The Bridge

2:15 PM

@Lazers play em...

@Rapitor You expect people to play a game to learn how to play it? Like actually not be awesome on second 1?

@Arperum You mean my D3 Monk can't do a million DPS at level 1? This game sucks!

@Frank That's not at all the same thing

@Unionhawk It's also hyperbole.

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I feel this is important for those that like to do retro gaming on modern TVs.

@Frank Now I'm thinking of some dumb rant i saw back in the days of the auctionhouse and the patch that shot +% attackspeed in the nerfbucket.

"I bought stuff with +% attackspeed for $300 total, after you said you'd retroactively nerf it, and now it's worthless. I want my money back!"

2:28 PM

@Arperum To be fair, that's a rather legitimate complaint.

@Frank No it isn't.

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@Frank Yes, but it is still not the same thing.

@Arperum How not? A guy bought an item as advertised, and then said item was no longer what he bought.

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@Frank If he was told it was going to be nerfed and did it anyhow, then it is his problem.

It's blizzard... It's pointless arguing about money with them :P

2:29 PM

"I bought stuff with +% attackspeed for $300 total, after you said you'd retroactively nerf it, and now it's worthless. I want my money back!"

@OrigamiRobot Ok, I totally missed that word.

I tell you "Next week I'm going to nerf the shit out of +% att, including on everything that already exists". You react by spending a shitton of money on +% att stuff. And then come to me "I want my money back"

Yup, that's complete buyer lunacy.

@OrigamiRobot I just assumed it wasn't an exact quote but exaggeration for effect.

I figured he just hadn't known about the nerf.

2:30 PM

Just like you see on Not Always Right and its sister sites.

@Wipqozn You are getting a bit of a skewed picture; focused more on the negatives and less on the positives. For instance, I got to introduce my son to Ocarina of Time last weekend.

I'm dead certain the buying was done knowing perfectly well that it wouldget nerfed. As in: the guy said so himself in his rant.

@Arperum And probably figured if he put up enough of a stink, Blizzard would refund him to shut him up.

And paying $300 for any item in a $50 game is stupid anyway.

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@JasonBerkan What did he think?

2:31 PM

One of my friends quit D3 forever because he spent real money on the first iteration of some legendary, even after I told him that they were buffing new legendaries but not retroactively buffing the one he was about to buy, and he got pissed.

:(

@Arperum By that logic, paying for any item in an F2P game is stupid.

@Powerlord correct!

@Frank IIRC there was no reaction from Blizz in that topic, only people laughing with the raging moron.

@MattЭллен Except if everyone did that, the game would shut down.

@AshleyNunn He liked it, though he tried to play it like a LEGO game by mashing the attack button. I forgot about the skull spiders in the tree, so while he was playing, I had one of my younger sons curled up in a ball on my lap.

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2:33 PM

@MattЭллен I hate judgements like this. If I like said F2P game, why can't I spend money on it without someone going hurrr durrr u so dumb wasting your money

@Powerlord If said items can be gotten through regular play and break the balance, then yes.

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@JasonBerkan I never liked the skull spiders. They always unnerved me.

@JasonBerkan DID HE MAKE IT TO THE SKULLTULLA HOUSE?

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@OrigamiRobot That place gives me the heebie jeebies

@OrigamiRobot No; just the ones in the Deku tree right at the beginning.

2:34 PM

If it's like PoE, where you can buy cosmetic stuff, (and more storage/character slots, but you have quite a bit to start with anyway)

THANK GOODNESS

@Arperum Sadly, logic isn't always in play. Especially when the emotional part of the brain gets engaged.

@OrigamiRobot that's serious nightmare fuel

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@FAE Agreed.

Yay for setting permission of some .dll in system32 to "everyone has full control" because otherwise it doesn't work...

2:36 PM

I've spent real money on cosmetic stuff in LoL.

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I don't regret it.

I can't understand people who spent real money on Diablo 3, though.

Other than the initial purchase price, obviously.

the skulltula house on ocarina 3d is even worse

I spent around 5000 CHF on LoL... (roughly 4500$)

@Jutschge wat

2:37 PM

@Jutschge Uh...I spent like $20-$30.

all cosmetic but I'm always thinking: the game runs because of ppl like me who spend money on a F2p game

@StrixVaria I approve of this, cosmetic stuff is an awesome way to get money, people who want can buy it and support you that way, but get no real in-game advantage besides visual stuff.

