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12:19 AM
I always come in here when no ones around, blah
 
Bob
@SimonSheehan oh hi there
 
oh hello @Bob!
 
Q. Do laptop bioses (or UEFI) ever tell you anything about the battery on a laptop?
 
@Psycogeek Occasionally. Depends. Some will show the battery performance, usually just as either GOOD or BAD, or something along those lines
Also might show if its currently powered by battery or from a charger... but never seen anything overly specific
 
Thanks.
 
Bob
12:25 AM
> Broadway is a pure JavaScript and HTML decoder of the H.264 video compression format.
o.O
 
12:48 AM
Holy cow thats a lot of curious and inquisitive badges
 
Inquisitive... odd choice :p
 
er. why did I tag badges?
 
Good question
 
 
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3:11 AM
So I posted this answer
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A: Mac addresses of devices on network

Simon SheehanOn some routers, there is an option to view clients connected to the router, and it may display the addresses. I've got a Linksys EA2700 that does this, under DHCP Client Table. This may vary from router to router of course, but a viable option.

And then realized just how broken the DHCP table is on my router LOL
Says one of the wireless devices is on LAN and not WLAN, and also isn't even showing the machine I'm on currently. So there goes that
 
3:26 AM
nmap is the correct answer here ;p
 
 
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Bob
4:44 AM
-_-
private ICollection<string> foundIn;
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{
    get
    {
        return foundIn;
    }
    private set
    {
        // because the XML serialiser deserialises back to array... which is then readonly
        // so we convert that into a proper collection
        if (value is string[])
        {
            value = new HashSet<string>(value);
        }
        foundIn = value;
    }
}
 
5:26 AM
whoot
Hit (well, went past) 65K
 
Bob
lol
new milestone?
still waiting for 100k
 
yeah ;p
I'm kinda hoping to overtake ignacio sooner rather than later
 
when a persons says "I have 2-factor on gmail" what are they referring to?
 
two factor authentication - you get a text with a code when you log in
 
5:50 AM
And if someone knows the account and password already, then it helps with that how?
 
Bob
6:04 AM
@Psycogeek you can't log in without the code
generally, two-factor auth verifies that someone is in possession of a physical device
(though there are implementations that just do email, and that's still TFA)
the idea is, someone can brute force or steal one factor. but it's exponentially harder to do both. and you need both in order to log in.
 
So if someone has 2-Factor FOR g-mail specific, how does g-mail itself do that? Having one factor to get into your own computer :-) doesn't much count, because they are not in your computer.
And if you setup a 2 factor for All your g-mail, then that assumes that you have some method for a mobel device too? and for the library computer, etc. So what does g-mail itself provide?
 
Bob
@Psycogeek what usually happens with gmail/SMS 2FA is:
1. You attempt login.
2. Google sends SMS with code, and tells you to input the code.
3. You input the code, logging you in.
 
whoot
I found a copy of office 2007 ultimate from the time technet accidentally gave 3 month subscriptions to people ;p
 
Bob
o.O
 
6:18 AM
@Bob Ahhh and so goes "the Device" sort of silly isnt it when the phone is the first thing stolen :-)
 
@Psycogeek: no TFA is easier
 
Bob
@Psycogeek if they steal your phone, in theory they don't (or are unlikely to) know your password
 
it just prevents someone who's stolen your password from working getting into your account as easily
 
Bob
also, you'd notice your phone missing, which lets you change passwords
 
it stops a technical threat not a physical one
 
Bob
6:19 AM
the problem 2FA tries to solve is people guessing (or otherwise acquiring) your password and logging in as you, and no one can tell
 
@Bob: also mitigates password reuse
 
It aparentlly doesnt stop much :-) because after being keylogged by a download, these people could have 3 more methods and they still handed them all away .
 
Bob
you don't know if your password has been stolen. you'd better bloody realise if your phone is missing
 
I donno, but unless you got a nemisis, one good method , and actual security overall on your machines might be enough. (vrses DLing some POS software off google play that doesnt work but has a permission feast) . and Some people it wouldnt matter if they had 50 hoops to jump through, a hacker still gets in easier than they do :-)
Unless it is my Safe combination, I cant even see anyone waiting to get an SMS message back to do a simple log-in. And if they used various Device IDs, what you do when YOU dont have the "key" the device.
@JourneymanGeek and what is TFA?
Then the places they use such stuff, is its own contradiction. Well i want MY DATA to be secure, so i first uploaded it to -----Insert name---- Location on the web. then have 2 hoops to jump through so nobody gets it. Uhh sombody got it :-) how else do they store it for you.
Course if it is Your Web site, or your blog , or your forum, it is exposed to 1 billion possible humans, then it makes perfect sence.
 
