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user55340
7:11 PM
Hmm... co-worker using a kanban board with her 1st grade daughter to keep track of homework tasks.
 
That's...interesting.
 
user15026
@MichaelT I used to do something like that for my school related stuff
 
user15026
It worked surprisingly well
 
user55340
Post it notes with sticky stars to indicate difficulty (1-3 scale).
 
I'm a fan of Kanban myself. Unfortunately, it doesn't work really well if you're mobile. I sometimes work from home, or not at my desk. If Outlook had a free Kanban plugin for tasks...
 
user55340
7:16 PM
Post it notes on the inside of a folder with appropriately drawn lines.
 
I tried. That requires destroying. I also need to be careful what I actually put down on paper due to the project.
There are files that I shouldn't even open if there are other people in the room with me.
 
7:28 PM
@ThomasOwens Do you work in one of those cinder-block buildings with Faraday shielding and no windows?
Is there a safe next to your desk? ;)
 
@RobertHarvey It actually has a surprising amount of glass.
Although there are a few windowless rooms and labs.
 
When I was at bing maps, the company that MS bought for the imagery data acquisition and processing had previously done a lot of work with governments for gathering imagery data, you can guess the secretiveness necessary there. When MS bought the company, they had to spin off a portion to another building as the gov wouldn't keep working with them having the non-gov project folks in the same building. The building had two meeting rooms that were known to be safe for privacy
They had said they were sound proofed with spacing between the walls so the room effectively floated in the building
 
7:48 PM
@ThomasOwens I miss having labs... Philips being engineering oriented because much of the building I was in was doing device design and development had open labs all over the building, was great.
 
user20683
HBO did a very, very good job with the Purple Wedding
 
user15026
Purple?
 
anytime you wanted to get into the details of something you were working on to talk through with someone you would just go find an empty lab, they could never be scheduled but you could pretty much always find space
@AshleyNunn aren't you supposed to be working?
 
user15026
@JimmyHoffa I am :D (for ten more minutes)
 
user20683
@AshleyNunn Joffrey's wedding to Margaery Tyrell
 
7:51 PM
@WorldEngineer no spoilers, jerk
 
user20683
What spoilers?
 
And then they all died.
 
user15026
@WorldEngineer Ah. :) I am so behind on that show - I keep wanting to watch it but then it makes my brain wobble. I am better with my gore in writing than in front of my face
 
@WorldEngineer Now I know it's purple and they will be wed
 
7:52 PM
Hey. Want to know what's funny? Why can't George R.R. Martin tweet?
 
@ThomasOwens because if you say his name fast you sound like a pirate?
 
user20683
@ThomasOwens Because he killed all 140 characters
 
@JimmyHoffa No. Because he's already killed off all 140 characters.
 
@MichaelT WebSense'd.
 
user55340
7:57 PM
And then there's dorktower.com/2013/06/19/… too
 
user55340
Well check 'em when you get home.
 
user20683
today's XKCD is made of win for the spoiler text alone
 
I will. Also, everyone, put your thinking caps on. If we want to, we can make /help/how-to-ask editable and put cool guidance for writing awesome questions there.
Meta post coming soon.
 
user55340
 
GoT was meh imo.
 
user55340
8:01 PM
Transcript: "Game of Nerds"
AIEEEEEEE! (nerd in front of TV)
Oh, its **that** episode of "Game of Thrones," eh? (Alpha Nerd with book)
 
user55340
Chicago, 1976
DM: You take six more damage. Zoltar is Dead.
Martin: What? That can't be!
DM: It is!
Martin: But... But... I totally bonded with that character!
DM: And now he's dead.
Martin: But it was such a meaningless death... so pointless
DM: Tough
Martin: There's no closure? No justice?
DM: None at all!
Martin: I cared about him!
DM & Company: HA HA HA HA HA HA
Martin: I'll have my revenge you monsters! Revenge on you... revenge on the world!
(Present day, Author Signing Today! poster in back ground, Martin at desk)
 
it's interesting, it seems there's a lot of shows these days where nothing good ever happens
 
Tv in general is not very good imo.
 
walking dead for instance, every time something good happens it's one step forward and 4 main characters killed. The idea of things only ever getting worse constantly worse in a story somehow is popular to people these days, I have a hard time imagining 20 years ago the general populace would appreciate shows with no happy endings so much as people appreciate them now
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa Reflects the attitude of the country and population as a whole.
 
user55340
8:11 PM
Quick example - look at british vs american sci-fi.
 
user20683
British Scifi on the whole is more subdued
 
user55340
How many episodes of Dr Who is everyone but the doctor killed?
 
user55340
Blakes 7... subdued?
 
