.
raz
raz
@RоryMcCune Was it cool? Or just kind of lame?
@raz Ya that's pretty damn good. Also, you get to not die if things go bad.
13:34
it was kinda cool, though hard to learn to control yourself in the time you get
the instructors were all v.good at it
which I guess you'd expect :)
raz
raz
@RоryMcCune Yeah I was wondering about that
Yeah, instructors always make you feel like you suck.
raz
raz
I feel like I'd eff it up and hurt myself
@raz in the vegas one you're guided the whole time and it's padded, so pretty difficult to smeg up too badly...
I would be awesome at that
@raz it looks like some yoga would help control that
raz
raz
@AviD Yoga... never done yoga
@RоryMcCune Is it synchronized with reddit?
@Simon looks realtime
Pretty neat.
13:49
and counts down in the tab as well
Ya that's great.
so you can watch out the corner of your eye
@raz it works.
speaking of... time to go.
no wait, its in another hour.
raz
raz
@RоryMcCune I don't get it
@raz it's a stats site for www.reddit.com/r/thebutton
13:51
@RоryMcCune wow - I cannot get that to display on any of the browsers available to me here. That said, I agree with raz - I can't understand what people get out of it - is it like a tamagotchi for adults?
it's a reddit April fools joke that seems to have gotten out of hand a bit...
raz
raz
@RоryMcCune Oh, I don't really do redit
hi there
Watcha'
@RoryAlsop it's like a game of virtual keepy-uppy with cheevos that's been played by close on 1 million people for over a month :)
hoi
raz
raz
13:54
What's up @SteveDL
@RоryMcCune yeah, but why - surely the only useful cheevos are the sub-8 second ones, so why would anyone click earlier? (yeah, I know I clicked - I was browsing the code...)
@RoryAlsop lack of patience I guess :) initially I think people wanted to have the lowest score, but collectively you can't rely on everyone else playing to leave the button alone
IIRC it didn't get below 10 seconds for aaaages
@RоryMcCune I thought reddit WAS an April fools joke that got out of hand
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@raz alright thanks. you?
Anyone else following this? securityweek.com/…
13:57
@RoryAlsop i clicked the button because i saw a button and i like trial and error discover of interfaces. and then I read the instructions and understood the whole point of the thing.
@Iszi heard about it, cant say I'm "following" it.
Which is why I shouldn't be let near military installations
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@AviD Well, I guess I'm not either. Still, interesting.
@Iszi "oh come now, security is not like life and death, surely"
@Iszi cant say I'm surprised, but then I'm a cynical git.
perhaps this will bring positive attention to the issues, where all the recent mega-hacks have not.
@AviD I like how they note an attacker could use the WiFi key to get access to all the similar pumps on the network, but completely omit the fact that there's probably a gajillion other similarly-weak devices on the same network that do plenty of other more scary things.
@AviD A theoretical compromise bringing attention where actual compromises haven't? What are you smoking?
14:00
@Iszi yeah. and not just the devices either, if you think about it.
@AviD Yeah, who wants to bet the network isn't air-gapped?
e.g. a medical records system accessible by unauthorized personnel is not just about loss of privacy, if he can change medical history, allergy to drugs, or medicinal requirements....
@Iszi I think breach/vuln fatigue is setting in for most business/IT execs
they've seen that people get breached and life goes on for that company
there is no long term impact on share price
@Iszi airgapped?? I've seen medical tracking systems on the internet. what I said, was not hypothetical.
@RоryMcCune and stock prices rise
so it's just a weigh up of "security cost" against "percentage guess of breach * cost of breach cleanup"
14:03
@RоryMcCune yeah exactly. I was thinking that maaaaybe "life and death, for realsies" might shake people up a bit.
@AviD cough cough SCADA cough
@RоryMcCune hehehehe, very true.
I dunno, maybe that is too abstract. I mean, state of scada insecurity has been nothing new a decade ago, and yet so many security people were getting excited about it just last year....
