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tchrist

3:02 AM

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Alas, poor crappy SE fonts.

Can't even ban trolls.

"\N{JAPANESE GOBLIN}\N{COMBINING ENCLOSING CIRCLE BACKSLASH}"

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Dummies.

"\N{SMOKING SYMBOL}\N{COMBINING ENCLOSING CIRCLE BACKSLASH}"

Time to throw them under the combine.

I wonder there is a meta-emoji — that is, an emoji that means any emoji?

Alas poor ℲℲ! He didn’t realize recognize the irony in my title.

Why am I up? I went to bed hours ago.

In Master and Commander, is there ever a difference between who the ship’s master is and who her commander is?

Perhaps when the owner of record does not have the required master’s licence?

Maybe then the owner would have to hire a master to captain the ship.

Master (naval)

The master, or sailing master, was a historic term for a naval officer trained in and responsible for the navigation of a sailing vessel. The rank can be equated to a professional seaman and specialist in navigation, rather than as a military commander. In the British Royal Navy, the master was a warrant officer who ranked with, but after, the lieutenants and was eventually renamed to navigating lieutenant in 1867. When the United States Navy was formed in 1794, master was listed as one of the warrant officer ranks and ranked between midshipmen and lieutenants. The rank was also a commissioned...

> This article is about naval rank. For masters of non-military nautical vessels, see Sea captain and Master Mariner. For the naval rank Master and Commander, see Commander.

> Commander is a rank used in navies but is very rarely used as a rank in armies (except in special forces where it designates the team leader). The title (originally "master and commander")[1] originated in the 18th century to describe naval officers who commanded ships of war too large to be commanded by a Lieutenant but too small to warrant the assignment of a post-captain and (before about 1770) a sailing-master; the commanding officer served as his own Master.

I see.

Master sergeant

A master sergeant is the military rank for a senior non-commissioned officer in some armed forces. == Israel Defense Forces == The רב-סמל ראשון rav samal rishon (abbreviated: "rasar") (master sergeant) is a non-commissioned officer (נגדים) rank in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). Because the IDF is an integrated force, they have a unique rank structure. IDF ranks are the same in all services (army, navy and air force). The ranks are derived from those of the paramilitary Haganah developed in the British Mandate of Palestine period to protect the Yishuv. This origin is reflected in the slightly...

We need butt a mistress sergeant to complete the strange loop.

Not to be confused with a sergeant’s mistress, but of course.

I get a kick out of people who name their children with ranks.

Like Judge Justice.

William Wayne Justice

William Wayne Justice (February 25, 1920 – October 13, 2009) was an American jurist. He served as a United States District Judge for the Eastern District of Texas and a Senior United States District Judge for the United States District Court for the Western District of Texas. == Early life == Justice was born in 1920 in Athens, Texas. He received his undergraduate and law degrees from the University of Texas, graduating from its School of Law in 1942. He joined the U.S. Army and served in India during World War II. In 1946, he began practicing law in Athens with his father, who was known as a voice...

NOTE CAREFULLY: Justice was born in Athens — and died in Texas.

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It’s like people who give their children a forename of Lord.

Mitch

3:30 AM

Or Lourdes

tchrist

There was a 19th century American poet, negro I believe, whose first name is Lord and whose last name is something sufficiently British-sounding as to confuse the casual reader,

I mentioned him on the main site a week or two ago, but cannot now recall his full name.

Or maybe it was in here. Hm.

Should be findable.

Mitch

Lord Jim?

Lordon Wainwright, Esq?

tchrist

Not Jim.

Memorable though it be.

Neither on Wikipedia’s 19th- nor 20th-century American Poets lists. Damn it.

Just think of John Major’s mum had named him Sergeant instead.

Apparently Ensign is a surname.

I think Senator would be a terrible name for a young man.

Although the jury’s still out on Senatrix for a young woman.

Just call her Trixie for short.

Apparently Dixie is an English surname of ancient pedigree.

> The Dixie twins, christened Richard and Meretrix, were otherwise known by their friends — and enemies.

I wonder whether a pedigree is something you have to walk a long ways to earn.

Tomorrow is the company Thanksgiving banquet. It will be interesting to see how they answer the cranberry question.

I wonder whether anyone every mistook Rex Harrison for a dog?

tchrist

4:00 AM

I cannot for the live of me get

"t\N{COMBINING DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ESH}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R WITH HOOK}\N{MODIFIER LETTER SMALL W}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA}\N{COMBINING TILDE}\N{LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP}n\N{COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW}"

to look good on ELU, and I don't know why.

macbook% perl -CS -le 'print "t\N{COMBINING DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ESH}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R WITH HOOK}\N{MODIFIER LETTER SMALL W}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA}\N{COMBINING TILDE}\N{LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP}n\N{COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW}"'
t͡ʃɻʷɑ̃ʔn̩

See what I mean?

Why is that happening?

It looks just fine here.

% perl -CS -le 'print "t\N{COMBINING DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ESH}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R WITH HOOK}\N{MODIFIER LETTER SMALL W}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA}\N{COMBINING TILDE}\N{LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP}n\N{COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW}"' | perl -CS -nle 'print $1 while /(\X)/g'
t͡
ʃ
ɻ
ʷ
ɑ̃
ʔ
n̩

Interesting that the double combining mark doesn't make the t and the esh and the breve all one grapheme.

I wonder if it should go after the esh not the t?

% perl -CS -le 'print "t\N{COMBINING DOUBLE INVERTED BREVE}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ESH}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER TURNED R WITH HOOK}\N{MODIFIER LETTER SMALL W}\N{LATIN SMALL LETTER ALPHA}\N{COMBINING TILDE}\N{LATIN LETTER GLOTTAL STOP}n\N{COMBINING VERTICAL LINE BELOW}"' | perl -CS -nle 'print $1 while /(\p{Grapheme_Base}\p{Diacritic}*)/g'
t͡
ʃ
ɻʷ
ɑ̃
ʔ
n̩

Not much help.

But it did get the superscript w that way.

houseofnames.com/dixie-family-crest

Hugo

7:54 AM

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Q: Was the blue screen of death ever just a blue screen?

Etymologically speaking, at least according to Wikipedia, the term Blue Screen of Death: originated during OS/2 pre-release development activities at Lattice Inc, the makers of an early Windows and OS/2 C compiler. During porting of Lattice's other tools, developers encountered the stop ...

Re-open this etymology question?

Matt Эллен

10:44 AM

@Hugo consider it done.

Matt Эллен

11:47 AM

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