@MichaelT aye, can't know what that reflection is though. One of people relating to that which is similar to their reality? Or one of people fantasizing about something different from their own reality? Can't know. I suspect you're right though, it is somehow a reflection of current society
 
I wouldn't exactly call Dr. Who subdued.
 
user20683
8:12 PM
@MichaelT was thinking more along the lines of Quartermass and the like
 
user20683
vs Lost in Space and so on
 
Dr Who always has a happy ending
 
user55340
Space Island One?
 
user55340
@JimmyHoffa Umm... ?!
 
user20683
@JimmyHoffa HAHAHAHAHA
 
user20683
8:13 PM
Don't watch much old Who do ya?
 
@JimmyHoffa I think it's characteristic of a society where eliciting a reaction of ANY sort is more difficult. You have to increasingly try to shock people and add more twists, more ways things can get worse, in order to get them to pay attention.
 
?? Seriously. at least the 2005 on. I never watched any of the old ones, they seem like crap.
@Dr.Ibb valid theory
 
user20683
They are largely better if you ignore the effects and pacing
 
Plus, we've always had an obsession with apocalyptic and self-destructive myths.
 
user55340
Old ones are made up of 2-5 'episodes' that are each ~30 min long rather than trying to fit it in one 60 min block.
 
8:14 PM
Perhaps, but I haven't managed to bother myself with the effort.
 
user55340
But seriously, its very common for everyone else to be dead at the end of an episode
 
At least in the West.
 
Look up campy in the dictionary, and you'll find a picture of the original Dr. Who there.
 
All I know is that the current Dr. Who always has a happy ending. Every time, unless it's to be continued.
 
Even The Illiad is full "Well, things just got worse" moments.
 
user55340
8:15 PM
The final episode Blake was broadcast on 21 December 1981....
 
user55340
> Tarrant is nearly killed by Blake's colleagues when Avon and his crew save him, giving credence to Tarrant's accusation that Blake has betrayed them to the Federation. Becoming overwhelmingly suspicious of Blake, Avon kills him. Arlen reveals that she is a Federation officer and Federation guards arrive. Tarrant, Soolin, Vila and Dayna are apparently killed by Federation troops, who slowly surround Avon. Avon steps over Blake's body, raises his gun and smiles. Shots ring out.
 
"Oh this battle has turned in our favor.. Crap, our best warrior (Achilles) just got hit in his only weak spot"
 
user55340
They got some "just before Christmas" feedback on that.
 
user20683
@RobertHarvey Really? Not compared to this:
 
user20683
 
8:16 PM
Eek?
 
@WorldEngineer Around my office we call that "Casual Friday".
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user20683
@RobertHarvey On the plus side, that premise is what got X-Com made
 
Anyway, I like TV.
 
@Dr.Ibb I must admit, I would love to wear one of those outfits to work, just to act totally normally and see people's reactions. But then half my life's joy comes from getting a rise out of people...
 
@JimmyHoffa Just go work at Yahoo. Your hair would fit in perfectly with the color scheme.
 
user20683
8:22 PM
@JimmyHoffa Got two words for ya: Chocolate Twizzlers
 
user20683
 
@WorldEngineer I'm simultaneously curious and grossed out.
 
@WorldEngineer holy shit.
I must buy these
 
user20683
They are the same texture as regular twizzlers as far as I can tell
 
How do you eat them without them melting in your hand first? Sounds like a good metaphor for the typical software project.
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8:25 PM
They're in stock in the wal-mart down the street from me. My wife's going to be so upset (if I can manage to keep a straight face and not give away that something's off immediately)
 
user20683
@RobertHarvey They are basically chocolate flavored gummyish crap
 
@WorldEngineer Also like most software projects.
 
Of course, that's probably an improvement over the regular Twizzlers.
 
user55340
Best part with classic twizzlers is using them as straws... these... I'm not sure that would be good.
 
user20683
8:27 PM
@MichaelT Milkshake?
 
user55340
twizzler + straw for orange soda = enamel melting sweetness.
 
user55340
The key is the acididity that delivers some of the flavor of the straw to you - I'm not sure that the milkshake would do it.
 
@MichaelT My parents used to let me drink Coke through a Red Vine. No wonder my teeth are so eff'ed up.
 
I hate twizzlers, but choclate twizzlers are most certainly worse
by far
 
user55340
and if you were going to do that, there are other products better (the chocolate milk thing)
 
8:28 PM
@Dr.Ibb Try sticking some Mentos in there first.
 
@RobertHarvey In the Red Vine or the Coke?
 
I'm sure we can find a way to work pixi stix in somehow
 
I had friends who used to snort those things.
"Had" being the operative term, there.
 
8:29 PM
@Dr.Ibb oww
 
Google Video "Diet Coke and Mentos," and you will be enlightened.
 
@Dr.Ibb the trick is to put the redvine through the coke bottles lid tightly so after dropping the mentos, you put the lid on and it all just spews out of the red-vine
 
I mean, I will inhale them, but only in the metaphorical sense
 
user55340
Congrats: You're one of today's 10k!
 