6:47 AM
Well TFA doesnt have anything for it on SU, someone should get right on that. Total Freaking Anonymity
 
Two Factor Authentication? ;p
With it they need something you have and something you know
and the something you gave generates something thats hard to guess
 
Terrorist Formula Authentication ? That is where the fbi and nsa are so busy watching you , that any hacker gets dispelled .
 
hm, looks like my office 2007 key dosen't work
oh well ;p
 
If these things had 2 passwords one that you have to enter after the other, after typing in some random capcha :-) It wouldnt be any different really than having a psycotic password that you cant remember yourself.
My passwords should look like those stupid ass codes for software authentication. I cant even get those types in one try.
9h4b-hy87-48k2 ARGGG
 
7:05 AM
One of the better ideas i had heard was to make a password Sentance. A sentance is easy to remember and hard to find in a password dictionary. Could be it might even be passed over by a password sucking keylogger as chat noise.
"My mother In-Law has Brown fleas!" . First place I tried to use a sentance password it came back with "password to long" :-(
8TinymenInapartment4e
(fail, this looks like a password)
 
7:23 AM
One of my problems with giving away more information to these web corporations is, they are one of the peoples i do not trust. collectivly they have handed out more of my information than hackers. DMV got hacked (my drivers licence data) E-bay got hacked (my pay-pal data) and i forget who let my credit card out the back door. Even the Bank itself handed out my phone number to (none other than) its own loan competition.
 
i should have know though , they all had ?-Trust written down somewhere as if i am supposed to trust them. You know the saying, if someone has to Say "Trust-Me" well don't. Trust is an earned thing, not a belief system.
 
How does the Outlook 2013 contact management actually work? Contacts are somehow linked to the Outlook contacts, but not really, what... I don't get it
I have a contact I want to edit, but when I do, I only see this stripped down version of the dialog I'm used to. But I can click on "data source for this contact (Outlook)" and then I get the "real" dialog
But changes I make there aren't reflected back into the "other" contact wtf
Can someone explain this to me?
 
7:47 AM
superuser.com/questions/776426/… <--- spam , Why they did that I dont know.
 
@Bob: you can read chinese, right?
 
@OliverSalzburg superuser.com/questions/740090/… (registry edit didnt fix it)
Could be that many people forget that registry changes do not take effect, until the program reads the registry. Also rarely some registry settings are saved out after the program closes, setting it back to how the program saw it.
 
@Psycogeek Neither for me, maybe after the next reboot
I exited Outlook before adding the key and it previously didn't exist
 
8:05 AM
@OliverSalzburg ""We tested this in Windows 8 and found that we didn’t have to log off and log back on or restart the computer for the change to take effect"" so it may still work.
 
Humm, I also used this fix msoutlook.info/question/730 to make Outlook send out our company logo in the signature, worked great in the past
Now it stopped working
 
This one is oddly different "TurnOnLegacyGALDialog" very often these things are Case sensitive. Also Websites like to "tag" a fix they stole so they can see who stole thiers.
 
:P
I'm gonna re-create it with proper casing anyway though
 
no it cant. And i do not know what proper case is , unless i can find it originally listed by MS.
 
The one for the images even has spaces in it Send Pictures With Document
 
Bob
8:14 AM
@jou no, I can't read it
 
ahh
then never mind
 
Bob
only speak, and even then it's not great
I'm utterly shit at languages :P
 
I SUSPECT something in a post is gibberish ;p
 
Bob
heh. might as well try it?
I can't read the characters at all, but if I convert to pinyin I can try to guess it.
 
I find original MS document technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff631135(v=office.15).aspx <--1/4 the way down the page
and the YouTube which clearly shows what should change youtube.com/watch?v=ui1CXK9okoY But for 2010 ?
 
Bob
8:48 AM
@allquixotic Steam streaming update:
> Added support for NVIDIA hardware encoding for D3D fullscreen games on GeForce 650+ cards and the latest beta NVIDIA driver (340.43)
 
8:59 AM
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Q: Windows 8.1 computer management tree label on Chinese language

digiIn the Computer Management window the word in brackets that should say local is in Chinese. Why is this happening?

