Root Access

allquixotic

2:01 PM

@Leathe they're paying you 5 euro to buy their game? nice!

Leathe

@allquixotic well the problem is that the Buy button is gone :P

Boris_yo

2:21 PM

@Leathe Maybe there's "Credit" button?

@allquixotic I wish companies us to test their betas...

"Your account was submitted for approval by moderator"

Guys do you know what moderator must go over to approve account? What does he check actually? All he has is registration details so how can he see something fishy from such information?

allquixotic

2:38 PM

@Boris_yo at what site? SE?

slhck

Hm. What can I do if Firefox isn't able to load any page when Chrome and IE can?

It's set to use system proxy settings. (We have an HTTP proxy here)

allquixotic

@slhck after restarting it? making sure it's using the same proxy settings? trying to start it in safe mode?

slhck

@allquixotic It's a fresh install.. what would safe mode do?

allquixotic

@slhck eliminate any potential badness in your user profile

slhck

@allquixotic ?

allquixotic

2:41 PM

try it.

if it doesn't work, I'll think of something else to try :P

Bob

@JourneymanGeek You had a good mouse?

@slhck Is it through WPAD and/or PAC?

Firefox doesn't do DHCP WPAD properly.

slhck

@Bob wpad

Bob

Chrome uses the Windows stuff for its HTTP requests, apparently.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: went from a kone XTD (great mouse, unreliable as hell. Went through two), and then a razer taipan, which is great so far

slhck

And what can I do then? Manually specify the proxy?

Bob

2:42 PM

Firefox... does something different.

allquixotic

@Bob used to*

Bob

@slhck Yes. Or set it to the correct PAC.

@allquixotic Huh? They changed?

Whoops, DHCP not DNS

Journeyman Geek

if you want a reasonably priced mouse, get a logitech G300

Bob

DNS WPAD works fine, not DHCP

allquixotic

@Bob in 2009. here.

Bob

2:43 PM

@allquixotic Interesting.

o.O

@slhck bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=356831

allquixotic

also, if they used WinHTTP, I'm pretty sure things like SPDY could never be supported

(without major overhaulage of WinHTTP, which may have actually happened with IE 11)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Considered it: msy.com.au/nsw/ultimo/peripherals/…

(making a trip down to MSY tomorrow... first time, only just remembered there's one not an hour's drive away :\ )

but the extra buttons on the right are weird

left too, really

I like my thumb buttons :P

Journeyman Geek

yeah

thats the one thing I hate about it

Bob

Heh, looks nice, but a bit pricey: msy.com.au/nsw/ultimo/peripherals/…

Journeyman Geek

brother has one

its sweet

slhck

2:48 PM

@Bob Yeah, so I had to set it to http://wpad/wpad.dat and done

Stupid, really.

Bob

Taipan is $69 and out of stock

@JourneymanGeek what would you say is best about it? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

convince me to get one! :P

Journeyman Geek

I have an odd varient about it

@Bob: all the buttons are in the right place

Bob

ok this is just ridiculous: msy.com.au/nsw/ultimo/peripherals/…

Journeyman Geek

2:50 PM

though you're likely to only use one set of thumb buttons

its not too light

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'll have to go see if they have any on display.

Journeyman Geek

and not too small

if you've got ginormous paws the deathadder is a better choice

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The deathadder actually looks more compact.

I prefer longer mice. Got used to it with this Dell one.

Journeyman Geek

no, its a bit fatter

this is long and leaner

Bob

...

d-link

y u do dis

msy.com.au/nsw/ultimo/peripherals/…

802.11ac without GbE

HackToHell

2:54 PM

ultronbrowser.info

2

Journeyman Geek

lol

that completely makes no sense

Bob

@JourneymanGeek the router or the browser? :P

Journeyman Geek

yes

Bob

xD

Journeyman Geek

this is clearly a joke. I'm not sure what's the punchline ;p

allquixotic

3:07 PM

@Bob beamforming? extended range? :S

also, 802.11ac could communicate faster than 100 Mbps between wireless clients connected to the router irrespective of its ethernet functionality

assuming an ideal uplink that can saturate 100 Mbps ethernet, you'd be hard-pressed to deploy an effective, reliable implementation of 802.11n or one of the older standards that could actually give that entire pipe to one (or even a handful of separate) wireless clients, but 802.11ac can do it easier

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell wat

allquixotic

they probably save about $0.03 per unit going with 100 Mbps vs GbE though

Bob

@allquixotic still, GbE seems like something trivial to add

why go to the trouble of 802.11ac and finish it off by using 100mbit/s?

allquixotic

@Bob they must've really wanted that extra 3 cents per unit.

