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jrg

13:00

um, lol?

Amith KK

BBL

lazyPower

a phrase i lifted from a movie... promise.

htorque

where are hot chicks?

:D

Marco Ceppi

2

htorque

though i'd prefer hot chicken wings right now

hehe

►

c&p fail → more caffeine

lazyPower

13:09

Questions Feed

Why is there not much space for my Ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/62526/why-is-there-not-much-space-for-my-ubuntu #partitioning

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on September 22, 2011 at 1:01 PM

Roland Taylor

13:54

oh hai

Marco Ceppi

14:08

@jrg What is shoes?

jrg

@MarcoCeppi cross-platform Ruby GUI toolkit.

htorque

marco likes ruby

lazyPower

o/ Roland

Marco Ceppi

I bought a new laptop \o/

Roland Taylor

\o LazyPowah :D

congratz Marco :D

Rinzwind

14:21

yes someone overhere did a chmod 777 / \o/ \o/ \o/

htorque

"chmod 777 /" is fine

"sudo chmod 777 /" is bad :P

downloading the win8 preview from microsoft: 300 KiB/s. downloading it via torrent → 2 MiB/sec. :P

i forgot my password and need to reinstall haha

Rinzwind

he was # at the time \o/

htorque

\o/ yay \o/

Rinzwind

(was not a sudo system ;) )

jrg

oh nice.

htorque

14:25

foot in a**

Rinzwind

not my problem :=)

htorque

using linux won't make you brighter. :D

Rinzwind

and since it is not a question on AU if I do help there is no REP in it :=)

htorque

"can you help me?" - "depends... are you registered on ask ubuntu?" :P

HackToHell

can partitioning be done in a text based installer ? ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download ?

in ubuntu 11.04

Marco Ceppi

14:27

@HackToHell I believe so, though can't confirm

htorque

sure. i don't know what they use, but well - it will be text based. ;)

HackToHell

@MarcoCeppi I am gonna check it out in VirtualBox

Rinzwind

@htorque "I can! (pause) if you register on AU!"

@HackToHell yes it can!

htorque

only with >500 rep for a bounty :P

HackToHell

@Rinzwind okay

Jorge Castro

14:29

yes

you can do all sorts of partitioning stuff on the alternate installer

HackToHell

hmm i have windows 8 (vhd install ) any troubles ?

htorque

i'm going to install oneiric beta 2 along windows 8 later - don't think there will be any issues.

Roland Taylor

@HackToHell what do you mean?

(any troubles?)

Marco Ceppi

@HackToHell You shouldn't, except that you probably won't be able to full dual boot since I don't think Grub can detect windows 8 partitions

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Q: Dedicated GRUB2 Partition and Windows 8

Ok so as many of you may know the Windows 8 developer preview was released today and as such I'm very eager to use it but I have both Ubuntu and Windows 7 installed on my machine. I don't want to disturb these drives and have recently set up a dedicated grub partition on /media/sdb8 My question ...

windows

HackToHell

@RolandTaylor well i meant will there be any troubles :)

@MarcoCeppi ok ..

jrg

14:42

@MarcoCeppi @RolandTaylor @HackToHell I triple boot Windows 8, 11.10 and 10.04.

Works fine for me.

HackToHell

@jrg why 11.10 and 10.04 ?

jrg

LTS and Ubuntu+1.

HackToHell

oh

jrg

Gives me a stable fix when I need something that "just works", and bleeding edge when I'm bored.

HackToHell

:) does 10.10 have an built in partition manager ?

jrg

14:44

gparted should do the trick.

HackToHell

does it have gui ?

i am no linux expert !

jrg

Yes.

HackToHell

gr8

does the usb creator that comes with Ubuntu 10.10 create boot flags or must i do it manually ?

htorque

15:00

partition is marked bootable, yes

HackToHell

okay thanks :)

htorque

15:17

cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/oneiric-desktop-i386.iso → sloooow

Allan

16:00

@all any webmins about

Marco Ceppi

@Allan Hello

Questions Feed

What is "the star" communicating in Synaptic? http://askubuntu.com/questions/62557/what-is-the-star-communicating-in-synaptic #synaptic

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on September 22, 2011 at 4:01 PM

Allan

16:17

@MarcoCeppi am I surprised "the webmin"

Marco Ceppi

Define "Webmin"?