 
9:10 AM
Those new fonts are soo freaking helpful (not). If there is some bug somehow, many of the fonts on the machine can display any charachter, any language.
 
I don't think that means anything ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ...damn it, not copyable
also, that doesn't really look like Chinese
maybe just the small font
urk.
I don't know at all! :D
 
the close paren does not exist. I would say it was buggered up, or a few bits gone crasy, but the rest of the text is still ok.
which would lead to where would the machine get that piece of data "local" from? could be the registry, or just that it borked up in ram when comming from a dll?
So does it happen with the same charachters after a full actual reboot "of the hardware reset kind"
 
If I knew, we could answer that question ;p
 
Does win8.1 reboot and shut down goofy? some hybrid hibernation thing as the default?
googley translater doesnt show those chinese characters in either translate of the word local, which means very little
 
9:38 AM
Neat, you can put ☠ into tag wiki excerpts
A bit small, but the thought counts
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Thats what SHE said.
6
 
Anyone know if there's a tool that helps you find a software license?
Like, you tell it it needs to be open-source, but no commercial usage, and no warranty, etc
 
@JourneymanGeek Nice :D
 
9:54 AM
@JourneymanGeek some of these new RC hobby device use wi-fi and bluetooth? Saw some dude controlling a Camera based drone with the accelerometer on a phone (with the cameras video on the phone). like cool. wonder what the range on anything that can come out of a phone would be?
 
@Psycogeek: yeah. the parrot does.
I also seem to recall that the DJ phantom uses a regular controller and an app
 
@OliverSalzburg Perfect, thanks
 
@JourneymanGeek oh so they link the 2.
 
@Psycogeek: beats me
not really looked into em
 
Even the really small drones had rather amasingly stable pictures. More stable than one of them damn "lost film" movies :-)
 
9:58 AM
lol
quads are remarkable machines
I'm surprised no one's tried scaling them up
 
How far would the usual phones Wi-Fi reach outdoors , line-of-site, and still capable of a 5MB/s video signal?
After seeing what they can do, and watching a few "freedom from government drones" youtubes, I was thinking that just like before any "privacy" issue from camera drones, will come again from "little brother" not big brother.
A few years back freedom fighters were worried about all the government cameras going in, and privacy , a constitutional right in america. A few years later as cameras were freaking everywhere, it was small business and regular people who were controlling them, not the few the government had.
 
11:03 AM
depends on the router. Probably not far.
 
Bob
@Psycogeek most wireless cameras have lower bitrates than that. 5MByte/s is... pretty massive.
unless it was raw video, I suppose, but that would be terrible design
5MByte/s would be 300MBytes for a minute
17.5GBytes for an hour
 
> visited 999 days, 1 consecutive
 
@Bob I think like 7MB/s was DV (standard definition digital) rate 5-1, and the same basic rate is used for HD recording, although it was 4x more compressed.
 
Someone is about to break 4 digits \o/
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg nice!
@Psycogeek yea, but you'd definitely want to compress for wireless transmission
hardware encoders for H.264 are plentiful, cheap, and pretty power efficient now
 
11:13 AM
@Bob 20-1 is like compressed to death :-)
 
Bob
but even a poorer codec would suffice
I'm also nearly there! :P
 
@Bob I don't even know how that is physically possible
 
@OliverSalzburg I coulda done that, if they had computers in that padded cell :-)
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg The consecs? :P
To be honest, I have no idea how I haven't missed a day yet.
My last major overseas trip was a few months before that started.
 
@Bob Yes
 
11:18 AM
@Bob And how would i get this hardware encoder on a 4 propeller drone .
I was thinking if it was somewhow possible to use Wi-fi, to both control a drone, and get a full video picture back from it at the same time. 2 phones , direct wi-fi , and some crappy skype picture at the other end :-)
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Eh, my phone is perfectly capable of H.264 encoding.
The actual chip is tiny. Smaller than the camera, most likely.
Power consumption might be a problem, but the prop motors will likely use far more anyway - and those things have fairly beefy batteries.
 
