The Whiteboard

user41796

8:00 PM

Back to whinging about resumes.... I'm reviewing one where the author clearly targeted being able to pass through the buzzword filters of automatic checkers

Ampt

yeah there is an eSata version of Sata 6.0Gb so it can hit that as well

that said, I'd still take usb3.0 over esata just for adoption

user41796

I think I've got 5 or 6 USB3 ports on the new Dell vs 1 e-Sata....

Ampt

laptop?

E6530?

user41796

M4800

Ampt

I thought mine was a brick... jeez

did you get the 3200x1800 option?

user41796

8:08 PM

No, 1920 x 1080. I wasn't given the choice.

user41796

But given how underwhelmed I've been by their monitors, I likely would have passed.

Ampt

... what?

underwhelmed by dell monitors?

user41796

Previous laptop of theirs that I had came with a wretchedly bad monitor

user41796

Keep in mind that my employer does not splurge on laptop monitors

Ampt

their ultrasharp line is pretty much the de-facto standard for professional monitors (if you're outside of the mac-fan-zone that is)

user41796

8:09 PM

so I'm sure we've got the lowest quality possible that is offered.

Ampt

ah, maybe that's what it was

the ultrasharps are like 400->1000 each

depending on size

user41796

For any of the folk doing CAD or graphics work, they get desktops + dedicated monitors

Ampt

yeah, those are the guys with those monitors

Ampt

8:21 PM

EXTERMINATE!!!!

user20683

@Ampt what? I see nothing there.

user55340

@Ampt gone already.

Ampt

I didn't even get to finish my snarky comment

user20683

@Ampt What did I say about snark?

user55340

(I'm having 'fun' watching another round of drama on MSO of NAA and what should be deleted.)

user55340

8:23 PM

The Hunting of the Snark

The Hunting of the Snark (An Agony in 8 Fits) is typically categorized as a nonsense poem written by Lewis Carroll, the pen name of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson. Written from 1874 to 1876, the poem borrows the setting, some creatures, and eight portmanteau words from Carroll's earlier poem "Jabberwocky" in his children's novel Through the Looking Glass (1871). Henry Holiday, the illustrator of the poem, thought of it as a "tragedy". The plot follows a crew of ten trying to hunt the Snark, an animal which may turn out to be a highly dangerous Boojum. The only one of the crew to find the Snark quickly...

Ampt

@WorldEngineer Uhh... that we need... more?

user55340

You should hunt for it.

user20683

@Ampt >.>

Ampt

That it's ok as long as I don't hit enter?

user55340

> As to the meaning of the Snark? I'm very much afraid I didn't mean anything but nonsense!

user20683

8:25 PM

@Ampt or return

user20683

@Ampt Too much?

Ampt

@WorldEngineer Or was it "Post it from an anonymous account"

user55340

> You may charge me with singletons — or want of sense -
(we are all of us weak at times):
But the slightest approach to a false pretense
was never among my crimes!

I said it in Pascal — I said it in Basic —
I said it in Java and C:
But I wholly forgot (and it makes me sick)
That Python is what you speak!

user55340

(and that was pure snark... (from Fit the Fourth: The Hunting))

psr

8:40 PM

@MichaelT Maybe replace C with "squeek"?

I love the hunting of the snark. It should be required reading for project managers.

user55340

Meanwhile... having fun watching this over on MSO:

user55340

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Q: Deleted comments

Earlier today, I left a couple of comments on this question pointing out a couple of security problems with what this user was doing. They seem to have been deleted. Any idea why? Was it automatic?

user55340

9:23 PM

Or read up here: programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/204757/… Please note, while that question answers your question it has also been closed because it is not a good fit for the site. — GlenH7 10 mins ago

user55340

@GlenH7 we should consider cleaning up the answers in that post and getting it locked... while its not a good post today, its one that might be viable as a canonical dup target.

user41796

Not a bad idea at all

user41796

I was looking for the "How do I know I'm learning a language right" question but couldn't find it.

user41796

granted, I didn't search that hard either

user55340

@GlenH7 after that meh question on ArrayList and HashMap today I'm thinking of doing a super-self answered "the quick and dirty of common Java collections".

user41796

9:27 PM

That seems like it could be expanded to quite a few Q&A

user55340

I'm going to apologize to @RobertHarvey for forking some MSO drama, but George suggested it first.

user55340

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Q: What constitutes an answer?

