Game Development

hasherr

22:00

No, it's not working

Dean Knight

You are using github right?

hasherr

Permission Denied
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.

Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository exists.

Dean Knight

Hm, on github, make sure you grab the https repo URL

BlueBug

hasher is trying to do it all just from git, I suppose?

Aidan Mueller

@hasherr Also keep in mind that Git still is an awesome tool even if you only use it locally.

Dean Knight

22:02

You are using a command line tool right?

I use Git Bash. Every GUI I have used on top of git has messed with my repo's

hasherr

I am learning the Bash now

Okay, I grabbed the https instead of the ssh and it asked for my username and password, but it didn't push my files

Aidan Mueller

@DeanKnight I actually found the provided GUI to be confusing.

hasherr

it says
No refs in common and none specified; doing nothing;
Perhaps you should specify a branch such as 'master'.
Everything up to date

Dean Knight

did you cd to the proper directory?

hasherr

yeah

Dean Knight

22:05

It should have your directory name and (master) right next to it

BlueBug

I use gitHub for most of the times, then open up gitshell and do commend line thingins if I have to. I am still too afraid to transition to complete commend lines.

hasherr

Yes, Dean

Dean Knight

Hmm, weird

I assume you are trying to take an existing codebase and bring it under version control into a private or public github repo

erebel55

everyone vote my questions up cuz i'm cute

Dean Knight

Am I right?

Aidan Mueller

22:07

@erebel55 No.

hasherr

Yes.

erebel55

:(

Aidan Mueller

:D

BlueBug

@erebel55 pic first as proof.

hasherr

If by codebase you mean my project on my computer

erebel55

22:08

my avatar is my pic silly

Aidan Mueller

@erebel55 Seems legit.

erebel55

too legit to quite

*quit

Dean Knight

yeah, my bad. By codebase I meant units of code that did one singular task, so basically a project or solution. Okay, I will type of some easy to follow instructions for making a repo, cloning it, and putting things in intially. Just to make sure something in setup went wrong.

just to make sure nothing in setup went wrong8

*

erebel55

i just want to be able to downvote questions, but my 100rep question got moved to dumb ux

hasherr

Do I need to generate an SSH key?

erebel55

22:10

*answer

Dean Knight

I have always used https

BlueBug

what did you ask to get 100 rep. Tell me the secret.

Dean Knight

Never had a need to make it SSH

hasherr

Okay, so why is it questioning my access rights

Dean Knight

Because if you own the repo on github, it wants your github account info to verify the repo is yours

and to verify who you are

hasherr

22:11

I verified it...

Dean Knight

It is like logging into your email, but anytime you want to push, it will ask for username / pass.

erebel55

@BlueBug I meant answer lol

hasherr

@DeanKnight I get it.

BlueBug

that must be hack of an answer. Alas, I can only dream of giving such an answer.

hasherr

"Perhaps you should specify a branch such as 'master'"

What does that mean

Dean Knight

22:13

I feel like it doesnt understand what you want to push...

Try this

Do a

git status

copy and paste it here

hasherr

You can't copy paste

'nothing to commit, working directory clean'

Dean Knight

see there is your problem

erebel55

@BlueBug it wasn't even accepted :P

Dean Knight

did you do git add --all?

hasherr

Yeah

Dean Knight

22:14

Is this repo public? I could help verify that the repo is proper by pushing a txt file or something

hasherr

Yes

BlueBug

what? the question poster did not accept 100 upvoted answer? He must had a thick skin. If it was me I would have accepted even if I didn't understand. "uh... I don't understand but I can feel all these peer pressure"

Dean Knight

Add me as a collaborator, dak8361

I will try pushing something to the repo

hasherr

I don't know what that means.

Or rather, how do I add you?

Dean Knight

If I can push we know its just your end user config stuff thats shot.

oh, one sec

erebel55

22:16

oh no lol it was only upvoted 10 times

Dean Knight

in github click on the repo

then on the right, find settings

BlueBug

oh I forgot. 100 rep != 100 upvote.