@StrixVaria I love stuff like my Blackthorn Morgana skin. No regrets.

well I play the game since 5 years and I have about 6000 total games played^^

I've spent money on cosmetics in TF2.

2:38 PM

@Jutschge That's just a bit overkill.

@Jutschge Damn.

Then again, this is for a game I've clocked over 5000 hours in.

That's a car

Buying cosmetics = good, PayToWin = bad.

@fredley For those of you without kids, maybe.

2:39 PM

@JasonBerkan For those with, it's a used car!

@Arperum I like buying cosmetics as long as they're permanent. Some Korean MMOs do stuff like "buy this skin but it only lasts for 7 days" and I'm less so a fan of that.

@fredley heck, it's 2 used cars

@FAE GUNBOUND

I wonder how much that money would be worth now if it had been invested in stock...

@Arperum Well in LoL the only thing that actually could be classified as Pay2Win is Exp or IP boosts... and those aren't really P2W

2:39 PM

My last car was 10x that.

@Powerlord probably for the best.

Everyone in here is richer than me

@Jutschge Yeah, they're not really, even if you're under 30.

@JasonBerkan my current car which fits 5 was slightly less than 2000

$4500 is definitely a used car. I can't think of any new car in that range

2:40 PM

Euros though

@AshleyNunn why can't I have an opinion about something without people complaining? becaues that's what people with opinions do

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@FAE Yeah, I'd like that less.

So... 2650$?

@FAE I think I bought an EXP boost once for a smurf... but it's no huge difference somehow

@Unionhawk You can get new cars in the ~£5000 range here

2:41 PM

@fredley Hax

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@MattЭллен Aye, I get that (obviously), I am just tired of the "If you spend money in a f2p game you obviously have no idea what you are doing" sort of attitude.

> 5000 British Pound Sterling equals 8295.75 US Dollar

@KevinvanderVelden I needed a vehicle that could hold 4 car seats. Cars were pretty much out of the question.

I HAVE ~$3000 IN MTG COSMETICS

Ah. Right.

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2:41 PM

I get that is a widespread opinion, but I don't have to love it.

@fredley wow... In switzerland the drivers licence costs between 2500.- and 7500.- CHF

Not quite hax then

@FAE Yea, that's bad. PoE has permanent cosmetics AFAIK.

NOT THAT I PAID THAT MUCH

@AshleyNunn Yeah, some games are "generous" and let you have it for a month, but having a recurring fee for a skin/costume isn't something I'm really up for paying for, myself.

2:42 PM

@FAE Having something for a month is not generous.

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@FAE Not really my thing either. I like things with a bit more permanent value.

@AshleyNunn like houses

@Arperum Hence the air quotes, methinks

@AshleyNunn yeah. I agree people can spend money how they like. I usually don't comment.

@Unionhawk THOSE ARE ACTUAL QUOTES

2:43 PM

@Unionhawk shaddap. I was busy ignoring the sarcasm.

@OrigamiRobot SHH

@FAE You think that's bad? TF2 has daily hats that to get them, you have to be.... The person who bought the most map stamps in the last. The person who won the most duels in the last day (dueling kits costs money and have 5 charges iirc). The person who gave out the most gifts in the last day (cost $0.99 or $20 for 23).

@Arperum 4x longer than a week!

Being daily hats, you have them for just one day.

@FAE They can still die in a fire. A really hot fire.

2:44 PM

Plus, you have no indication if you did enough of whichever one you're trying for to get it.

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@fredley For some people, yeah. I know renting is like a terrible money sink, but I have plans to not be here for much longer than another year or so, and after that things are still going to be nebulous for a while (and I kinda like that).

@Powerlord Yeesh.

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@Powerlord This hurts my brain

Free to play games are where the money is.

2:45 PM

> hats are where the money is.

@FAE Per Diem Perk if you want to know more (I think that's the right link, site is blocked for me)

ftfy

Which sounds dumb but it's true. You get someone invested, then you convince them they need a hat, then it's all downhill.

@AshleyNunn Though house repairs are massive money sinks that renters don't have to deal with.

Batophobia

@Unionhawk Candy Crush is where the money is

2:46 PM

@Powerlord And you only get those for a day even after spending a crapton of money?

@Batophobia Free to play games.

@FAE Yup.

@JasonBerkan Yeah, it's nice to not have to deal with that overhead sometimes.

@Batophobia Candy Crush can also die in a fire.