@AviD You mean, like "I can pwn your insulin pump from 50 feet away?" - 'cause it's not like we didn't hear about that one years ago, right?
@Iszi pump pwner
they missed a chance to name the vulnerability "pwnpump"
14:18
2015-05-11: I kind of like .NET.
@Simon you need to go back and respond to every statement you made praising PHP, with that comment.
I have now confirmed that common bad coding practices are common in any language.
seriously, if it werent for NDA, I would be posting most of this 4GL crap to TDWTF.
and that is even besides 4GL itself, and allowing for 80's style of bad coding.
@AviD Link to a single instance where I've "praised" PHP, please.
@Simon it's ok, not everyone's perfect </troll>
all
pls
simply saying "PHP" without derision is equivalent to praise.
14:31
Jul 2 '14 at 16:47, by Simon
PHP is a FUCKING piece of shit.
Mar 21 '14 at 3:22, by Simon
PHP 4 lyfe
Jul 19 '13 at 1:37, by Simon
So, time for some PHP.
Jul 13 '13 at 1:50, by Simon
I'm building a web application from scratch in PHP
Jul 2 '14 at 13:55, by Simon
Personally, I think that PHP has revolutionized programming.
Jul 13 '13 at 1:49, by Simon
@TildalWave Are you proud that I decided to stick to PHP?
@RоryMcCune good one
Apr 7 at 19:39, by Simon
Code in a cool, new language: PHP.
@Simon shall we continue?
Jun 29 '13 at 15:37, by Simon
Lol at Python. My poor PHP, why do they hate it so much?
14:33
God damn it, I hate all of you. Sarcasm quoted out of context makes me look like a damn donut.
Jun 20 '13 at 18:56, by Simon
I miss PHP even though @Adnan hates it.
@Simon quoting anything you say makes you look like a damn donut.
pls
Jul 30 '13 at 18:06, by Simon
So, I can love PHP forever and it will be alright?
lol @RоryMcCune this was fun! we should do it again sometime...
@AviD lol
14:34
Jul 30 '13 at 18:15, by Simon
@Adnan One day, we're gonna rule the world with PHP.
That's a good one.
hahahah
Even @Simon wants to get in on the #simon-bashing.
pls, it's so obvious that I was sarcastic.
Good times.
@AviD @RоryMcCune I'm surprised you didnt add this one ^ to your pins story.
pls all
I wonder if @Simon sets his php interpreter to parse extensions *.pls
14:42
heheh
actually he wrote a dynamically mutating macro such that "pls" is the command.
pls is ALWAYS the command.
/usr/bin/pls --all
maybe pls is a symlink to reboot...
get annoyed at pc... pls all... boom. Turned off and on again. All problems fixed.
@Rhino Nah, I don't develop on Windows.
@Simon You should try it. cmd.exe should be a rite of passage for programmers. To be strong, you must master your fear. And a useless shell.
@SteveDL Yes, the almighty donut attack.
14:53
@SteveDL one thing you might want to do is add a bit on SVG XSS - e.g. owasp.org/images/0/03/…
@Simon is that what causes unsuspecting engineers to like .NET?
@Simon eww we dont want to hear about your weird canadian sex life.
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@SteveDL no, that is only the cause of strong intellect and good taste.
@Rhino I'm not ready yet, this would consume too much of my energy.
@SteveDL size constraints. You probably don't want me specifying a huge image file as my avatar.
@Rhino or a huge donut
14:55
@SteveDL It could, yes. I'm sure anybody who gets free donuts wouldn't mind to do some .NET
@AviD Yes. Anything over 0.7Simons could force the server to spend a long time downloading stuff. Do that a few times and...
@RoryAlsop thanks that link's really cool!
while true; do
wget https://yourwebsite.com/donut.jpg
done
COME ON
I HATE SE FORMATTING
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