Dean Knight

On the left, there will be a collaborators tab

hasherr

Got you.

Dean Knight

Type my username dak8361 and click add

link me the repo

I dont see it showing up immediately.

hasherr

22:19

github.com/hasherr/Traveler

Dean Knight

Oh boom

I see the problem

When you made the repo, you didnt have github initialize it

hasherr

???\

What does that mean?

Dean Knight

So, the repo itself hasnt been built

one sec

Ok, so

start from scratch. Clone that repository to your desktop or whatever.

git clone github.com/hasherr/Traveler

then use the following commands to initialize the repo...

touch README.md
git init
git add README.md
git commit -m "first commit"
git remote add origin https://github.com/hasherr/Traveler.git
git push -u origin master

it should be:
git remote add origin github.com/hasherr/Traveler.git

just so that is clear..

Alex M.

what's Traveler

Dean Knight

Apparently, it is his project

of some sort

hasherr

22:25

fatal: could not read from remote repository

Fuck.

Dean Knight

hm, well one sec. Creating a brand new repo would probably be more efficient.

hasherr

I was thinking the same thing

I'll just make a test repo to practice wit

Dean Knight

Try this..

Create new repo

check public

BlueBug

ARHGHGHG POWER WENT OFF

Dean Knight

check "Initialize with README

"

BlueBug

22:26

MY COMPUTER! I HAVE ONLY 1 HOUR LIFE LEFT I AM GONA DIE! MOTO SNOWSTORM!

Dean Knight

The intialize part will do your first commit for you

At that point, you should be good repo-wise

hasherr

Okay, so am I creating the repo through the bash or through the site?

Oh, through the site

BlueBug

someone please help me, I can't live without internet.

Alex M.

what is hasher's problem

Lasse

@BlueBug You need a better ups

hasherr

22:28

@DeanKnight Alright, repo created

BlueBug

what is better ups I googled it all I can see is some workout machine.

Lasse

Oh you're on laptop

Dean Knight

Did you make sure to init with readme?

hasherr

Yes.

Lasse

@BlueBug en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply

Dean Knight

22:29

Awesome. Now, use the https link, and clone to your desktop

this will involve git bash

git clone <url>

hasherr

Okay, done

Dean Knight

Make sure you are in your desktop or something

it will create a folder itself

Alex M.

Dean Knight

same name as the repo name

hasherr

Yay, it worked

BlueBug

22:30

dat looks... sweet, but too much for college student who lives in an apt :(

Alex M.

@BlueBug motorstorm arctic edge was one of the nicest PSP games

hasherr

So now let's say I make a file. How do I commit this file?

git commit -m ???

Dean Knight

You create the file. Make sure it is in your local folder

that matches the repo

Alex M.

@hasherr just use SourceTree or Git Gui?

hasherr

No, I need to learn how to use Git properly

Alex M.

22:31

trust me, you're better of using SourceTree now and reading about git command line in your spare time

no, you just think you're a hardcore shit if you use the command line

Dean Knight

if your repo folder name is Traveler and its on your desktop. Make sure you cd to there.

Do a:
git add <filename>

or.. do

hasherr

Alex, quiet now

BlueBug

dat looks like sweet physics racing game, but I don't own PSP :(

hasherr

git add --all?

Dean Knight

git add .

Alex M.

22:31

lol okay man, I'm just saying

Dean Knight

or git add --all

hasherr

You say a lot of things.

Alex M.

you use git properly when it saves your business money

not when you write down some commands

LOL

Dean Knight

Alex, have you ever used git gui before?

Lasse

And you have no idea what you are talking about

Dean Knight

22:32

Last time I tried using a couple of GUI's it really messed things up. Im curious to know if there is a good gui out there for it though.

Lasse

I hate programmers who are too used to clicking on things

Alex M.

@DeanKnight I use SourceTree

Dean Knight

Anyways, Hash. After you add it to your stage. You do
git commit -m "commit msg" to commit it to your local git repository

Alex M.