Allan

@MarcoCeppi someone who knows a lot more about web related things than me

Which could be quite a lot of people

Marco Ceppi

hah, okay - I know a decent amount of web related stuff (I'm a linux sys admin)

Allan

css and js gzip any point or over the top?

Marco Ceppi

@Allan Never over the top, strongly recommend it.

I gzip compress everything I can when sending it via HTTP

nitstorm

16:23

@MarcoCeppi why gzip particularly?

any specific reason? or any compression would suffice?

Marco Ceppi

Plain text compresses really well

@nitstorm It's just what Apache does, I haven't really used any other compression method - ~~not sure if it supports bz2~~ it doesn't.

nitstorm

That's neat :)

Allan

@MarcoCeppi How do you tell your site to zip css and js is it a php function or apache

?

Marco Ceppi

You can compress streams via Apache or PHP The Apache method is far more recommended considering it's really a server modification and doesn't belong in PHP so much.

With Apache you just setup mod_deflate and let it know what mime-types need to be compressed

An alternative to gzipping (or something you can do with gzipping) is to minify your CSS and JS files

Allan

@MarcoCeppi which file should you update the mime-types htaccess?

@MarcoCeppi chrome says its already minify..ed <--- :)

Marco Ceppi

16:32

I think you can do it in the .htaccess file - you can also set it up per VirtualHost or globally in the mod_deflate config file

Allan

Sounds like Austin Powers

Marco Ceppi

so, you should just need to a2enmod deflate then, if you have to, edit /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/deflate.conf

That'll modify the rules globally

by default, text/(html|plain|xml|css), application(*javascript|rss+xml) are compressed

Allan

@MarcoCeppi I'm not sure where to edit that I don't know if I have access to it I'm using cpanel

Marco Ceppi

@Allan oh, you're using cPanel

Make a new file somewhere, add this code <?php phpinfo(); ?> then upload and execute

phpinfo(); should show you the Apache modules and if mod_deflate is running. If it's not you'll have to yell at your host for being stupid and not having it enabled by default

Allan

@MarcoCeppi ok just a tick

Roland Taylor

16:44

anyone on XFCE?

htorque

installer doesn't recognize win 8 yet, but manual install works fine

Marco Ceppi

interesting

Allan

@MarcoCeppi deflate is listed in environment and php variables

Marco Ceppi

@Allan Then it should already be compressing your streams

Allan

so where would I add the css and js mime types?

or would I have to ask the host?

Marco Ceppi

16:57

I should already be setup to compress those streams (or else, why the hell would they have it enabled?) What makes you think it's not already being compressed?

Well, maybe it is disabled. You can be sure by adding this to your htaccess

<ifModule mod_gzip.c>
  mod_gzip_on Yes
  mod_gzip_dechunk Yes
  mod_gzip_item_include file \.(html?|txt|css|js|php|pl)$
  mod_gzip_item_include handler ^cgi-script$
  mod_gzip_item_include mime ^text/.*
  mod_gzip_item_include mime ^application/x-javascript.*
  mod_gzip_item_exclude mime ^image/.*
  mod_gzip_item_exclude rspheader ^Content-Encoding:.*gzip.*
</ifModule>

George Edison

Someone had a Windows 8 question?

Alvar

what what?! Was I needed?

Allan

@MarcoCeppi is that a per sub-domain

Amith KK

BBL

Alvar

@AmithKK did you want something? got a notification, ask me on g+ if you want a quick response! :D

George Edison

17:06

@htorque: What's up?

Marco Ceppi

@Allan If you put that in your home folder it'll apply to all your sites. htaccess rules work be starting at the directory called and working it's way out until a file is found.

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi: Could we possibly see Ondina by the end of this month?

Allan

@MarcoCeppi ok

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison I hope so, there is still plenty of more to get done. I've decided to hold off on a solid date until we can take care of everything that needs completion.

George Edison

Oh... last I heard you weren't even considering SSDs for the initial launch.

Roland Taylor

17:09

@GeorgeEdison solid date :D

(don't worry I read solid state myself :P)

o/ Takkat

Marco Ceppi

haha :)

Takkat

Hi everybody ;)

Marco Ceppi

I'll have a video out tonight (small, maybe 1 minute) on how the email section will work. Which means there's only one video left until the control panel is ready to ship :)

George Edison

What? Oh, solid date.

I can't read today.

Marco Ceppi

I want to launch as soon as humanly possible, way too excited with all the work that's gone into it

htorque

17:24

@GeorgeEdison i did? i cannot remember :D

@GeorgeEdison one thing: did you need to install network drivers in win 8?

