Minecraft Talk

user43095

1:02 AM

[@Ieuan[(reddit.com/r/feedthebeast/comments/30qgdj/…)

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Kinda the reason I didn't want to do 64x64x64

Mine is now 23x23x7

user43095

My guess is because of liquids. If you let the gelid cryotheum settle it should be fine.

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Well it's only with flowing stuff

If it's all source blocks it's fine

But then you have to fill it all with source blocks rather than just the top layer

So it's 5 times as expensive

@JeffreyLin Could you do science for me? I can't atm because my HDD is failing hard and I'm not even able to run linux normaly

user43095

@Ieuan Depends. What science?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Need to know if having 3 wells of suffering actually does anything at all

user43095

1:13 AM

With your kill rates? Probably not.

user43095

Remember, the whole point of two more wells is to kill faster so that it spawns faster. But it doesn't matter for you anyway because your spawn rates are set by how fast the mob leaves the cursed earth.

user43095

Now, if you had something like Kevin's, then yeah, more damage would result in faster deaths which results in faster spawns

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin Not really anymore, the wisps don't seem to care about the cursed earth

Also

Altar can now hold 104k LP

That enough?

user43095

For the next tier orb? no

Ieuan

The next tier orb is the orb of testing m8

user43095

1:18 AM

Wat no

user43095

After archmage?

Ieuan

Oh the transcendant

user43095

I don't even know how the make the stuff it calls for

Ieuan

Need crystal cluster for that lol

5 life shards 4 soul shards

user43095

Yeah there's no NEI-able recipe for that.

Ieuan

1:20 AM

Aren't those the thaumcraft ones?

user43095

Are they? Don't think so. Unless we have Forbidden Magic. Which we don't. But I still want. Because cool stuff just for a warp-head like me.

Ieuan

Hmm

Source code for blood magic shows no life or soul shards

So it must be from some other mod

user43095

LIES

user43095

What mod is it from when you hover over it in NEI?

user43095

package WayofTime.alchemicalWizardry.common.items;

import cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.Side;
import cpw.mods.fml.relauncher.SideOnly;
import net.minecraft.client.renderer.texture.IIconRegister;

public class TranscendentBloodOrb extends EnergyBattery
{
    public TranscendentBloodOrb(int damage)
    {
        super(damage);
        orbLevel = 6;
    }

    @Override
    @SideOnly(Side.CLIENT)
    public void registerIcons(IIconRegister iconRegister)
    {
        this.itemIcon = iconRegister.registerIcon("AlchemicalWizardry:TranscendentBloodOrb");

Ieuan

1:25 AM

Yeah found shards too

github.com/WayofTime/BloodMagic/blob/…

user43095

You and your GitHub magic

user43095

That means we need to summon a demon attack thing @gnovice

Ieuan

I have a fallen angel following me around and protecting me

LOL

It fell in the portal

user43095

minecraft-techworld.com/forum/topic/…

user43095

DEMON INVASION PLZ

user43095

1:29 AM

We need a warded box ten high so that it doesn't screw up the overworld.

user43095

Or a void age. Probably far from the Botania things.

Ieuan

Is that enough power storage?

gnovice

@JeffreyLin Demon villages can supposedly spread a ridiculous amount I think, but are stopped by 10 block high boundaries.

So we could put it in a patched up quarry hole, or its own age.

Ieuan

How much space do we need?

Lots of unused islands near me

Could make a demon island out of one of them

With a 20 high wall

gnovice

@Ieuan Hmmm, maybe it wouldn't even need a wall if it's on an island.

Ieuan

1:34 AM

We could just make another superflat world

user43095

Let's not speculate about something that could potentially terraform 2000 blocks on either side.

user43095

@Ieuan What's that indicator on the left?

Ieuan

Lol 'a lot of ritual stones' > 128

@JeffreyLin The HUD one or the power bar?

user43095

The HUD, I know what the power bar is :P

Ieuan

No idea

Oh we need 8 belljars

user43095

1:39 AM

@Ieuan Where is this documented?