I do wonder what happens if no one buys map stamps or gives out gifts on a day, though.

Batophobia

2:47 PM

Agreed, but somehow it is popular and thriving

My wife just finished Candy Crush. She didn't spend any money.

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@JasonBerkan Yes. I am going to sink some serious money in that.

I'm actually kinda proud that I have never ever played candy crush

@JasonBerkan She's probably one of the very, VERY few.

@AshleyNunn Yeah, houses aren't for everyone

But I don't even have a real computer at the moment, due to saving for a house

Batophobia

2:48 PM

Candy Crush has an end?

@Frank MOST PEOPLE DON'T ACTUALLY SPEND MONEY ON F2P GAMES

Fun fact: Candy Crush ramps up difficulty faster if you've ever spent money in the game - so it's easier in the long run to not spend money on it.

@OrigamiRobot Most people don't actually finish the game, though.

@Frank She has a theory (which I'm certain is just confirmation bias), that if you bang your head against a level long enough, the game gives you the stuff you need to get past it.

@JasonBerkan Well, that's RNG for you.

2:49 PM

@Unionhawk so wait, it gets harder(punishing you) for paying money?

Today was a pricey day already. €1.5k for fuel for the heating. (I have a feeling I lack words here)

@Frank Exactly.

@Unionhawk I knew it! I've never spent money, but every so often it makes a level I was having trouble on really easy. It even gave me a free ticket (1 of 3) to the next section yesterday

@Arperum Yowch. How long is that supposed to last you?

Also, you always find your keys in the last place you look.

2:49 PM

@JasonBerkan Because you stop looking, therefore, it's the last place you look.

@Frank Don't know really :s should do for this winter. And probably some more. bought 2k litres.

@Arperum What kind of heater do you have?

Here in Canada, everything is natural gas, electric, or for really old places, boilers, I believe.

(You can tell I haven't dealt with boilers)

Out where the turtle lives, some places still use propane.

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@JasonBerkan Aye. That does appeal to me.

@JasonBerkan and propane accessories

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2:52 PM

@fredley Yeah, it's the initial investment on top of everything that is also scary

Pretty much everything here is natural gas because there's a huge pocket of it in the northern part of the Netherlands.

So it's super cheap.

Natural gas is cheaper than electricity here, IIRC.

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@Frank I feel like this isn't true for my parents, but I am not 100% sure what they use to heat.

Out here in the west, we're blessed with Alberta, which means everyone has natural gas.

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I know it used to not be true, but for all I know things have changed.

For cooking at least.

2:53 PM

@Frank It's called "Mazout" here, google translate tells me that that is "fuel oil", that is used to heat water in an (again google translated) oilburner.

And yeah, for heating as well.

There is the option for switching to gas, but that sort of requires infrastructure changes and all that.

@FAE POWER PLANTS OVER THERE ALSO GET GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES FOR GAS, IIRC.

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@Arperum Yikes. I know my parents spent a lot of money last winter on heating too

NOT THAT THAT HAS MUCH TO DO WITH YOUR HEATING

2:54 PM

@OrigamiRobot Not sure if they use gas to power the power plants.

NATURAL GAS IS BIG IN EUROPE

And infrastructure changing costs money, that I currently need for other things. Like completely redoing the electricity, so I have a grounding and stuff.

@AshleyNunn Telling me

And a new roof.

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@fredley Aye, I suspect that's kinda preaching to the choir ;)

2:55 PM

THE LACK OF GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES MAKE IT TOO COST PROHIBITIVE OVER HERE

And a shower/bathroom.

And kitchen.

They've seriously reduced drilling in Groningen though because they've removed so much that the province kind of started... sinking.

@AshleyNunn Yeah, signing the paperwork that put me six digits into debt was kinda horrifying.

@FAE SINKING MORE YOU MEAN

@Frank Oh yes, it is.

2:56 PM

@OrigamiRobot Well... yeah.

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@Frank I can imagine.

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I am not ready to settle anywhere on a permanent basis (possibly ever) so I am like shrugs renting works for me

But at this point, my house has accrued ~50% in value in the last six years, which is a rather decent return on investment, so far.

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Also, a house is just too much space for me.

I have a debt of €110k(+whatever I have to pay on interest) now.

@AshleyNunn Like, you don't need three bedrooms?

2:58 PM

@AshleyNunn Houses come in many shapes, sizes and colours.