@Lasse lol another purist

Dean Knight

and then from there you can git push to your remote repo (the github repo)

hasherr

22:33

How do I push it?

Dean Knight

git push

hasherr

Permission denied :P

Alex M.

I only use git's command line when I have to force push to remotes because I have no idea how to do it in SourceTree LOL

BlueBug

even hunger did not push me outside to get food, but now no internet, I am motivated to go venture into the snowstorm and find some cafe with wifi and power.

Dean Knight

since you cloned the repo.. you should only need to do git push, and put in your username / password

Alex M.

22:34

but other than that, sorry, pushing a button is easier

Dean Knight

hm, is there any chance you are incorrectly typing in your git credentials? Because I dont see how it can be so messed up now

Alex M.

see, SourceTree would have complained at login

Dean Knight

Add me as a collab to that repo as well. I couldnt push to the other one because it was flawed. Maybe i can push to this one.

@AlexM. It definitely can be easier.

I have had GUI's destroy my repo before. But that was a year or so ago

Probably have come along since then

Never tried sourcetree

hasherr

UIs have always caused problems for me

Alex M.

I wonder if I'd be hated if I wrote a Vim plugin to accept some voice commands for stuff, to complement typing

actually, someone did it already

hasherr

22:37

They only work when I do nothing with my project except for commit and push

Alex M.

@DeanKnight you can't really go wrong with Atlassian

hasherr

@DeanKnight It say s'failed to push some refs to 'https://github.com/hasherr/test-repo.git'

Dean Knight

try:
git pull origin master

hasherr

Permission denied

What.

Dean Knight

weird dude

Alex M.

22:39

lul okay, I'll go back to my stuff

let me know when you decide to pay a visit to 2014

Dean Knight

@AlexM. Thanks I will take a look at it

I dont think a GUI would fix your issue, because I think it is a configuration problem

Must be on your end

Alex M.

@DeanKnight do that, and let me know what you think of it

I use it at work and home on everything, would never change

Dean Knight

@hasherr try restarting git bash

sometimes when you config user properties, you need to restart for it to load them up

hasherr

I'm going to just restart the whole process

Okay, now how do I pull the project from Github again?

git remote add origin https://github.com/hasherr/Traveler.git

Like that?

Alex M.

this reminds me, the first time I learned to use Git

hasherr

22:43

Because that doesn't work, it gives me a fatal.

Dean Knight

no, you need to clone it

Alex M.

and I say "learned"

hasherr

that's right, thanks

Alex M.

was when I tried to push things to Arx Libertatis' repo and had to be tutored by one of the team members

Dean Knight

Yeah Alex, the first time I "learned" git it took a week

Literally just days on days

Alex M.

22:44

I went through this whirlwind of commands I had to type in

Dean Knight

to figure dumb shit out

Alex M.

and didn't understand shit

I wish he had just pointed me to Git GUI (the default)

and some online tut

hasherr

Command line offers more flexibility

Alex M.

lol

which part of that flexibility are you using now?

hasherr

Your mom

Dean Knight

22:45

It actually does. I think the biggest benefit though from CLI version is truly understand how things are happening

Alex M.

right now you're praising Git for a feature that's not useful for you

Dean Knight

understanding*

Alex M.

and one you're likely not going to use for some time

hasherr

It's important to learn how things work

Instead of just looking at some copy-paste clipboard of buttons

Dean Knight

You know though, trying out the GitGui may be a good way to troubleshoot

See if it works

hasherr

22:46

I try to immerse myself in different techs allt he time.

Alex M.

it's important to have your projects under version control and minimize the effects bugs and changes make

Dean Knight

If it doesnt, you definitely know it is an account config issue

hasherr

I try new IDEs and VCS and all these different things and you do nothing but ridicule me for it because I'm not exactly like you.

Alex M.

@hasherr I know the importance of knowing how git acts internally

and I agree with it

what I don't agree with is your drive

right now you're doing learning for the sake of learning

hasherr

@AlexM. Okay, cool. Go talk about it somewhere else.