Ieuan

Blood Magic Developer Commentary #8

►

user43095

Is it in written form anywhere?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin I can document it tomorrow

Gotta go to bed like.. an hour gago

user43095

That's like everyday, except you replace "hour" with any number between 2 and 6

Ieuan

So basically

We need 2 stacks of ritual stones and a master ritual stone

One belljar full of all the reagents

Like.. one each

Should be about 16

user43095

1:45 AM

And 15 million LP

Ieuan

15m LP in a network

Stuff to get the RA into the relays and then stuff to link the relays to the master ritual stone

We need a blue activation thing

We need a demon (easy)

And a sacrifice sword

user43095

A wat sword

Ieuan

What happens roughly is this;

RA goes into relays and linked up to ritual

Ritual activate, relays turned on

Lightning happens while RA is transfered to ritual, should take about 2 minutes

Then once the lightning is over, make a little enclosure over the altar on top of the master ritual stone and place the demon inside it from the safari net thing you get from killing it before you started

And sacrifice it to the lvl 1 altar

Once that's done explosions happen, the altar turns into a portal block and the whole ritual is consumed and turns into a portal

user43095

Estimated hardness, from 1 to 100, where 100 is like the hardest thing in the game?

Ieuan

Then demons start spawning and find a place to put their house

I'd say 100 for the setup, 50 for executing it all correctly and likely around 60-70 for the demons themselves

Like

If you attack one demon they instantly swarm on you

user43095

1:49 AM

I'd say 40 for demons, 100 for ingredients, and 50 for actual setup.

user43095

Do they fly?

Ieuan

5 fire demons with the elemental protection sigil do about 1 zombie vs diamond armor of damage when wearing blood armor and infinite LP

They don't

Elementals fly, not demons

user43095

Do you fly?

Ieuan

Depends on what I ate the day before

user43095

So then there's no problem

Ieuan

1:50 AM

First things first though

We need the RA and a superflat age

user43095

Why a new age?

Ieuan

You wanna go in workshop?

user43095

What happened to "I'll put it in my backyard"?

Ieuan

Idm that either

user43095

Superflat age would be nice though. Should be minimal lag compared to overworld

user43095

1:52 AM

Now just have to see if Tim has the right pages.

Ieuan

Well not just lag though

We need a fuckton of space and we can't really risk overworld

Superflat is perfect for it

user43095

I meant the superflat age wouldn't lag as hard as overworld. I completely agree that we need it.

Ieuan

Alright well I'm off to bed

See if you can maybe get the RA going

And acquire a summon demon thing

I had one but I spawned it to try it out

user43095

I probably won't be on for the rest of tonight.

Tim Post

@Ieuan Got room for a blaze spawner or two in your magic mob killer?

user43095

2:01 AM

What's RA? the reagents?

Ieuan

@TimPost Sure, put them in

user43095

@TimPost He could use the extra mobs

Ieuan

I have to make it stop leaking though

So placing it in the center at the same level as the rest would probably best

user43095

Where's the leak? I think it's because you have space outside of the spawner

Ieuan

And there's now water at the bottom that would hurt the blaze

@JeffreyLin Yeah they spawn outside

Tim Post

2:02 AM

Okay. It'd be nice to have a semi-steady supply of blaze rods trickling into someone's system.

Ieuan

@TimPost Yeah I was tinkering with enderio spawners for that but those are slow

user43095

Activate the workshop's spawner. We have craptons of Mob essence

Tim Post

I'll also grab a cave spider spawner from under one of those haunted greatwoods

user43095

Also Tim it'd be nice if you could shove a couple gaseous tenebrae in there.

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin Would the grinder kill flying things, though? e.g. wisps and blazes?

user43095

2:03 AM

@TimPost It does, I tested with blazes and taint swarms. MFR spawner doesn't spawn wisps though.

user43095

Kills any mob marked as hostile in the xyz area in front of it as far as I know.

Tim Post

@JeffreyLin Easy enough to just drop a a wisp spawner right on cursed earth (having fun with a dislocation focus lately)

user43095

My next project is to make a stack or two of gaseous tenebrae and shove them in everybody's spawner while not wearing my KAMI armor.

Tim Post

2:58 AM

I'm debating building a (decent-sized) rail system. Seems like it might be fun. On the other hand, it's a hell of a lot of work.

might post on reddit "serious railcrafter wanted"

user43095

ExplodingPie was discussing building a rail system linking everybody's house. It is a lot of work and would be kinda weird considering most of our bases are high in the sky.

Tim Post

3:27 AM

@JeffreyLin Eh, most of us have some means of getting up there on the ground, even if just travel anchors. Would be a neat way for new people to tour the server.

And get that "rode a minecart for 1000 blocks" achievement at the same time

user43095

I have some HS tracks, but nothing too serious. Definitely take a lot of resources and work to get it set up.

gnovice

3:44 AM

@TimPost I'd chip in to help work on it. I built a bedrock-layer cart system in my old vanilla world connecting all my points of interest.