@AshleyNunn THE ONLY REASON I WANT A HOUSE IS SO I CAN HAVE A PROJECT ROOM

And you can change the color yourself!

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@JasonBerkan Aye, but like I look at my parents super tiny house and it is still more space than I want

@AshleyNunn Just don't use part of it.

@AshleyNunn I would rattle around by myself in this house. But it's nice I can go, "This wall can come out" or, "I can mount a TV here", and not have to worry about the owner.

2:59 PM

I kind of hate living in an apartment, but having a free-standing house in the area of the Netherlands I live in isn't viable unless I have at least €500k to burn.

Because I am the owner.

Why do I get bouts of existential crisis whenever I have a stomach cramp?

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@Arperum I don't like the idea of paying for space I don't use.

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, I'd love a project room and we need to have a guest bedroom in our next place.

@PrivatePansy because stomach cramp is the worst

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3:00 PM

@Frank Aye, but my needs for things like that aren't so much of a issue or desire for me.

@FAE Gah. I payed 145k for my free standing one (there is a shitton of work on it though)

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@FAE the one thing I do want is a bigger kitchen.

@Arperum Yeah, there's a reason lots of rich Dutch people go over the border into Belgium for nice houses.

@OrigamiRobot My next house will have a lab. Which I define as, "A room where I can work on whatever I want".

@FAE YOU PROBABLY ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH UNFINISHED THINGS TO FILL A PROJECT ROOM

@Frank "AND KEEP THE PETS OUT"

3:01 PM

@Frank I have a spare bedroom for exactly that purpose :D (in 2 months)

THAT'S THE IMPORTANT PART

@OrigamiRobot Not too many, because this apartment is seriously seriously small so I can't even start anything here. :/

@AshleyNunn Meh, it gives options, you can use it for whatever you want. I have my bedroom + guest bedroom + a room that will be renovated first and will then be temporarily my room.

@FAE by you i meant you + jochem

WTF WHY DID CAPSLOCK STOP LOCKING?

Because it hates you

3:03 PM

@OrigamiRobot Oh definitely. I don't know if we'd want to share a workspace though. The combined smells of burning solder and oil painting could be... ungood.

@FAE Mine is rather cheap, even for around here. There are reasons for it though, and I'm finding them one by one...

Hehe sounds like a challenge!

@Arperum Good luck! I'm not that great with electricity/plumbing, but I am really good at interior painting if you ever need help with that!

@FAE SO YOU NEED TWO PROJECT ROOMS

@FAE I'll remember! More help makes the work easier for everyone and loads more fun.

3:06 PM

AAaaaaAAH a month and a week till paper signing day D:

@OrigamiRobot ideally, but dunno if that can happen

@FAE or a single project room with really good ventilation =p

@Arperum Yeah, it's less stressful and it's fun to just paint the whole day with help, then relax with some pizza and beer after or something.

Or maybe it's psychosomatic.

@KevinvanderVelden Painting offer stands for you too!

3:07 PM

@KevinvanderVelden When do you sign exactly? When you are taking a loan, it's best to sign as late in the month as possible.

The stomach cramps happen because I started feeling existentially insignificant

@Arperum friday the 3rd of october

It's like the squirt bottle we use with the cat.

@KevinvanderVelden Because the first month you don't start paying capital of the loan back, just interest, and that kind of feels like a waste.

@Arperum hmm meh, oh well

3:09 PM

The first incomplete month anyway.

And that is deducted on the moment the first real payment is to be made. So prepare for a higher first payment then you expected.

@FAE hehe if you want to help gladly :) - Though there's probably not much that needs doing

As in, it's a new building so most everything I want changed is a matter of taste

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Sometimes I feel weird because I have no plans for house or babies or anything adult and you guys are all doing the adult thing, and I am going hmmm, in a year I will go back to school....

@AshleyNunn So? My aunt went back to school when she was 40.

@AshleyNunn you live on your own, you're already doing adult things =p

And no I did not mean those adult things

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Aye, I just keep going "by my age my mom had a house and 2 kids and a marriage"

3:11 PM

@KevinvanderVelden facedesk

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@KevinvanderVelden laughs

@OrigamiRobot That, too.

Anyway, leaving time. Gonna go donate blood for the first time in my life...

@AshleyNunn I have no plans. I'm trying really hard to have plans. My younger brother is married, owning a house, with a kid on the way. I don't understand how he got there :D

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@Arperum Good luck :)

3:11 PM

@Arperum have fun, don't die!