(at the expense of customers)

Bob

@allquixotic and having to price it lower cause less fancy numbers

allquixotic

3:18 PM

@Bob well, I'm not sure if GbE chip cost has come down to the point where it's not significantly more expensive than 100 Mbps, but if you remember, a number of years ago, GbE was as expensive (and the cards were ridiculously huge and only available for full scale servers and desktops, not lappies or embeddeds) as 10G is today

economy of scale + die shrinks probably helped a lot, but still, it may wind up being more than 3 cents difference

Bob

@allquixotic I can get a GbE switch retail for $25...

The manufacturing cost of the entire device was probably under $10

The difference with a 100mbit switch was probably under $5

and that's a conservative guess

Maybe not 3c, but it's not all that much more expensive either

allquixotic

the other thing to consider is the CPU throughput required to push a gigabit smoothly across two separate PHYs (gigabit coming through ethernet, then copied over to wifi)

remember that routers have ridiculously weak CPUs

Psycogeek

@Paul if you get a chance superuser.com/questions/745366/battery-notification/… i moved some data into this link only answer. the comment might not be nessisary. (assuming the user has seen it by now)

Bob

allquixotic

the CPU might peg (or the bus might bottleneck) before it can push that much data, so GbE makes little sense in that case without buying a more expensive SoC

which would significantly drive up the cost of the whole unit

Bob

3:23 PM

@allquixotic if you're doing it with the CPU, you're probably doing it wrong :P

allquixotic

@Bob on consumer kit, the SoC does pretty much everything except the PHY/radios

judging from how cheap (and low clock, and low spec, and old fab, etc) the MIPS SoCs used in most routers are, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if it could only push, say, 400 or 500 Mbps across the widest available system bus (FSB or equivalent) and not be able to even haul a gigabit

they need to move to ARM >_<

it's not like ARM SoCs are expensive! they're just faster :P

Bob

@allquixotic I always thought switches were implemented on ASICs

though the bridge probably isn't, true...

jokerdino

@Bob What's that sport?

Boris_yo

@allquixotic No, just regular forums...

Bob

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Q: Defining 32-bit or 64-bit processor requirements

My knowledge of computer hardware is fairly extensive, however it is apparent that this is not the case when considering types of operating systems. I've gone by the rule of thumb for years that if a machine is over 4GB, install a 64bit version in order to use all that memory, and the opposite fo...

pretty sure we have at least a dozen duplicates

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A: Defining 32-bit or 64-bit processor requirements

The confusion about choosing 32 or 64 bit OS for these processors comes from the fact the x86_64 is not a 64 bits processor but and extension for memory addressing only. They are 32 bits processors. That's why you don't need to install a 64bit version of your OS if you don't have 4GB or more RAM...

> The confusion about choosing 32 or 64 bit OS for these processors comes from the fact the x86_64 is not a 64 bits processor but and extension for memory addressing only. They are 32 bits processors.

??????

allquixotic

3:38 PM

@Bob I couldn't find the SoC used in that specific router, but I found a SoC used in a D-Link 802.11n router (the router itself appears to be pretty okay one, at first glance), and it has a MIPS processor at up to 680 MHz, single core, with DDR1 SDRAM, a PCI 2.3 33 or 66 MHz system bus, and 100 Mbps ethernet. it claims it can do 450 Mbps 802.11n.

presumably if they want to support AC they're using something a bit more powerful, but even that little guy can push 450 Mbps? ooooookay, if you say so D-Link, lol

Bob

Lordy. The answers on that question are terrible -_-

Found the dupe!