> ☠ 𝔻𝕆 ℕ𝕆𝕋 𝕌𝕊𝔼 𝕋ℍ𝕀𝕊 𝕋𝔸𝔾! ☠
This is awesome :D
❤ Unicode ❤
 
@Bob the bigger $$$ ones are 8000grams :-O most of it battery. 800mm big.
 
shit
my keyboard stopped working
 
@JourneymanGeek It probably couldn't take the Unicode awesomeness
Your typing is excellent for using a non-working keyboard though
 
11:24 AM
lol
 
Oh, the Blackwidow stopped working
I am on my laptop
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek O_O
drivers or hardware?
 
dosen't seem to work on any system
its totally not detected
so hardware
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Lemme guess, Chrome?
Chrome's Unicode support has always been terrible.
@JourneymanGeek Warranty?
 
11:26 AM
probably past it
 
Bob
:(
 
@Psycogeek Oh damn. That probably doesn't help with getting the message across. :P
 
Bob
And here I thought mehs were supposed to last near-forever :P
 
my nephew was banging on the keys for a bit >_>
 
@JourneymanGeek is she spinning a web in the corner? she might be about to have babies.
 
11:28 AM
@Psycogeek What browser/OS is that?
 
Probably like 100 little blackberry keyboards running around
@OliverSalzburg It is maxthon2, runs on the IE engine. I will check in IE
The unicode looks the same in IE10
 
Bob
@Psycogeek Works in IE8 (though a bit weird/squashed, compared to FF)
Looks just like your screenshot in Chrome here.
@JourneymanGeek ...I don't see how that's a problem
 
Might be some configuring that is different too, you know all that stuff is off :-)
 
Fixed o0
 
I love my job
 
11:37 AM
@JourneymanGeek well self-answer?
 
Donno what I did
TRIED to take it apart
failed. It works though
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Hey, only one computer with errors!
@JourneymanGeek You scared it into submission.
 
@Bob: I might have growled at it a little.
I DO have a spare though
my sister in law would be stuck with the teeny weenie little server keyboard though ;p
 
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Q: Force Haswell driver installation on Zenbook

HrvojeLatest VGA driver on Asus support page for Zenbook UX302 is 10.18.10.3325, but on Intel, for HD 4400 is 10.18.10.3621 (battery life on this zenbook is really short, so I'm hoping to get more with newer drivers). When I download them from Intel, it refuses to install, it says I have to use manufac...

Seriously? you think that update is going to solve anything? Dream-On.
Ahh it would only take 15 minutes of hacking the ini to get it in, 30 minutes to realise why it said it wasnt compatable, 2.5 hours to remove it all, fix the mess in the registry and get the old one back. all because "you have a dream" well so did those Heavens Gate people (comet jumpers)
 
11:58 AM
:D
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ok, I asked my parents about those characters :P
apparently, the first and maybe second could be Chinese, but they don't make any sense
the last two are probably not
Korean was suggested for those two (after the second opening parenthesis)
but, yea, as @Psycogeek said, probably just corrupted...
 
I was just agreeing, JMG said it was probably giberish, and the punctuation was wrong.
 
12:20 PM
 
 
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1:38 PM
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Q: Suddenly dead keys don't work

MC EmperorSuddenly dead keys are disabled, but I didn't change settings. I'm running Windows 8.1. I didn't spill anything over the keyboard. The apostrophe ('), double quote (") backtick (`) circumflex (^) and tilde (~) are inserted instantly into a text field which has the focus, instead of waiting for ...

Asking before even restarting the machine! Grrrrr.
 
2:10 PM
@Psycogeek He says, "I'll reboot YOU!"
 
Bob
2:31 PM
o.O a reverse shopping question
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Q: Selling Build - Separate vs. Bundle(s)

tejas-manoharThe idea of switching to a system76 laptop running Ubuntu Gnome rather than my current hackintosh desktop build crossed my mind. Any ideas on how to sell this for best price? Bundle items together? Sell whole machine as a package? Sell individual parts? Local vs. online? GA-Z87X-D3H, i7 4771, CM...

 
closed!
 
2:55 PM
youtube.com/watch?v=CWi1XtkBVYc <--another one bites the dust (good audio)
 
@Bob lol a selling question
 
Bob
oh yea, what's going on with cavil? anything I can do?
 
@Bob haven't had the chance to look into it
 
Bob
ahk
 
@Bob the password works here
 
Bob
3:08 PM
O_O
...lemme try that again
 
check your gmail
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...that's... not the pw in the file
unless I was looking at the wrong file
cd dev
less restart.sh
cd so-chatbot-driver
less start.sh
oh wait, did you switch back to phantomjs?
I... forgot facepalm
 
@Bob nope, still FF.
 
