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Journeyman Geek

12:00 AM

we still have 2008 or older era workstations in production

DragonLord

vanshardware.com/reviews/2002/08/020822_AthlonXP2600/…

This is from 2002

ir.amd.com/…

This is from 2012

It turns out SYSmark has always been biased towards Intel

No wonder AMD is so weak today. Intel has been playing dirty all along.

AMD was getting crippled during the Athlon XP days and now lacks the resources to develop a decent x86 processor.

Journeyman Geek

intel has been playing dirty in other ways ;p

oops

whoa...

DragonLord

If Intel didn't run this "destroy AMD" campaign nearly 15 years ago, we'd probably see far more and better hardware from AMD today.

Journeyman Geek

I tend to disagree

DragonLord

I was a bit skeptical about AMD's claims about SYSmark being biased when I first read them. Further research confirmed these claims.

My personal laptop has an Intel processor, the first Intel machine in more than a decade, and now I might have to reconsider.

Journeyman Geek

12:08 AM

If you want to get a worse processor, go ahead.

DragonLord

Yes, Intel's processors may be better overall, but it's my hope that AMD can catch up and recover from this unfair play that nearly destroyed them.

Journeyman Geek

Don't forget, that had nothing to do with process improvements (AMD did try to set up their own fabs, and messed that up business wise) and intel's own post PIV architecture improvements.

DragonLord

Clock for clock, the Athlon XP processor was vastly superior to the Pentium 4.

AMD had a serious chance to bridge the sales gap with Intel, but was prevented from doing so.

Intel had manipulated an industry-standard benchmark to discredit AMD.

Intel wrote its compiler to seriously disadvantage AMD.

Intel pushed for maximum clock rate, not real performance.

Intel used coercive tactics to compel computer manufacturers to select them over AMD.

forbes.com/2005/06/28/amd-intel-lawsuit-cx_ah_0628amd.html

In the absence of this foul play, AMD would be much stronger today.

I know much of this is no longer current, and Intel no longer plays dirty to this extent, the impact of Intel's foul play lingers to this day.

Journeyman Geek

12:31 AM

actually, they still do ;p

(hell, that's probably one of the reasons the x86 netbook made a comeback, and x86 phones are so damned cheap)

as a consumer, and an enthusiast tho, I'd rather get gear on the basis of what works for me.

Journeyman Geek

12:44 AM

blah, java

Journeyman Geek

1:28 AM

So. I have a webcam in my room that's supposed to be connectable over the cloud.app isn't working, so.... I remote into my laptop to check on him :p

Bob

2:42 AM

@DragonLord Keep in mind that they have more knowledge of how to optimise for their architecture. What's optimal for an Intel proc is not necessarily optimal for an AMD proc. It's really up to them if their niche HPC compiler makes these optimisations that provide a minor performance boost on an Intel proc (and even a minor boost really matters in HPC) but ends up being a penalty on an AMD proc.

Heck, if it's optimised for a specific architecture I would not be surprised to see it doing worse on other Intel architectures.

DragonLord

agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49

Bob

3:00 AM

@JourneymanGeek Both the BEBs and Pistons arrived today.

Trying the Pistons now.

That chocolate smell :)

They sound great

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Chocolate... smell?

nice ;p

Also, we can't blame Intel for architectural misteps

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Smell from the cable - the gold/brown ones have a chocolate smell :D

Journeyman Geek

Ahh 0_0

Bob

3:16 AM

Hm. Was abit annoying to get the tiny QR to scan, but passed the genuine test :P

Apparently fakes don't have the chocolate smell anyway.

Journeyman Geek

I was thinking of getting the silvers ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Got a pair of 'em too

Not as much of a smell...

is that... vanilla?

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

Nah, just my imagination :P

@JourneymanGeek Also picked up one of the Paperback ones... it sounds decent :P

The fit isn't quite as good as the normal one, but it's good enough to use, and the sound quality is obviously miles ahead of random $2 cheapies.