But I suspect my lab, if I can get it big enough, is going to require hardwood floors as well.

@AshleyNunn IN FEBRUARY I WILL BE 10 YEARS OLDER THAN MY MOM WAS WHEN I WAS BORN

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@MattЭллен Yeah that is just so foreign to me

@MattЭллен Well, when a boy likes a girl...

@JasonBerkan lol

3:12 PM

@KevinvanderVelden ah okay

@Arperum Good luck and yay for you!

@Frank HARDWOOD FLOORS BEST FLOORS

IN ALL ROOMS

time for more geocaching!

I have friends younger than I am (so, 19 turning 20) who already have a kid. They're taking 1 class each right now because of important things. And I'm just here like "what why"

@Arperum NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@OrigamiRobot parquet is an acceptable substitute =p

3:14 PM

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THAT IS

Google translates first option for the dutch word parket

Parquetry

Parquetry is a geometric mosaic of wood pieces used for decorative effect. The two main uses of parquetry are as veneer patterns on furniture and block patterns for flooring. Parquet patterns are entirely geometrical and angular—squares, triangles, lozenges. The most popular parquet flooring pattern is herringbone. (The use of curved and natural shapes constitutes marquetry rather than parquetry.) == History == The word derives from the Old French parchet (the diminutive of parc), literally meaning "a small enclosed space". Large diagonal squares known as parquet de Versailles were introduced in...

And google image search checked out that it was what I meant

@OrigamiRobot I concur. I have gorgeous hardwood floors right now on my main floor.

3:14 PM

But I meant I would need hardwood for the other hobby I tend to do.

@KevinvanderVelden THAT IS A HARDWOOD FLOOR

@Unionhawk more like my image is what I meant

16 secs ago, by Origami Robot

@KevinvanderVelden THAT IS A HARDWOOD FLOOR

@Frank floor skating?

@Rapitor THIS IS THE ONLY REASON SOCKS ARE GOOD

3:15 PM

Parquet is hardwood but smaller pieces laid in a pattern, rather than long strips like a "normal" hardwood floor.

@Rapitor That's one way to describe dancing, I guess.

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Thank you xkcd

@OrigamiRobot aren't hardwoord flooring typically made of, you know, hardwoord. Instead of planks with a very thin hardwoord layer?

@Frank Just be glad no one said "Gigolo"

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD "HARDWOOD" MEANS IN YOUR MIND.

3:18 PM

I'm trying to find a ipcture of a box of what I meant

That is not what I meant

That's what I think of as hardwood flooring, basically solid wood

@KevinvanderVelden Nowadays you can get both, though the latter is called engineered hardwood over here.

Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.

That's the thing I meant

List of sexually active popes

This is a list of sexually active popes, Catholic priests who were sexually active before becoming pope, and popes who were legally married. Some candidates were sexually active before their election as pope, and it has sometimes been claimed that other popes were sexually active during their papacies. Such relationships were undertaken outside the bond of matrimony and broke the vow of chastity. There have been 266 popes. Since 1585, no pope is known to have been sexually active before, during or after election to the Papacy. There are various classifications for those who were sexually active...

So, hardwood, with fiberboard underneath?

3:21 PM

The hardwood facing is a milimeter high or so

@KevinvanderVelden THAT'S ALSO HARDWOOD FLOORING

It's just for looks, the entire structure is the fiberboard

@OrigamiRobot huh ok, afaik in dutch we make a distinction between the two

NiteCyper

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/179950/what-game-is-this Why is this game identification question OK?

@NiteCyper there's an image in it

@KevinvanderVelden IF YOU REALLY WANTED A DISTINCTION, I'D CALL THAT LESS HARDWOOD THAN THE OTHER.

3:22 PM

@OrigamiRobot yeah, in dutch we have a different word for that type (parket as mentioned before) - Hence my confusion :)

Though I guess we also have laminates, though those tend to not actually have hardwood in them.

@JasonBerkan YEA, LAMINATES ARE DIFFERENT.

@KevinvanderVelden OH, THEN NO THAT'S NOT HARDWOOD.

THAT'S A VENEER

Isn't veneer just the layer on top? Or is the whole thing also called something like that

Ooo, spiffy. GOG.com just got a redesign

Also, they're selling movies now. Apparently.

@PrivatePansy are they GOM?