A fairly consistent question that gets raised on MSO is what constitutes an answer. This takes several forms: Why was my NAA flag declined? (example) These comments should have been an answer. (example) answers that appear to address the question. (example) This appears to be related to a he...

discussion answers comments not-an-answer

user41796

Enjoy the completely invisible unicorn poo

user55340

(one 'fun' bit on this is that since I didn't write it as a devil's advocate post because I can't find the dup... if it gets sufficiently uprooted, it will show up on the hot meta posts on SO... which drives an absurd feedback loop)

user55340

9:44 PM

@GlenH7 btw, if you could coast some delete votes in programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/204757/… and also glance at my edit to see if there is more that needs to be done to it.

Phrancis

Hello, quick question we were wondering on CR... Would this be on-topic for Programmers?

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Q: REST API Design Patterns

I'm looking for a design review of this simple REST API: https://github.com/singularsyntax/CPAN-Net-BGP-REST#rest-api General feedback is appreciated, as well as on these specifics: Use of this format for a multi-component "primary key": thisId=<IP Address>;thisAs=<integer AS number>;peerId=<...

design-patterns api rest

user55340

@Phrancis it lacks sufficient information in the post to be a good question here in its current state.

user41796

@MichaelT On the three down voted answers, right?

user55340

@GlenH7 yep.

user41796

@MichaelT I accidentally dropped one on the question itself

user41796

9:48 PM

If it gets deleted, let me know and I'll vote to re-open

user20683

@Phrancis These is good yes? questions tend to fair poorly here

Phrancis

They do pretty much everywhere on SE, it seems...

user55340

@Phrancis the big problem on non-code review is that we're really not well equipped to handle questions of "all the answers are right" - we've got enough problems with that as it is.

user55340

And so, an arbitrary "design review" post that doesn't focus on a specific problem area... those get messy and don't encourage answers of the quality that we'd like to see on all the other posts.

Phrancis

I can see that would become frustrating.

user55340

9:52 PM

If the entire site is designed around "doing reviews" and that is the expected quality and context, it can do it (and it has... congrats on the graduation over there). But we'd really rather not get answers of "I like XYZ and think ABC would be frustrating to use"

Robert Harvey

@MichaelT People seem to have a talent for enormously overcomplicating NAA, but NAA is actually quite simple. Not an Answer: comments, attempts to communicate with another user, new questions, and edits to the OP. That's it.

user55340

btw, if you want to piss @Ampt off have him read the tour on Math.SE... the "With your help, we're working together to build a library of detailed answers to every question about math." should get him raging.

user55340

@RobertHarvey that appears to not match the "how to answer" in the help center.

user41796

@WorldEngineer - is this question picking up a lot of flags? I see a lot of not-answering-the-question crud floating around in there along with references to apparently now deleted comments.

user55340

> Read the question carefully. What, specifically, is the question asking for? Make sure your answer provides that - or a viable alternative.

user20683

9:55 PM

@GlenH7 Maybe

Robert Harvey

@MichaelT How to Answer doesn't address Not an Answer. The NAA flag does, however. It should possibly be an edit, a comment, another question, or deleted altogether.

user20683

I can't discuss things like that

user20683

@GlenH7 remember, due diligence :)

user41796

Absolutely. Strikes me as a lot of noise with hand-waving and not a lot of signal.

user55340

(side bit... if you're in a meta argument with me, don't let me frame the argument... you know I'm a reasonable writer and letting me frame the argument forces you to answer in the context that I've set up... which I will write to favor my position - in the "what is an answer" post, I'm framing it as "allowing these answers and encouraging answers rather than comments for things that aren't answers pushes SO closer to being a forum.")

user41796

10:00 PM

@MichaelT I prefer to just avoid arguing with you to begin with....

user41796

10:33 PM

This question appears to be off-topic because it is about a hypothetical example that the OP wants a legal interpretation of in order to resolve it. Hypothetical questions are discouraged in the don't ask section, and answering this question requires legal knowledge outside of the community's expertise. — GlenH7 53 secs ago

user41796

^^^ Additional considerations for VTC are welcome.

