English Language Learners

12:00 PM

"...that the popular sausage - known as a "dachshund" or "little-dog" sausage - was created in the late 1600's by Johann Georghehner"

so, the origin was in germany. so the translator made a big impact on 'dogs' :P

now i'm starving

MARamezani

@JudeNiroshan German people aren't as boring as Thai people. :P

Hiding from @DamkerngT.

Still, he's a robot, not people

We have some German dudes in chemistry, and they rule as chemistry gods, and they're awesome.

Jude Niroshan

nods for your fact about chemistry

they are ruining the modern chemistry world

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani I heard that. :-)

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Ducking the head against a china plate Dam threw

Damkerng T.

12:16 PM

Hmmph... missed by just an inch!

MARamezani

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Q: How to get thesis paper in online

A online thesis can assist you in writing your essay or paper; they can write your assignment for you – whatever you need. If you don't have time to create a decent essay, you can assign someone who is an expert in academic writing to do your task. You not only receive a professionally written es...

Some people are weird.

@DamkerngT. Haha, you just hit that dinosaur. It's coming to get you.

Oh boo. Dave just removed the link.

It was a spam after all!

Damkerng T.

transformed himself into a cute dino.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Fat chance. It's a T-Rex.

Damkerng T.

Yikes! The T-Rex is licking me!

MARamezani

@snailboat Specially for someone like me who doesn't have access to Youtube, such thing'll rock.

@DamkerngT. Take that!

Damkerng T.

12:22 PM

@MARamezani I wish that at least they would've written that grammatically.

(Phew! I survived the T-Rex!)

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Well, Dave removed the link, and I was unsure what I was looking at. Just a spam. Let it go.

Or scam.

Damkerng T.

Ahh

MARamezani

Wait. What's the difference?

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Phew!

Damkerng T.

I didn't see the link, so I thought it was just a weird idea.

@snailboat Yes! Good morning!

Anonymous

12:24 PM

You have to watch out for angry dinosaurs.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. No academic guy will do your homework you, unless they aren't academic.

@snailboat Hullo, BTW!

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Good advice!

@MARamezani Oh, so they do academic homework? :P

Anonymous

Hallo!

MARamezani

@snailboat Then we should ban @Jim from chatting.

o.0

@DamkerngT. Academically, don't know, don't care.

Anonymous

I saw a cute little dinosaur yesterday

MARamezani

12:26 PM

@snailboat Where?

Damkerng T.

Was him Gon?

Anonymous

Luckily, it wasn't angry

Anonymous

It was on a median eating something

MARamezani

> How deal with Plagiarism

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I hope they didn't eat snails!

MARamezani

12:28 PM

This was from the site the spam was from.

Anonymous

You know, I rarely get a chance to see what dinosaurs eat

MARamezani

I think plagiarism just trembled in fear.

Anonymous

I see them pecking at the ground all the time

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Oh? Is it about "How to deal with plagiarism when you get caught"?

@snailboat That makes me curious! (And it wasn't just one dinosaur, even!)

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Maybe.

Anonymous

12:30 PM

Oh, we have lots of dinosaurs living in our trees

Damkerng T.

Oh, I see. You mean their remote cousins!

MARamezani

@snailboat They're miniatures, somehow?

Anonymous

Well, birds are dinosaurs

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. I don't think snailor has robots on the trees.

Anonymous

But it's more fun to say dinosaur than bird :-)

Damkerng T.

12:31 PM

:D

MARamezani

@snailboat We are too, if we're getting in an "evolution" philosophical war.

Anonymous

Well, that made no sense

Damkerng T.

When you said you saw a cute little dinosaur, I thought you meant Gon:

Anonymous

Hah, I'm not familiar with this Gon

MARamezani

Any chance Gon looks like Image not found?

Damkerng T.

12:32 PM

lol -- Sorry!

Gon (manga)

Gon (Japanese: ゴン) is a tiny fictional dinosaur and the title character of a Japanese manga series created by Masashi Tanaka. The Gon series features the completely wordless adventures of the irascible title character as he interacts with the natural world, depicted by Tanaka in lush, realistic detail. Gon somehow survived the extinction of his fellow dinosaurs and interacts with paleolithic animals. Gon was most notable outside of Japan for his appearance in the PlayStation version of Tekken 3. An animated TV series began airing in Japan on April 2, 2012. In 1998, the manga received an Excellence...