3:28 PM

@KevinvanderVelden THE TOP LAYER IS THE VENEER, BUT THE METHOD IS ALSO CALLED A VENEER

VENEER FLOORING WOULD USE VENEERED WOOD

@Rapitor Gulf of Mexico? Grumpy Old Man? Gross Operating Margin?

badp

They haven't lost their data, it's just their backups are too expensive to restore

HARDWOOD FLOORING, AT LEAST TO ME, MEANS FLOORING MADE WITH PIECES OF SOLID WOOD

DRM free movies from GOG.com gog.com/movies

@OrigamiRobot Hard woods, no less.

3:33 PM

@OrigamiRobot aight, back to the original topic then! Is (are?) veneer flooring an acceptable substitute to hardwood flooring? =p

Also, I'm getting yelled at by accounting because the new items I created don't have the correct pricing attached. Never mind that I was never given that in the first place. So I'm yelling back.

@KevinvanderVelden FOR THE PURPOSE OF "I LIKE COLD FLOORS" YES

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Floors are floors, no?

@AshleyNunn COLD FLOORS ARE SUPERIOR

MBraedley

Floors? Where we're going we don't need floors!

3:35 PM

@OrigamiRobot Rugs > cold floors

@MBraedley just because our artificial gravity broke doesn't mean we can't define floor

Oh God

My upcoming album, 'Linked List', has covers of 'The Purple People Eater', the Ninja Turtles theme, 'Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie Yellow Polka Dot Bikini', and the Power Rangers theme, with every song played to the tune of the next.

This is a thing I will now never not do to any 4-word name

It only works with the correct syllable stress pattern, which has been assembled properly here

@Unionhawk I know

With a few cheats, e.g. Asian Human Rights Commission

I kinda miss the huge ass background image they used in the old GOG.com

3:41 PM

@PrivatePansy GOGOG.com

They always had a really strong sense of aesthetics in their design that made it feel better than any other online stores I've used

Now it feels a bit more like a Steam clone, which is what almost every online game store seems to be designed to look like these days

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Apparently Doctor Who stuff is coming as DLC to the xbox version of Minecraft?

Ooo, the new design is responsive

I'll take back what I said - this new design is clearly superior

@AshleyNunn Of course it is, because it's on a console. PC games get free mods, and Console players get DLC.

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@Wipqozn I just think the Doctor Who tie in is weird.

3:46 PM

And still much better than Steam

Unused bed colonized by wasps

@Wipqozn - that picture is the good side of parenting.

(Can you name all the Autobots?)

Shiny. Oh so shiny.

@JasonBerkan PRIME OPTIMUS

3:49 PM

@OrigamiRobot Yup. I'm really not certain why they reversed the letters. Alex could read when he created this card.

Though I'm not certain how good his English reading/writing was.

IT WOULD BE A SIGN OF BETTER PARENTING IF THEY WERE DECEPTICONS

@JasonBerkan FORGET THE LETTERS, IT'S IMPRESSIVE THAT THEY GAVE THE TRAILER TWO SETS OF WHEELS

It only took the army a year and a half to realize that this guy who got posted here and NEVER TALKS may just have a mental condition or two

@JasonBerkan Oh I'm well aware of the brightsides of parenting. I just think the negatives outweigh the positives. Having kids means giving up all your free time and a bunch of other stuff. For me, that's too great of a cost. I can certainly understand why some people have kids, but it's just too much of a commitment for me.

I'M PRETTY SURE IF I HAD DRAWN THAT AT THAT AGE, I'D HAVE JUST PUT WHEELS ON THE BACK AND WHEELS ON THE CAB

badp

@fredley Get that bed 3D scanned

3:53 PM

There are certainly times when I think I'd like kids, but then I remember just how much of a time commitment it is, and I realize it's just not for me.

@OrigamiRobot Technically, that's exactly how trailers work.

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@Wipqozn This is how I feel right now.

badp

btw: PAR is going offline permanently in a few days because Penny Arcade are essentially garbage

And I'm not going to become a parent unless I'm 100% confident. It wouldn't just feel right to go into becoming a parent if it wasn't something I'd be 100% committed to.

@Frank I MEAN I'D ONLY PUT THEM ON THE FRONT OF THE CAB

3:54 PM

@OrigamiRobot Ah, you'd've missed the back wheels of the truck. I gotcha.

Granted, I totally missed those were a thing just a second ago, so take that for what its worth.