Bob

4:00 PM

@allquixotic It's 2 AM and I'm debating playing KSP or going to sleep :P

really wish KSP had more guidance/a better tutorial, though :(

Ash

4:17 PM

So,I was looking up for the meaning of heathen and found according to this

page that ,

> an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim;pagan

But I recognize and express appreciation for the God of the Bible , still I am neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim ,

so , am I a heathen ?

Canadian Luke

4:29 PM

I guess by that term... Weird :)

allquixotic

4:48 PM

@Bob :D

KSP!

Mokubai

6:04 PM

@Ash If you're heathen and you know it clap your hands! clap clap

2

If you're heathen and you know it clap your hands! clap clap

@Ash If you're heathen and you know and you really want to show it , if you're heathen and you know it clap your hands! clap clap

allquixotic

@Mokubai If you're not a mod and you know it clap your hands! clap clap

Mokubai

clap clap

allquixotic

:(

Mokubai

I made myself sad :'(

I remember seeing a film years ago with a "ditzy blonde" girl singing the "if you're happy and you know it song" in the shower (not porn btw) and she couldn't understand why she kept dropping the sponge....

I don't know why, but I still find that surprisingly funny.

probably for the same reason that this is my most favourite gif in all the world...

allquixotic

6:28 PM

@Mokubai ...

Mokubai

What?!?!

jokerdino

he isn't exactly fond of girls.

Mokubai

It was proper tasteful like, iirc it was a family film. It was just a good joke.

@jokerdino Oh. Should I not ask?

allquixotic

@Mokubai oh. so it wasn't like revealing camera angles during the sponge dropping repetition thing?

jokerdino

@Mokubai Don't

Mokubai

6:30 PM

@allquixotic Oh no, not at all. It was just done purely for the dumb blonde joke.

allquixotic

!! s/fond of/able to interest/

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic he isn't exactly able to interest girls. (source)

Canadian Luke

?

jokerdino

@CanadianLuke You are supposed to say sorry now.

allquixotic

oh look, it's all the dropouts (except gparyani/damryfbfnetsi and EC) and losers, from the election :P

the whole family is here :P ish...

Canadian Luke

6:32 PM

I'm just wondering what this is about a girl in the shower dropping a sponge

jokerdino

Poor dog

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke go plant trees

there was a vid up on youtube by Machinima (I'm subbed to them because of their funny Skyrim videos) about a certain website offering to plant an uncapped number of trees based on the number of... videos watched on their website on Arbor Day, which IIRC was earlier this week

so the message was, "watch videos at this site and trees shall be planted, helping the environment"

it came off as a bad publicity stunt though

Canadian Luke

@allquixotic Did you change your display picture yet again? When you posted here, it's the star trek dude still, but up above, it's the frowny face on the Windows 8 BSOD

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke your browser cache is very stale

but yes - Win8 BSOD :( is my new gravatar

Canadian Luke

Yet, I cleared my entire cache yesterday... Lol

allquixotic

6:46 PM

I'll be using it for at least 17 years to pass the

Boris_yo gravatar stability baseline requirements for civil discussion with persons having Limited Gravatar Anisomorphism Coping Ability Syndrome

cc @ThatBrazilianGuy (or whatever your display name is today) ^^

for some reason I feel like my overly technical jargon would be better represented in Russian

Борис лет стабильности Аватара базовые требования к гражданской дискуссии с лицами, имеющими с ограниченной Аватар Изменение способности справиться с ситуацией синдром (thanks, Google Translate!)

jokerdino

And one in French please?

Oliver Salzburg

whatthefwhat

allquixotic

@jokerdino the French don't use super-jargon names; they'd just call it "Elisa"

jokerdino

Oh she.

@OliverSalzburg That's a lot of money. yay

allquixotic

@jokerdino who?