@JourneymanGeek I've apparently forgotten how to wear normal earbuds O_O

Either that or the BEBs are particularly massive

Journeyman Geek

lol

paperback?

the BEBs look massive

Bob

3:31 AM

@JourneymanGeek head-fi.org/t/735775/the-xiaomi-pistons-thread-2-0

@JourneymanGeek They are!

Doesn't help that I apparently have tiny ears.

Paperback is basically the small/cheap version.

Journeyman Geek

ahh

eh, I can't get most earbuds to fit ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Same :P

I'm lucky my old Samsung ones fit. But it's something like $40 for a new pair, and they don't even sound as good as the $20 Pistons

Journeyman Geek

(I have a small pile of headphones from various android devices... HTC, Samsung and Moto ><)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm a bit annoyed with the mic on the Pistons, though

For some reason, it's at the point where the left and right lines merge.

So it sits under my chin rather than next to my mouth.

Journeyman Geek

3:46 AM

cheaper to produce? Good for left and right handers?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I don't think mic side really matters too much for different dominant hands.

The BEBs are on the left.

Almost all others are on the right.

In the middle is just awkward.

Bob

3:59 AM

O_O

I... I just tried to clear the Spotify cache on my phone. My phone... restarted?

wtf?

Journeyman Geek

4:10 AM

I suppose.

Not sure how important it is, I'm vaguely amphidextrous, and actually use my non natural dominant hand as my dominant hand.

(I'm a lefty, but I got forced to use my right in school)

Bob

4:22 AM

@JourneymanGeek I use whichever hand is free for on-cord audio controls.

Right-handed writing though.

"How do percentages work?" --Spotify

Journeyman Geek

4:51 AM

clearly they had the same guy who coded MS's progress time counter

orrrr

its by size not count

Bob

5:08 AM

@allquixotic Spotify's latest version on Android seems to have this very annoying bug.

For some downloaded tracks, it won't advance to the next one automatically.

Journeyman Geek

hm, for some wierd reason, the phone app for our IP camera works but won't tilt and pan the camera, and the webapp fails.

Also, the dog's barking at the room door ..

poor thing

Bob

Good thing I backed up the previous version...

Journeyman Geek

and blah. I want to go home to check on him

but that'll be tight

and he'll expect it every day ><

Bob

o.o

Oh, wait, you're at work

Journeyman Geek

yeah

Parents are away for 20 days, and dog is home alone.

(Parents got too used to me being at home to keep an eye on things. This was badly planned)

XKCD

5:22 AM

When I was little I had trouble telling my dad apart form the dog. I always recognized my mom because she had a bunch of extra plutoniums in her middle. I never did ask her why ...

Journeyman Geek

6:04 AM

and... he's barking. A lot.

Possibly at the camera

Journeyman Geek

7:10 AM

deadline.com/2015/02/…

Boris_yo

7:35 AM

@JourneymanGeek @Psycogeek Your thoughts?

Journeyman Geek

7:49 AM

Donno, I'm not a photographer ;p

allquixotic

8:10 AM

Google Translate Sings: "Bohemian Rhapsody" by Queen

►

Journeyman Geek

I need to watch that when I get home.

Or on the train ;p

(also... I still find the titles on the oneboxes wierd)

allquixotic

@Bob A LANDMARK EPISODE OF ACI!!!! MH370

Air Crash Investigation: Where Is Malaysian 370? (S14E11)

►

Journeyman Geek

I just realised something funny. My crappy little netbook has the power of a ~~fully operational battlestation~~ more power than my SGI octane workstation....

Granted the old warhorse is probably over a decade old easily

allquixotic

lol

Journeyman Geek

It was obsolete when I got it, 6 years ago. The model's from '97 I think

eh. closer to 20 0_0

Bob

8:34 AM

Feb 11 at 13:21, by Bob

@allquixotic The MH370 ACI episode will air in three days.

:P

I never did get around to watching it though.

@allquixotic easily portable XD

Wait, is it that girl who did the whole lot of translated songs? We posted a bunch of em here?