MARamezani

That looks

ANGRY.

Damkerng T.

He's usually friendly, but don't make him angry!

It's a hilarious manga.

Oh, another unique thing about Gon (the manga) is that it has "no dialog or onomatopoetic words"!

So you can enjoy it in any language.

Anonymous

It's all pictures?

MARamezani

Now that I thinked very very hard, I think I remember my brother watch it.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Yes! There isn't even a single sound effect!

> Masashi Tanaka (Gon's creator) has said, "This work contains no dialog or onomatopoetic words. People always ask me why I have done this. From the beginning, I didn't think it was necessary. Manga should be without grammar. I also think that it is strange to give animals human language and make them talk. [...]"

I think that's fair. :D

MARamezani

12:40 PM

:O

Is that possible?

A sane Manga creator?

0.o

Damkerng T.

:D

Come to think about it, I'm not very sure that it's without sound effect words completely. But I'm sure that there was no animal sounds in the manga.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Come to think of it.

Anonymous

In Japanese, a manga creator is called a mangaka

MARamezani

@snailboat Like, like a magician? Reminds me of that.

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Oh, yes. Thanks. I shouldn't've missed that one. It's one of my catchphrases.

LOL

Anonymous

12:43 PM

Yes, -ka is somewhat similar to -ian

Damkerng T.

(I'm watching a movie trailer. Not sure about its title.)

@DamkerngT. Fast 7?

Oh, it's Pixels!

They say it's out.

> "Pacman is a bad guy?"

:D

MARamezani

12:44 PM

@DamkerngT. BOOOOOOORRRRRRRIIIIIIIING!

Damkerng T.

I know, I know. It's still new to me!

MARamezani

Josh Gad looks like Jeff.

Who knew? Lots of actors looks like Jeff Atwood.

Kevin James.

Damkerng T.

Ahh... Olaf.

MARamezani

Hmm, or maybe, Jeff looks like them!

o.o

Damkerng T.

Oh, the latest Bond movie's title is curious: Spectre. Note the order of r and e.

MARamezani

12:48 PM

@DamkerngT. Reminds me of spectrum. Not weird.

@DamkerngT. Oh, I got reminded of something.

Damkerng T.

I don't know the plural form of spectrum!

MARamezani

Spectres are ghosts, or whatever.

Anonymous

spectra

Damkerng T.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks!

MARamezani

@snailboat Linear emission spectra. Yup. I agree.

Anonymous

12:50 PM

I'm glad we can agree about at least some facts

Damkerng T.

:D

MARamezani

@snailboat It's rare.

RARE I say.

Damkerng T.

To make it spectaculre, I agree, too!

MARamezani

Don't get used to it!

Anonymous

Well, it doesn't matter to me either way

MARamezani

12:51 PM

Okay, I'm off to do some work. Gotta get some reading done. Ya know. Nerd stuff. Be back in some minutes.

Damkerng T.

See you in some minutes!

0

Q: What is the difference between the words "clear", "transparent" and "obvious"?

I would appreciate it if you could tell me the difference between the words "clear", "transparent" and "obvious".

vocabulary word-difference

Anonymous

They each have a range of uses in different contexts...

Damkerng T.

Oh, did SE change something about showing the close reasons?

I didn't mean the question. I mean, I can see the reason everyone voted!

Anonymous

Hmm, I think it's been like that for a bit now

Damkerng T.

I hadn't noticed!

Anonymous

12:56 PM

It only works for off-topic close reasons, I think...?

Anonymous

@snailbat, Thanks for the edit! — Araucaria 4 hours ago

Damkerng T.

Yay!

Anonymous

I've been given yet another name!

Damkerng T.

Oh, I missed that!

lol

Anonymous

I don't mind. Bats can be surprisingly cute, you know.

Damkerng T.

12:59 PM

I think snailbot could be cute, too. :-)

Anonymous

I can't link to it easily because of my phone browser, but if you go do a Google image search for cute bats, you're sure to go aww :-)

Damkerng T.

I'm sure!

Bats are common in Thai culture.