Bob
@allquixotic Hm. Is restart.sh the right one?
 
3:11 PM
yeah.
maybe his login has been cached all this time and i never changed the pw on the server? O_O
dem cookies.
 
Bob
@allquixotic It's the one that starts with y
and I'm pretty sure I'm looking in the right place
meh, I'll update it
 
yeah. FEEX IT!
then crumple up that email and throw it in the trash
just remember, the NSA is the garbage man and they will rifle through all your trash
 
Bob
@allquixotic too late for that, it's gone through Google :(
 
!! s/G/t/i
 
Bob
3:15 PM
we need to share PGP keys sometime. heck, I need to set it up again!
 
yeah, though pgp on webmail is kinda lol
 
Bob
@allquixotic I use Thunderbird
except that means I won't be able to use the gmail app on my phone. meh.
!!info
 
mehhhhhh
 
Bob
gah
cavil
y u no work
there's two (?) firefox processes running
 
yeah it's been doing that
it forks for some reason
 
Bob
3:17 PM
o.O
@allquixotic what build are you running?
 
ff 23 -_-
 
It's becomming sentient
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Bob
I wonder if you're using e10s somehow
 
highly unlikely
 
Bob
hmm. so, what's left?
 
3:19 PM
Spock
 
Bob
I'm guessing rdp/vnc requires another pw, so that's out
 
rdp/vnc requires a looooooooong password, super annoying
 
Bob
too bad there's no pkey
though, you could've just turned off the password and made it listen on local only, then VPN or SOCKS in
 
too lazy for a pokey
ugh, the yucky oil smearing on the screen of my otterbox made me rip it off in rage
i like the feel of my finger on the screen itself :D of my phone
 
Bob
o.O
I just have the screen protector that came with it
 
3:21 PM
yours came with a screen protector? ha
anyway, um, you could try restarting xrdp? /etc/init.d/something restart maybe it's sesman and Xrdp or xrdp
you'd have to sniff the new DISPLAY value though :D
probably from ps -ef I'm guessing
then update start.sh with the new DISPLAY value
 
Bob
wait. shit.
@allquixotic I just realised... the login page is different
 
@Bob FSCK.
so i have to fix so-chatbot-driver!
 
Bob
wait, no it... waiiiiiit
I'm confused
login through chat => se login is the old one
login through su is the new one
 
oh boy. sounds like a nice 3 day weekend project
may as well rebuild selenium webdriver with my profile patch, and use a modern firefox, too
 
Bob
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@allquixotic can't; sudo password
lol
might as well wait till you're home/have time
 
3:25 PM
the current webdriver build only supports up to ff 23; the latest release by seleniumhq supports up to ff 31, which will be ESR :D
hmm, or i might just use phantomjs 2.x preview... I think it's really starting to come along
but as soon as I say that, Zirak will use some ES9 feature that he developed himself 23 minutes ago and expect the browser to support it
anti-monads or some shit
 
Bob
@allquixotic or just es6 lambdas :P
which apparently only ff supports
 
he probably uses those
is slimerjs headless yet?! gosh.
> (And it is not yet truly headless).
YOU'RE DEAD TO ME
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Bob
oh wait, I mean arrow functions
 
@Bob yeah but does it support sharp arrow functions yet? ->#
I'm kidding of course but Zirak would be the kind of person to implement that and then immediately require it
 
Bob
@allquixotic tbh that looks pretty blunt :P
 
3:30 PM
@Bob yeah but # is sharp for C#, right? so...
or no. it's C pound. I keep forgetitng.
 
Bob
I just sped up the program I was working on by 10000% :D
was firing off thousands of requests to Bing Translate
 
nice.
 
Bob
using async/await, of course
 
can you read that dailywtf article?
 
Bob
but it was only going a couple at a time
the really screwy thing was adding Fiddler2 in front made it faster (~10x)
 
3:33 PM
@Bob nice :D
 
Bob
turns out WebRequest has some kind of global connection limit per socket, defaulting to 2
 
some kind of threading thing mebbe
 
@allquixotic Nice
 
Bob
set that to 5000, and now it's instant (2000 requests in maybe 5 seconds) :P
@allquixotic I thought it was. spent a whole day profiling it, and came away with nothing :\
Also tried chucking the request generating code into a Parallel.ForEach, but that obv didn't do anything
@allquixotic kinda reads like someone out of high school... from overseas
 
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