"Pulled my trigger, now he's dead" => "My cat died"

O_O

allquixotic

@Bob yup

@Bob Google Translate wants you to buy a smartphone

Bob

I'll be watching the ACI episode in ~4 hours.

Unfortunately, it's probably not going to have any interesting new info

allquixotic

8:54 AM

just a good coverage of all the existing stuff yeah

Bob

@allquixotic Cache hit now 75% and 85% :D

Wonder if I can break the 90% barrier?

Bob

2:02 PM

@allquixotic Rather dark ACI :(

Journeyman Geek

2:13 PM

hmm

Apparently the stream uses the same MMC as the surface 2

Boris_yo

Do you know if there is a difference when it comes to use incandescent ultra violet lamp versus fluorescent ultra violet lamp when it comes to curing cold?

Journeyman Geek

0_0

That's probably the biggest heatsink I have ever seen

HackToHell

SSD ?

And I can't spot where it is or the RAM

Bob

@JourneymanGeek What's the CPU?

Journeyman Geek

I think both are soldered on

@Bob: I THINK its the little chip not covered by tissue

(I didn't open mine up!)

Bob

2:24 PM

> dts studio sound

better than beats

@JourneymanGeek I mean, which cpu does it have?

Journeyman Geek

OH

N2840

Bob

the actual chip would be on the underside if it's anything like other HP laptops

Journeyman Geek

Which may explain the massive heatsink

(and no vents ;p)

cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Celeron-N2840-vs-Intel-Celeron-N2807

Interestingly the 2840 is more powerful than the processor on my brix

(and the 2807 is more power efficient. The trade off being the system the 2807 is in has twice the ram, and a 1tb hdd ;p)

Bob

I need a new screenshot tool :(

SnagIt is nice, but I can't justify buying it for the 5 machines I currently use (one licence allows two machines)

Journeyman Geek

._.

What's wrong with the default one?

Bob

2:35 PM

@JourneymanGeek Default one?

Snipping Tool is too inconvenient.

Greenshot is buggy.

Journeyman Geek

ya, snipping tool ;p

I use that and licecap everywhere

Bob

That's the SanDisk SEM64G eMMC in this tablet.

For my future chat searches: CrystalDiskMark screenshot above of Lenovo Miix

Dec 10 '14 at 15:02, by Bob

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :    71.003 MB/s
          Sequential Write :    32.590 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :    70.722 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :    20.836 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) :     8.776 MB/s [  2142.5 IOPS]

That's the Samsung eMMC in the Asus VivoTab

Dec 4 '14 at 15:47, by Bob

Samsung MCG8GA eMMC...

Hm, oneboxing cuts off long messages.

@JourneymanGeek So, yea, yours has higher sequential and probably random though your test didn't cover random.

Journeyman Geek

running crystal disk mark now ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Can you pull the model number?

Journeyman Geek

I thought I posted that 0_0

ahh no

MBG4GC

Bob

2:48 PM

Oh, Samsung too

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

Wait, 32 GB?

I wonder if the MCG8GA is just the bigger variant

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

Hm, no, apparently there's a MBG4GA

Journeyman Geek

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
CrystalDiskMark 3.0.3 x64 (C) 2007-2013 hiyohiyo
                           Crystal Dew World : crystalmark.info
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

           Sequential Read :   168.122 MB/s
          Sequential Write :    54.422 MB/s
         Random Read 512KB :   158.033 MB/s
        Random Write 512KB :    46.095 MB/s

Bob

2:50 PM

Yea, yours is probably a newer or higher-power variant.

Mine is actually slower than a HDD for sequential :S

Journeyman Geek

As I think I mentioned yesterday, the main drive in the stream is worse than a real SSD but holds up ok compared to spinning rust ;p

hmm

If my SD card reader is USB2, no point getting a fast SD card, right?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Wrong.

Class10 only guarantees 10 MB/s minimum read and write

Journeyman Geek

(Thinking of using the SD card slot for extra, permanent storage)

ah

Bob

A faster (usually UHS-I) card can easily exceed 30 MB/s

OTOH, the card reader itself might not support UHS-I, so it'll fall back to Class 10.