Oliver Salzburg

6:52 PM

@jokerdino That's a lot of a difference in prices :P

allquixotic

OK, fine, Jacque then

jokerdino

@allquixotic Elisa

allquixotic

since you're so.. tree-planting about French girls

I've invented a NLM (Next-Level Meme)!

jokerdino

@OliverSalzburg I can tell. Roughly, 1 USD = 1 Euro, no?

allquixotic

19 mins ago, by allquixotic

@CanadianLuke go plant trees

!!tell 15302209 no

ChatBot John Cavil

6:53 PM

allquixotic

not even roughly

Oliver Salzburg

> 160 Euro equals 221.82 US Dollar

jokerdino

Wow. Must stockpile my Euros.

@allquixotic Tree-planting girls don't attract me.

Or are you literally talking about tree planting?

allquixotic

@jokerdino I'm talking about a next-level meme/euphemism that you aren't picking up on yet

jokerdino

trees mean Mary Jane, I think.

allquixotic

6:55 PM

@jokerdino no

what are trees made of? or rather, what do you call trees when used as a product in human industry?

jokerdino

are you saying wood?

allquixotic

good job!

21 mins ago, by allquixotic

there was a vid up on youtube by Machinima (I'm subbed to them because of their funny Skyrim videos) about a certain website offering to plant an uncapped number of trees based on the number of... videos watched on their website on Arbor Day, which IIRC was earlier this week

jokerdino

oh i see.

I was thinking trees meant drugs.

allquixotic

hence, my invocation of the NLM/E:

5 mins ago, by jokerdino

Oh she.

^^ go plant trees

Ash

►

allquixotic

6:59 PM

@Ash what if you're sad and you know it because you got a BSOD?

If you're sad and you know it, press reset! click-click

> Primary closes in 59 minutes.

get those last votes in for @CanadianLuke and @Mokubai and downvote DragonLord! :P

support your chat regulars! :P

jokerdino

Downvote all the chat regulars. Keep them from mod duties and all the time for chat.

Mokubai

@allquixotic I wouldn't say I'm much of a regular recently tho...

allquixotic

@jokerdino by that logic, JMG should be at -1 votes, because not only is he already a mod on SR, but he's the most prolific chat contributor

I'm #3 after him and Bob the fox who says !!foxno

Ash

!!catno

ChatBot John Cavil

@Ash That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Ash

7:04 PM

I thought so

allquixotic

!!foxno

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

wow, 1 Kuwaiti Dinar = $3.54 USD

so 1 Kuwaiti Dinar in Vietnamese Dong = a lot

jokerdino

Viet Dong. Many laughs were heard.

Oliver Salzburg

!!doge vietnamese,dong

ChatBot John Cavil

7:14 PM

   wow
                           such vietnamese
very dong

Oliver Salzburg

> Primary closes in 44 minutes.

That Brazilian Guy

33 mins ago, by allquixotic

I'll be using it for at least 17 years to pass the

Boris_yo gravatar stability baseline requirements for civil discussion with persons having Limited Gravatar Anisomorphism Coping Ability Syndrome

@allquixotic I don't change my username anymore. What's the point when everyone here knows my real name?

By the way, thanks for reminding me! I almost forgot!

It's a new month, time to ~~annoy @Boris_yo~~ get a new avatar... again

@allquixotic The solution is paying them in Zimbabwean dollars!

allquixotic

@ThatBrazilianGuy :D

Bill Gates is probably like, a Nonillionaire in Zimbabwean hyperinflated dollars

I bet the Zimbabwe version of "Who wants to be a millionaire?" results in extremely few takers

especially if it barely buys you a candy bar

That Brazilian Guy

7:36 PM

I remember buying a single candy on a $100 coin a couple decades ago

It was another currency back then

And going further back in time, I remember the days when the prices would rise daily.

Oops, I mean, multiple times a day.

So people would buy using credit cards because when the credit card bill arrived, at the end of the mont, the products would be more expensive by then

But I was a little kid back then, don't remember much

I wouldn't care about money, all I knew was it could get me comics and candies

allquixotic

oO

That Brazilian Guy

7:52 PM

I have lived thru five correncies ~~until now~~ before I was 12.

Things are more stable since then. At least in this very specific part, it's an improvement.