Tim Post

5:32 AM

@gnovice It'd be neat, we're using basically everything from railcraft but the .. rails :)

Ieuan

7:53 AM

Well if I could get some coordinates I wouldn't mind digging tunnels

My bound pick instamines stone and my bound shovel instamines pretty much everything shovels are needed for

If no-one objects I could put my blood magic setup in workshop

Maybe add something to make the runes interchangable

i.e. press button and it changes into extra sacrifice runes

ratchet freak

8:11 AM

probably easier to maximize use of an external LP tank

Ieuan

8:23 AM

@ratchetfreak Well my idea was one altar with the tier 5 runes all the upgraded capacity runes, the tier 4 and 3 runes all dislocation and then the tier 2 runes either just plain runes or something else useful

And then setting up one or two other altars with a spawner and dislocation like the other but sacrifice instead of capacity

So you get massive LP coming into the one altar easily maxing out a couple drums

Ieuan

8:36 AM

@JeffreyLin why are there a ton of eggs in one of the vac chests?

Kevin van der Velden

Because @JeffreyLin

I mean, eggs? Duh

Ieuan

Yeah but I fail to see even his reasoning here lol

@JeffreyLin should be tier 3 now

Ieuan

9:15 AM

@TimPost i.imgur.com/LifXl53.png

Doing pretty well

Tim Post

@Ieuan Dayum! That's only .. wow, not quite two day's worth. I'll be on in 5 - 6 hours to set up a bridge to pump them into my crystalization setup. Just need an interface on your end and a dimensional transceiver.

Ieuan

@TimPost Sure man, I have a transceiver at my capacitor banks, feel free to put that nearer to my AE system and there should be enough other stuff in my AE to make it all work

Tim Post

I accidentally made like 2 stacks of interfaces so .. should be good. What would be cool is if we could put it somewhere very convenient for anyone to get to, but that gets complicated.

Like a community AE network, but that means one quantum ring per base at least

Ieuan

9:49 AM

We could do something computercraft based, requesting items through that would be doable

I mean

I wouldn't mind making a web interface to link a computercraft network up to an online database of what items we have in the community thing

Where you then enter your name and can send items to your base

Off for a bit, gonna fix spawner when I get back

Tim Post

11:57 AM

Kevin van der Velden

Wait, this isn't GameDev?

Steals

Tim Post

12:54 PM

@Ieuan Not finding an ideal spot to stick this interface and transceiver, anywhere in particular you want it?

Tim Post

1:32 PM

Also, weird, a storage bus doesn't see the transceiver as a valid destination inventory (at least it's not putting anything in it directly), will try again with a conduit

Ieuan

6:26 PM

@TimPost I don really care where you put it :P

user43095

7:15 PM

@TimPost Did you set that side of transceiver to inputs?

Ieuan

@JeffreyLin you playing today?

Can endermen pick up cursed earth?

Unionhawk

7:32 PM

Don't think so, in either case, they have to be able to grab a side of a block, they can't steal a block if they can only reach the top

Ieuan

Something drained 1200 million RF while I was afk

@Unionhawk So then lining a spawner with dark glass makes them able to pick up dark glass?

Or can't they pick that up?

Unionhawk

No, they can only pick up certain blocks

I don't know if cursed earth is on that list or not, grass and dirt are, so it might be

But I don't know, and EU isn't open source so I can't verify without science

Like, they can pick up grass normally, but...

Ieuan

@Unionhawk Like we need open soruce for that

Unionhawk

That grass block cannot be picked up by an enderman

Wait, no, I lied, hang on

gnovice

7:48 PM

The unofficial wiki says that an Enderman picking up cursed earth causes a server crash, so at least at some point they could pick it up. Not sure if it's been fixed since then.

Unionhawk

They can pick up blocks at the same y level as their feet

So if they can only stand on top of the cursed earth, and not get 1 y below, they cannot pick it up?

I'm loading up science, hang on

Ieuan

@Unionhawk git.ruun.nl/Ieuan/ExtraUtilities

Unionhawk

Oh good, either cursed earth or ender zoo ignores doMobSpawning false

Nope, carriableBlocks is a Set inside EntityEnderman.java, and isn't (probably cannot be) touched by Extra Utilities

In either case, it really doesn't make sense for Endermen to be able to

user43095

8:11 PM