Journeyman Geek

I'm hitting about 20 with a generic/regular sandisk.

Bob

2:54 PM

You'll have to try it to find out.

Journeyman Geek

Well, I want space/low cost over speed ;p

Bob

I did a whole bunch of tests with the Samsung UHS-I EVO MicroSDs last year.

My phone (which doesn't do UHS-I, grr) only hits about 16

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

My laptop goes 30-40

The cards are rated 45 IIRC

48

@JourneymanGeek samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/product/flash-emmc/…

So MBG4G is 32 GB

MCG8G is 64GB

The current generation is E

Yours is gen C

Mine is gen A

Journeyman Geek

so older but not quite as old?

Bob

2:58 PM

Makes sense since it's a Clover Trail (the VivoTab) :P

Journeyman Geek

XD

I believe this one's bay trail

Bob

The SanDisk used by Lenovo just sucks, but I don't expect anything but utter bullcrap to come out of Lenovo anyway.

Journeyman Geek

lol

<--- ex thinkpad fanboy

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Actually, the current gen might be C... I dunno

Journeyman Geek

I THINK EMMC 5.0 just came out

like literally.

Bob

3:00 PM

I don't understand Samsung's versioning :P

Journeyman Geek

I'll likely write a review for this over the weekend

Bob

Hm.

I should do that for my devices :P

I talk about them a lot here, but never actually write anything proper.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

And it'd be something to actually get me off my arse and get started on my blog.

Journeyman Geek

I'm pretty high up in google for the FA003 Ti ;p

Bob

3:02 PM

Which currently has all of one post, that basically says "YAY IT WORKS"

@JourneymanGeek We figured :P

I should upgrade Ghost first... it's advanced a lot

Journeyman Geek

(Still no idea why)

Bob

Maybe set up a Discourse instance

But I should also set up backups for my dedi...

And set up email on it...

Urk.

Every time I think about starting, there's this whole list of things to do -_-

Journeyman Geek

lol

Last vacation....

I mean long weekend

I had a list of things to do

did none of them. Did stuff I had been procrastinating on instead ;p

Bob

3:16 PM

i.imgur.com/O0j3JKW.gifv

o.O That's a 30 MB GIF... yea, let's keep it as a gifv link :P

Journeyman Geek

0_0

allquixotic

4:19 PM

what is a gifv? just a gif?

Bob

@allquixotic just imgur's name for mp4/webm: m.imgur.com/blog/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv

Presumably either h.264 or vp8

Spotify on Android is really stuffing up recently :(

First the issues with playing offline files, now it's hung some background or system component

And the OS crash/restart while deleting the cache

allquixotic

4:38 PM

interesting

@JourneymanGeek So you have two dogs in your house? You, and "your dog"?

David

Good morning, I'm looking for an employee timeclock for a contact, it needs to work for about 10 emploloyees and have an ethernet connection, can anyone point me towards a good timeclock review site so that I can find out what's good? Most of the sites I've found so far look like shills, Thanks

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek When designing in Photoshop and transferring partly completed work to another editing program to add effects and then again in another to add text etc. do you know how to ensure that image does not degrade in quality in this process?

That Brazilian Guy

5:02 PM

@Bob Someone's been to reddit today

allquixotic

5:17 PM

@David like a physical clock...?

allquixotic

6:50 PM

HALP I'M BURNING

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Q: Mapping Excel sheet to XML Schema - using a column for multiple attributes

I have data like this in Excel: I want to export XML using XML Maps feature like this instance, based on a schema that cannot be modified: <someRootElement> <Foo Key1="A" Key2="Q">Cheese</Foo> <Foo Key1="L" Key2="Z">Westie</Foo> <Foo Key1="M" Key2="S">Fox</Foo> <Bar Key1="A" Key2="Q">...

heartburn, that is

Journeyman Geek

8:08 PM

@allquixotic ;p

allquixotic

11:14 PM

!!;p

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