George Edison

17:36

Nope.

I sure needed to install graphics drivers though.

htorque

damn

wireless doesn't work here

i totally forgot about the joy of installing drivers oO

George Edison

What network card do you have?

htorque

it's an intel 6300 something

Ultimate-N 6300

download drivers in ubuntu, share a folder, install drivers, activate windows, bla bla bla

yeah, welcome to windows :>

George Edison

I have an Intel WiFi Link 4965 AGN and it recognized it right away.

htorque

yeah, that's one genration older, but it's not like the Ultimate-N 6300 is that new...

it specifically told me that it has no driver for the network adapter

also - how will 1024x600 display users use windows? applications didn't open until i set the resolution to 1024x768 :D but ok, that's an ubuntu channel - i'll shut up. :D

George Edison

17:50

Really? Everything worked for me when I had the resolution set to 800x600.

htorque

weird, did you install it in a VM?

jrg

18:19

@htorque Load the Windows "recovery environment" option in grub - it'll work.

htorque

i know :)

Marco Ceppi

<3 to anyone who has any idea about this

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Q: Single server, multiple users, each with his own virtual machine

Our school system has a low budget to update our computers, so I've thought maybe I could buy only one server (a powerful one) and hookup 30 students to one server. On the server should be 30 Ubuntu virtual machines, each controlled by a different keyboard and mouse + individual monitor. I've l...

server virtual-machine multiple-workstations multiple-users

Jorge Castro

userful.com

it's called "multiseat X" if you want to google

George Edison

@JorgeCastro I thought multiseat ran each instance on the bare metal?

I prefer using a VM to obtain the same results.

In fact, I just did it the other day.

I attached an extra mouse, monitor, and keyboard and assigned them all to the VM.

Jorge Castro

I don't know much about it

George Edison

18:30

Presto! 2 computers in one... although performance is not perfect.

Jorge Castro

I know that company is in that space, that's about it

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison That doesn't scale :)

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi Using a VM? Yeah, I know.

It was only so we could play a game with some other people.

It's not terribly useful for too much else.

Marco Ceppi

I tried this a while ago - I setup one of my 8core 18GB ram servers with two ATI video cards so that my girlfriend and I could have one computer for the both of us - but I couldn't really get the VMs to properly xforward everything

George Edison

...but for the game we were playing, it allowed us to have one more player than we otherwise would have had.

Marco Ceppi

18:31

So I just gave up - wasn't really worth the time investment

George Edison

So you went with multiseat?

Marco Ceppi

No, I just bought her a new computer

George Edison

(I tried that too but the configuration was such a mess that I gave up.)

Marco Ceppi

It was way easier. I never heard of mult-seat

Jorge Castro

I would just go LTSP + AWS.

Marco Ceppi

18:32

I'm interested in this idea, because I know someone trying to setup an internet cafe would would want something like this

George Edison

You never heard before or you've never even heard until now?

@MarcoCeppi From a technical point of view, it's just basically two X screens (IIRC) and two logged on users.

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison Never heard of it until now

George Edison

I'll get you a picture.

Marco Ceppi

Right, I read the wiki page :)

George Edison

That reminds me...

...now that I'm back on Windows for a bit, I should plug in my mini USB monitor.

Marco Ceppi

18:36

Oh, man. New mod feature!

> Convert to edit

> Answers should be converted to an edit of the question when they represent additional/supporting information by the asker. The body of the answer is appended to the question.

2

<3

George Edison

Lemme check that out.

It's greyed out.

Marco Ceppi

Well, it's only for users who post answers on their own questions

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi haha

I did once xD

jrg

@GeorgeEdison example: askubuntu.com/questions/62300/how-do-i-install-wunderlist

Alvar

no one of the comments had the courage to do it themselves :D

George Edison

18:39

Ah, I see.

Hmmm... good one Windows - you didn't even offer to download drivers for me :P

Marco Ceppi

brilliant

jrg

Don't click any of those buttons plorx? :P

Marco Ceppi

George Edison

Oh great:

Wonderful.

jrg

@MarcoCeppi Hehe.

George Edison

18:42

...and that's the latest version on the website.

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi you are way to bored. have you stopped working on Ondina? ;)

@GeorgeEdison When I couldn't reach the internet on my Asus it told me to visit the online support! that the best! :D

Marco Ceppi

Nope, I'm on a conference call. So I have time to kill. It's easy to waste time in chat - harder to write code.