Anonymous

Oh really?

Damkerng T.

A classical Thai song is titled, Bat eats banana. :-)

Anonymous

Bats used to be common in the US, but I'm afraid we've been unkind to them

Anonymous

1:01 PM

Aww, now that sounds cute :-)

Damkerng T.

It's a cute rhythm!

Let me try to find it...

Jude Niroshan

see you tomorrow fellas

bye

Damkerng T.

@JudeNiroshan See you!

Anonymous

A friend of mine had a bat get in their house one time

Damkerng T.

I can't find a classic version I'm used to (most of the clips on YouTube are improvised one way or another). This is the closest one, but its recording quality is not very good. Still, you can get how it feels like:

> youtube.com/watch?v=OCaFQ13UOaI

@snailboat Hah!

Was there a cave nearby?

Anonymous

1:07 PM

I don't know!

Anonymous

It was an online friend

Damkerng T.

Oh, this version is good! It's by Bangkok Symphony Orchestra: youtube.com/watch?v=KYiiDFwW-2o

Anonymous

Those um, khims? Are really something

Anonymous

Is that the right name for the instrument?

Damkerng T.

Yes. We have an instrument called khim (ขิม).

I'm not sure which instrument they used.

Oh, I knew that "cute bat" will get me some cute bats, but this is too cute!

Anonymous

1:13 PM

Oh wow, the symphonic version is quite different!

Anonymous

Aww :-)

Damkerng T.

Oh, yes, those are khims in the first clip.

Anonymous

Yay!

Anonymous

Japan has a famous snail song but I don't know any bat songs

Damkerng T.

That slug song is still one of my favorites. :-)

Anonymous

1:20 PM

Hee

Anonymous

Ooh, I just found a new band by searching for bats

Anonymous

キンモクセイ - 人とコウモリ

►

Anonymous

They've got this kind of j-rock thing going on with two parts ska and one part surf mixed in

MARamezani

I'M BACK! (Oh no)

Damkerng T.

Somehow it sounds so familiar!

(Sorry, I lost my internet connection.)

MARamezani

1:32 PM

Yukh, was that supposed to be chocolate?

Anonymous

What?

Damkerng T.

Does this band also do anime or TV series music?

MARamezani

I once again reach the conclusion that I hate dark chocolate.

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Oh, I see. It's not very sweet, right? :-)

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. It's dark. There was melody TM which was super-delicious (and it was 87% bitter chocolate) but these brands now....

Anonymous

1:36 PM

I don't see any dramas or anime listed on their Wikipedia page

Anonymous

Using that in Was that supposed to be chocolate? was infelicitous

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Interesting! I thought it would fit things like GTO perfectly!

MARamezani

@snailboat Really? Why? I heard a lot of natives use it.

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Like adding a grain of sugar to your eyes?

Anonymous

The problem here is you don't know what infelicitous means, and I haven't explained

MARamezani

1:38 PM

@DamkerngT. Kinda.

@snailboat Inappropriate?

Google says I'm right.

Anonymous

That exact phrase would be fine in a slightly different context

Anonymous

But we didn't know anything about chocolate before you said it—it was new to the discourse

MARamezani

@snailboat I was shocking you.

Anonymous

So I would've personally gone for this instead

Anonymous

Oops, can't fix typos on my phone

Anonymous

1:41 PM

I'm not arguing, I'm just telling you how it is

Anonymous

You're free to discard the information

MARamezani

@snailboat Not arguing? NOOOOOOO!

Anonymous

I haven't heard of that Pixels movie yet!

Anonymous

Or hadn't, maybe :-)

Damkerng T.

It's about aliens sending our retro video game characters to invade our Earth!

Anonymous

1:43 PM

Oh, I give up on trying to say stuff good.

Damkerng T.

(That's what I gathered from the trailer.)

Anonymous

Too hard without an edit button :-)

Damkerng T.

Aww...

Anonymous

Edit button get!

Damkerng T.

Yay!

Anonymous

1:47 PM

Hey, now I can see stars, too.

Anonymous

People agree with the audio player thingy!

Anonymous

We have a meta post about that somewhere.

MARamezani

@snailboat I do I do.