Alex M.

22:47

and you're also hypocritical

hasherr

@AlexM. Is that a bad thing?

Christian Careaga

shots fired

Alex M.

why should I talk about it somewhere else?

if you don't like to hear what I say, cover your ears

truth hurts kid

hasherr

Because no one is listening to you.

Alex M.

except for you, because you know

you're replying

hasherr

22:48

Dean is helping me and you're just the white noise that keeps distracting me.

Alex M.

troublesome

Dean Knight

Boys, boys, boys. There is something to be said for learning for the sake of learning, and learning efficiently on the job.

Alex M.

you have the means to stop me but instead you're trying to talk me out of it

perhaps you know what I say is true and inconvenient

hasherr

@DeanKnight Where were we?

Alex M.

and want to shut me up personally?

that won't happen

Lasse

22:49

There's an ignore button

Alex M.

always remember: it's not the editor that makes the programmer

no matter what hardcore shit you're forcing yourself to learn

you'll remain inefficient

hasherr

@DeanKnight So I made a new file in the repo and then committed it

NOw, is there anything else I need to do before I push?

Alex M.

@DeanKnight learning for the sake of learning can be beneficial from some POVs and detrimental for others

let me drop a quote

Dean Knight

agreed man.

Alex M.

found it! I think it's a very nice quote

> “Learn thoroughly what you learn;
let your conduct be worthy of what is learnt.”
Verse 391 from Thirukural, Collection of 1330 noble couplets
Thiruvalluvar, poet and philosopher, 31 B.C.

learning for the sake of learning rarely gets you to that 2nd part

knowledge you just know and don't use is knowledge wasted

Dean Knight

22:55

The thing is, you cannot predict when you will use it. So if its on your own time, I dont see the problem with it

Christian Careaga

Shouldn't you learn what you need to know, when you need to know it?

Dean Knight

On company time? No, it isnt useful at that point

Alex M.

sure, and what hasherr is learning now isn't even remotely useless

however, the reason he learns it is pointless

Lasse

What do you think he is learning now?

Alex M.

his aim is not to learn how to do VC properly, his aim is to "learn how to use Git the hard way"

Dean Knight

22:56

Perhaps. Never know though, may save him time at some point. I converted the place I work at to git all because I randomly took time to learn it in my off time, a year or so before

within a month they had their central server crash, and git made it very easy to restore. So I mean, money was saved there

Was it intentional? Not really. But it proved to be useful

hasherr

You don't even know why I'm learning it

Alex M.

I'm just connecting the dots

hasherr

You're speculating.

Alex M.

days ago you were like "OKAY LINK ME TO VIM. I'M GOING TO LEARN THIS."

hasherr

You're connecting imaginary dots.

Alex M.

22:58

... why?

hasherr

Because I wanted to learn it. Have I given up?

Lasse

@AlexM. I am one of those guys who learn by doing, not by reading some philosopher's writings. Which is why I installed Arch Linux as my first desktop linux, I am forced to learn it, because I wanted to learn it. As a hobby.

Dean Knight

^ I cant speak for the past. Have not been in chat for a while haha

Alex M.

@hasherr "I wanted to learn it" <--- seems like learning for the sake of learning to me

Dean Knight

@Lasse I think this has merit as well. I only got into computers as a hobby. Its that "learning for the sake of learning" that got me into software dev

hasherr

22:58

What the hell is wrong with learning for the sake of learning

Alex M.

@Lasse okay, cool

Lasse

Learning for the sake of learning is not bad thing at all

Dean Knight

So I dont think its completely baseless. As well as I dont think it is a pillar to learn on as a way of doing things

its just part of the process

Alex M.

I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it's just not exactly... optimal

Christian Careaga

I learned how to program because I wanted to program, not because I needed to program

hasherr

22:59

Optimal? For a 16 year old with a little too much time about optimal?

Alex M.

the time spent to learn things that you're not going to use is time wasted after all

hasherr

You think I care about what is optimal?

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