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi I know...

George Edison

@Alvar Yeah, that's easy to do :P

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi waiting for a friend to come back to skype! :D

@GeorgeEdison yeah, windows is really clever. It might be that the system mocks me for not be able to reach the internet, that's some sick humor. GJ microsoft.

George Edison

18:45

Thankfully I can make the program think it's on an earlier version of Windows.

Let's hope nothing breaks.

Alvar

@GeorgeEdison I want that, so I can play command & conquer 1! the one and only great

George Edison

Oh great. It doesn't work.

Alvar

@GeorgeEdison what ever does in windows?

George Edison

I'm uninstalling these drivers and digging up the ones that came with it.

Alvar

@GeorgeEdison isn't it easier to run it in a VM?

George Edison

18:52

No.

Alvar

ok....

George Edison

Trying the beta driver now...

George Edison

19:11

THAT WAS TERRIBLE!!

My main screen went completely blank and I had to perform a hard reset.

Uninstall, uninstall, uninstall...

Questions Feed

Accidentally unchecked Unity in system settings - blank desktop? http://askubuntu.com/questions/62576/accidentally-unchecked-unity-in-system-settings-blank-desktop #unity

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on September 22, 2011 at 7:01 PM

jrg

Oh yes, happy hobbit day folks.

htorque

19:43

no thanks :P

Roland Taylor

20:13

happy what?

BTW... anyone know of a sexy editor :D?

There's a guy looking for one :D

(we get all types...)

Marco Ceppi

Geany

Nothing more sexy than functional

Roland Taylor

Freeze!

Melt at the cuteness, you know you want to.

-1

Q: Sexy and Clean Editor

Does one of you know a sexy and clean editor? Most of them look very fuzzy on me, well, i thing ubuntu in a general sense looks very fuzzy. Does anyone know why? Well, i can't really tell you how i mean it, but if have a look at windows, OSX and gnome or kde, both of them seems very fuzzy, the...

gnome interface

Btw this is the question, and it needs to be closed :)

George Edison

20:39

Argh... Google Docs is acting up.

Oh :P Nvm... it was Chrome that was acting up.

Roland Taylor

21:01

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Q: I cannot create ad-hoc wireless networks and stay connected. How can I fix this?

I'm on 11.10, and no wireless networks I create are staying connected. I had created one called "cookie" many moons ago, then deleted it some time after upgrading to 11.10. Strangely, that network showed up today, after applying some updates, yet the system still will not remain connected to any...

networking wireless network-manager 11.10 adhoc

:'( can I get some love?

George Edison

Wow... PHP namespaces are ugly.

Marco Ceppi

Heh, that's why I don't use them

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi What do you use?

Is there something that can be used to separate a set of classes from the global scope?

Marco Ceppi

Not that I know of, I just use autoloaders and an expected directory format

George Edison

@MarcoCeppi What version of PHP is Ondina going to run?

Marco Ceppi

21:10

5.3 - whatever the latest is in the Ubuntu repos

George Edison

Okay.

I ask because a lot of hosts still use the 5.2.x series.

Marco Ceppi

naw, that's not how we roll.

You get the latest and greatest from the Ubuntu repos

George Edison

Sweet.

Questions Feed

22:06

Bounty offered: Where is the user's profile picture stored in Gnome 3? http://askubuntu.com/questions/61637/where-is-the-users-profile-picture-stored-in-gnome-3 #filesystem

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on September 22, 2011 at 10:01 PM

Roland Taylor

@Explorer late to the party, but welcome

Mark Russell

22:33

George Edison

22:47

Does anyone know how to access an element of an array in TI-BASIC on the TI-83?

lazyPower

isnt it just parenthesis notation?

variable(x)

George Edison

Ah, right.

Thanks.

lazyPower

23:13

np

Marco Ceppi

@MarkRussell hum?

jrg

Protip: It is possible to switch from unity 2d to 3d without logging out, but not vice-versa.

George Edison

23:29

Really? That's interesting.

jrg

23:41

Yeah, unity --replace, then you have to kill all the unity 2d processes (launcher, dash, panel and something else)

Mark Russell

23:54

@MarcoCeppi oh someone had asked about php (granted, an hour before). thought it was interesting that it's been 5.3 since lucid.

Marco Ceppi

yup

Mark Russell

i guess when he says "a lot of hosts are 5.2" he means cent/rh. :)

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