Anonymous

Contributing to the meta thread in some way might help

Anonymous

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Q: Embed an audio player

Questions about the pronunciation of a word as heard are probably common for a site for people learning a language. I can imagine questions similar to the following ones: I listened to this [link to an audio file, or a video] but I don't understand what word is being said at the beginning, and ...

feature-request

2

Anonymous

1:54 PM

Has everyone who's interested upvoted that feature request?

MARamezani

Me? Yup.

Anonymous

Yay

Anonymous

0

Q: Which form of verb should be used?

In the text "plug-in mobile charger in socket and turn it on and touch the other end(pin side) while standing on ground bare feet.what happened? got a shock as you have completed the circuit?NO? now think why for 5 mins and then if you got the answer (well done) otherwise ask in comment" Now I w...

grammar

Anonymous

This question isn't about proofreading, but the OP is nonetheless in dire need of some proofreading…

Damkerng T.

I starred that so everyone can see that meta post.

Anonymous

1:59 PM

Yay!

Anonymous

I just noticed it's already gone up to 19 :-)

Damkerng T.

:D

Anonymous

Mwa, ha, ha!

Anonymous

All the stars will be mine!

Damkerng T.

lol

MARamezani

2:01 PM

Sheesh. I starred too. Snailor is star-attracting.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I guess that their original is probably written by a non-native speaker.

Anonymous

It's hard to imagine otherwise

Damkerng T.

Or they must've dropped something during the pasting.

MARamezani

Hullo @Fantasier!

Finally, after a desertitious week, periodic table is active.

Damkerng T.

Periodic table?

Anonymous

2:03 PM

Interesting derivation!

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Chemistry chat! Please don't erase your memory everyday robot!

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Umm... I expected it would be capitalized, if it was a name.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Then it would get mixed up with the real Periodic table...Wait a second!

Damkerng T.

Wow, Laotian music in Thai is very nice! (I let the playlist run since Bat Eats Banana.)

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Laot? I remember that thing from somewhere.

Where? Where?

Anonymous

2:05 PM

The periodic table is usually not capitalized

MARamezani

o.0

Anonymous

Unless you have some special reason to do so

Damkerng T.

Laotian is derived from Laos.

Anonymous

But The Periodic Table, the chat room, presumably is?

MARamezani

@snailboat That's why I wait-a-second'd.

Damkerng T.

2:06 PM

Laos is a country next to Thailand.

Anonymous

My brother spent some time in Laos.

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. Oh, yes.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Oh, nice!

It looks even more peaceful than the suburb of Bangkok.

MARamezani

Accompanying @JimReynolds has worsened my alzheimer's.

Anonymous

Hmm, $21 for Hito to Kōmori and 14 other songs

Anonymous

2:12 PM

amazon.co.jp/…

MARamezani

@snailboat Is that guy's neck broken?

Anonymous

@MARamezani They might be lying face up on a tub with additives that turn the water green

MARamezani

@snailboat Additives? Don't make me...

...go back to reading organochem.

@snailboat Maybe it was grass?

Anonymous

Whatever nyūyokuzai are called in English

MARamezani

Google Translate wasn't useful, as usual.

Damkerng T.

2:15 PM

Oh, it's Spring 60% off!

Anonymous

@MARamezani You'd have to enter 入浴剤 to get it to work, probably

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. I think the spring part is irrelevant...

@snailboat I did.

The result was additive.

Running in circles.

Anonymous

I'm listening to all the samples. It's more varied than I'd imagined!

Anonymous

Their music, I mean.

Damkerng T.

Oops! Amazon Japan can remember me!

I'm sure they will recommend me lots of other music stuff the next time I sign in!

Anonymous

2:21 PM

Yeah, they do that to me, too :-)

Anonymous

You can turn that off in settings, though.

Anonymous

I mean, they might still remember what you look at, but they'll at least pretend they don't.

Damkerng T.

Oh, which button do I need to click?!

MARamezani

@snailboat I remember I used to be unsigned in to Google. It just remembered the history too well. :)

Anonymous

This looks like it might work: tech-recipes.com/rx/12005/…

MARamezani

2:22 PM

@DamkerngT. Donate (If it exists)

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Thanks!

Anonymous

Donating to a large corporation is something of a contradiction in terms

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Hehe!