Phrancis

Do you guys have a meta post about the memes on Programmers.SE?

user41796

@Phrancis Fun is strictly not allowed here, sorry.

user41796

But no, we don't. :-)

Phrancis

lol ok.

user41796

10:37 PM

I think the one on the old MSO only worked because the old MSO was so big

user20683

@Phrancis Memes of X tend to be older and thus "grandfathered in"

user20683

@GlenH7 Arqade has one too

user20683

though they are mostly old memes from 2011 or so

user41796

Well that's because they're cooler than us - they're PRO gamers after all... :-)

Phrancis

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Q: What's a Zombie? And what are the many other memes of Code Review?

What is a Zombie? Why are Code Reviewers so violent and talking about killing Zombies all the time? And what ammo are they talking about? What is a TS? What does RSA mean? And what other Code Review-specific memes are there? (As the number of memes grows and grows, and Malachi's wish to vote fo...

discussion fun

This all started about a year ago ^^

user41796

10:39 PM

@Phrancis Oh Man! Progs is so behind the times...

user20683

I think most of our memes are Whiteboard

user20683

if you can even call them that

user41796

True. Our meta tends to be fairly quiet it seems

user15026

@WorldEngineer Yeah, we stopped updating most of it :P

user20683

@GlenH7 Our meta is strictly business.

2

user20683

10:44 PM

:)

user15026

(is that another way to say you are boring? :P)

2

user55340

@AshleyNunn remember... we can avoid wearing pants. We are not boring.

user15026

That's true, at my job I have to wear pants EVERY DAY (okay, no, I can wear skirts, but I dont like them.)

user55340

@RobertHarvey is still at a latitude where wearing pants is optional.

user55340

My question is no longer "pants?" but "how many layers" where layers > 2.

user41796

10:47 PM

At Employer^^^ (or was it ^^^^?) we could wear shorts & t-shirts during the summer. One of the perks of being in the SW despite working for a Fortune 10 firm.

user55340

@GlenH7 Employer^^ had a "no shorts" policy unless you were working in the yard (i.e.: forklifts).

user15026

The most we get is capris in hte summer if htey arent denim

user41796

@MichaelT For current employer, I actually had to purchase dress slacks & a jacket for the potential client presentation. Blech. Most of the time we're corporate casual at work, which is good enough.

Phrancis

11:03 PM

Good night @Programmers thanks for the ~~fun~~ information!

user41796

@Phrancis yw. Glad to have you drop by

user55340

@GlenH7 When visiting the store, yes, we had to be in accordance with dress code policy. But locked away in a pole barn with no customer facing time 99% of the time.

user55340

For added fun, we were also sharing the building with a wholly owned subsidiary that had a different dress code (you may wear headphones if not in an area where power equipment is in use, you may wear shorts in the summer, etc...). That caused a little bit of tension with the stricter dress code that we had to follow.

user15026

My work is super dress code loving

user15026

which I guess makes some sense, I dunno

user20683

11:08 PM

@AshleyNunn Finance related things usually are

user15026

@WorldEngineer Yeah, and I work for a giant multinational, so....

user15026

11:55 PM

@MichaelT I started reading Celebromancy today (and might be halfway through it because yay long commute)

user55340

@AshleyNunn yea fan girl s... umm... scenes.

user55340

(struck through s doesn't look that different than a regular s)

user15026

@MichaelT I was not expecting that, can't say I minded....

user15026

Although smoochmoeba or however that was spelled made me crack up

user55340

I'm still amused at bromancy and furrymancy.

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