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user20683
8:30 PM
@RobertHarvey My embedded systems professor attempted to build a fluidic computer that used diet coke and mentos
 
@AJHenderson Yeah, I never understood the impulse to snort them. Then again I never got into drugs or anything like they did either, so different strokes, I suppose.
 
@Dr.Ibb same here, I don't even like drinking more than two beers in a row
but then again, my natural state is not having much in the way of inhibitions if I don't want to
 
@MichaelT How do people even think these things up?
 
user20683
@MichaelT I saw that
 
user20683
8:32 PM
@Dr.Ibb Fluidic computers have a very old history
 
user20683
widely used by the Soviets
 
@WorldEngineer Interesting. Time to go down the Wikipedia rabbit hole...
 
@Dr.Ibb you'll have to let us know where you end up on that, it's always most interesting starting with wikipedia page on X and then half hour later finding yourself reading page Z
 
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psr
8:45 PM
@WorldEngineer I tried but I can't. Every (random, out of order) episode I've seen seems to have something like plunger-handed robots, some references to things that have happened earlier that I don't understand, and pacing such that the show ends with something about to happen immanently. I've never seen anything actually happen.
 
8:58 PM
Use an if statement in the controller method? Expand if the href property exists? — Robert Harvey 23 secs ago
People can sure ask some strange questions.
 
That question is just confusing to me. A little unclear what he/she is looking for.
 
strategies and patterns...everyone wants a pattern..I've got a pattern for ya right here
Use as much as you like for any purpose you feel.
 
Maybe he thinks there's some widget or something that already does this.
 
That's a pretty good pattern.
 
from now one when someone asks for a pattern on the site I'm just going to link that
 
9:02 PM
The "write some code" pattern.
 
Yeah, it just seems like he's over complicating it.
 
Well, it wouldn't be a real project if we didn't overcomplicate it a little bit. Maybe we can find a way to write an attribute that he can decorate his controller method with. Oh, wait. I'm sorry. Attributes don't have access to the href parameters.
[sound of family feud buzzer]
 
@Dr.Ibb let's be fair now, that pattern I have there is plenty complex. I'm not even sure how many colors there are, what's that like 6? 8? Also let us not forget that it's a very heavy duty industrial grade pattern, lumberjacks the continent over prefer it for it's sturdiness.
 
And its feminine qualities when used in kilts.
 
@JimmyHoffa It's pretty versatile, as well, given that it can be used either by Lumberjacks or by Portland hipsters.
 
9:06 PM
@Dr.Ibb I'm telling ya, with that pattern, you really don't need any others...
 
How many of the GoF patterns are considered antipatterns now?
 
All of them? Most of them are fixes/workarounds for programming language problems anyway.
 
Maybe
 
user55340
The issue isn't pattern vs antipattern... any pattern is an anti-pattern when used improperly.
 
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A: Where are all the functional programming design patterns?

MaglobOO and functional programming are two very different programming paradigms, and design patterns (DP) is a significant part of OO design and programing. DP do not have such role in functional programming. One could even say, that DP are not needed in functional programming -- there is no itch whi...

 
user55340
9:09 PM
And thus, in the hands of a student who doesn't know better they are all anti-patterns.
 
I look at the functional concepts as patterns. Immutability, purity etc.
But I should prolly not write it since it feels a little dirty to use the word pattern.
 
user55340
How does the interpreter pattern fit in there?
 
I'm a fan of the pattern pattern.
 
I like the small and simple pattern
Simple is hard though
 
user55340
The interpreter pattern is something I've run across and fought with because they didn't realize that it was a pattern.
 
user55340
9:15 PM
Started out as a simple little macro dsl... and turned into a huge ugly pair of 10 ksloc classes with 700 if/else if statements in a method.
 
user55340
If they had recognized the pattern early on, it would have had a nice antlr file and the appropriate parsing of the dsl as a language rather than what was a simple config file once upon a time that grew 700 heads.
 
user55340
I'd really suggest going back and reading
 
user55340
 
staring it for later
 
user55340
9:19 PM
Note that it has nothing to do with software engineering... but is the inspiration behind the GoF in writing their design patterns book.
 
user55340
By understanding what inspired them, you've got the background for understanding what it was they were trying to get at.
 
psr
@JimmyHoffa What's a good name for that?
 
@psr Flagged as off-topic.
 
psr
@Dr.Ibb Great name, thanks! +1 because flags are wavy.
 
@psr And usually stripy.
 
user55340
9:30 PM
 
psr
@MichaelT I'll have my tartan guy look into it.
@MichaelT Though I've been warned that tartan's don't work well with artificial grass, and that one should be wary of clothing astro-naughts.
 
10:04 PM
Programmers has its good days and its bad days. This is one of its bad days.
 
@RobertHarvey Maybe it shouldn't have decided to give up caffeine on a Monday.
Or, wait, that was just me.
 
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