MARamezani

@snailboat That's too bad. It's ruining my joke.

Anonymous

Oh, it's okay. Your joke was fine. That was just me ruining it :-)

Damkerng T.

2:32 PM

1

Q: Passive Structure

Which of the following rewritten options for each sentence is proper English? If both, do you see any difference between them? Sentence 1: Beethoven is now known to have suffered from lead poisoning. A: It is now known that Beethoven suffered from lead poisoning. B: It is now known t...

grammar

I don't think this is a proofreading question, even though it could look like one.

MARamezani

Passive passive passive! Aaargh! Why aren't there any creative Qs on ELL recently?

Oh that's right - Cuz I'm not asking one. :P

Anonymous

It seems like a two-in-one question

Anonymous

It'd be better if they split it up

MARamezani

@snailboat Double homework? That'd be a nightmare! :P

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Ask one, get one free!

MARamezani

2:40 PM

Realized I VTC'd that thing already

Damkerng T.

I don't think it's his homework, either.

MARamezani

Maybe he's proofreading for someone else, just like shooting star.

Anonymous

I don't think we can tell whether or not it's actually homework they've been assigned.

Anonymous

We might be able to call it a "homework question" if we give that term a specific definition

MARamezani

@snailboat Indeed. This isn't chemistry.

Anonymous

2:42 PM

But we haven't really done so on ELL

MARamezani

OMG! I earned civic duty on meta.SE!

Anonymous

Hooray

Damkerng T.

Yay!

Anonymous

Which one is that again? Voting... 300 times?

MARamezani

@snailboat Yup. And I think I was gonna ask something in meta.ELL.

@snailboat Yes.

@DamkerngT. Bows

Anonymous

2:45 PM

Oh, vintage!

MARamezani

@snailboat The Aston Martin?

(Rhetoric)

Damkerng T.

0

Q: 'Yours faithfully' vs 'Yours sincerely'

I already and understand Wikipedia on 'valediction and user 'Manoochehr' 's answer on ELU: As reported by Oxford Handbook of Commercial Correspondence: [1.] If the letter begins with Dear Sir, Dear Sirs, Dear Madam, or Dear Sir/Madam, the COMPLIMENTARY CLOSE should be "Yours faithful...

difference valediction

Hmm... I remember I've heard such a tip before.

MARamezani

This is nonsense. — TRomano 12 hours ago

So much for being nice....

Damkerng T.

I've never looked into the inside of "Yours sincerely" or "Yours faithfully".

MARamezani

I've never written a letter in English.

Anonymous

2:47 PM

@DamkerngT. Me either. But I live in the post-Yours faithfully era.

MARamezani

@snailboat Which is 1810s?

Anonymous

I have no idea.

MARamezani

Me either.

Anonymous

We did learn Yours sincerely in school, but I've had basically no use for the phrase in my adult life

Anonymous

I don't expect to ever use To whom it may concern non-facetiously, either

Anonymous

2:49 PM

Category two error, ahoy!

Anonymous

I typed make instead of may!

Damkerng T.

:D

MARamezani

@snailboat Hurricane?

Anonymous

Just a little one, nothing to worry about.

MARamezani

@snailboat There goes my hat.

Damkerng T.

2:50 PM

@MARamezani snailboat referred to my Categories List (of leaners' errors).

Anonymous

I hope there was no cat in it!

MARamezani

Oh wait. Didn't have one on.

@DamkerngT. Explain more. (No, not really)

Damkerng T.

2 days ago, by Damkerng T.

> Category 0: Perfect English (no correction needed)
Category 1: Passable English (unidiomatic but acceptable; make the correction only occasionally)
Category 2: Spontaneous Error (the student recognizes the error, but may make it spontaneously; the student can correct the error by themselves in writing; correction is unnecessary but useful)
Category 3: Known Error (the student recognizes the error, but may make it both spontaneously and in writing; the student cannot correct the error themselves; correction is required)

Anonymous

I sometimes write category negative one English.

Damkerng T.

lol

Anonymous

2:52 PM

Unfortunately, the categories are stored in an unsigned variable…

MARamezani

Well, if I wrote that, @Jim would've said:

20 hours ago, by Jim Reynolds

GO TO BED, MAR

Damkerng T.