AskUbuntu Classroom Discussion - Packaging

@Madscientist cancelled?

Mad-scientist

4:15 PM

Yesterday's event was cancelled/postponed?

due to a personal event of @MarcoCeppi's

this session will continue as scheduled for 18:00UTC

as will the next session that immediately follows at 19:30UTC

Mad-scientist

Kool.Looking forward to it.

now i have to load a few other things on this new system...

but then i should be good to go

18:00UTC is about 2PM here (14:00) so if my time info is right, that's in about 2 hours

Isn't that in 40 mins?

12:21 here

4:21 PM

Ah no it's 1hr 40 mins

The Basics of Packaging on Ubuntu export
Starts in 1 hour (in your timezone, that's 14:00 on Saturday), lasts 90 minutes.

oh that reminds me i need to give @Stefano god powers in here...

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=utc%20time

^ utc time

@TheEvilPhoenix no need

Feeds

The Evil Phoenix has added Stefano Palazzo to the list of this room's owners.

@Stefano but i want ya to have it :P

so THERE

4:23 PM

okay then :)

(I have them anyway)

room topic changed to AskUbuntu Classroom Discussion - Packaging: Discussion channel for the Classroom Sessions regarding Packaging. Instructor: The Evil Phoenix Moderators: Stefano Pallazo.

true because of that diamond next to your name

regardless

so just to be clear everyone, the session starts in 1 hour and 36 minutes - whatever that is on your clocks

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i just want to make sure the access tab lists who i want :P

4:59 PM

@Rinzwind sure you don't want moderator? the offer's still on the table

for this class session :P

:D

you still do not have someone? tsk

i have @Stefano i think

never hurts to have a second mod :p

now what was i doing... oh right

i was beating this system with a stick

lol

heh did I agree to that? :D

oh good the packaging environment is all configured

5:01 PM

Yes you did >:-D

of course BOTH of you can moderate the chat

well, I can moderate I s'pöse, don't know if I'm still breathing by the time the second session starts

and @StefanoPalazzo you're a darn mod anyways :P

lol

well in that case if you die @Rinzwind can take over

:D

make sure he has voice in classroom :P

finishes building the environment and begins uploading screenshots to the internet

5:02 PM

yeah he has

write access that is :)

me? :X

*** Important Links For Class Session \*\*\*
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete

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5:34 PM

The session on Packaging will begin in 25 minutes.

*** FILES YOU WILL NEED ***
http://kor.trekweb.org/packaging/class-files.zip <--- Files we will use for packaging demonstrations created and owned by myself for this class session.

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room topic changed to AskUbuntu Classroom Discussion - Packaging: Discussion channel for the Classroom Sessions regarding Packaging. Instructor: The Evil Phoenix. Moderators: Stefano Pallazo, Rinzwind.

room topic changed to AskUbuntu Classroom Discussion - Packaging: Discussion channel for the Classroom Sessions regarding Packaging. Instructor: The Evil Phoenix. Moderators: Stefano Pallazo, Rinzwind (backup moderator).

5:52 PM

Hello all

@TheEvilPhoenix the Packaging files are there right?

@Amithkk i'll give you the tutorial of installation of required programs duringi the session

K

but for the class, i will be creating a package out of that ZIP

its just a lousy .sh script i wrote in 5 minutes :P

but it can be placed in a package xD

SESSION START

nope, 5 minutes

5:55 PM

@all Please try to make your questions as concise as you can - I think this will be a very busy session ;)

5 more

Cue @MarcoCeppi

hey if a .sh works in 5 min... why waste a 6th on it?

@Rinzwind i spent 5 seconds writing the command. the other 4 minutes, 55 seconds was me writing the Terms of Use into the script :P

I bet sara will stop this session too :)

LOL

5:56 PM

:D

Can someone explain what is going on? has been out of the loop

nice cardboard box

@James chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/663/classroom?tab=schedule

5:57 PM

@JamesGifford next classroom sessing starting in 3 min about packaging

The session will begin in 2 minutes

@TheEvilPhoenix @Rinzwind ah ok thanks. marks himself as attending

@James also for future ref: meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1568/…

@TheEvilPhoenix reads

off we go!

6:00 PM

START

please address questions to me or prepend them with QUESTION

thanks :-)

ok Stef!

Ooooohhh.... Command line. Dangerous ;)

1st command starts with rm >:D

@StefanoPalazzo QUESTION : Are we going to need to extract the ZIP?

6:02 PM

yes amith

@Amithkk ANSWER: YES.

:P

see >:D

don't star the headlines, guys :-)

they're irrelevant

:P OK.

heh

6:05 PM

:X

@JamesGifford n00b ;-)

uses evil mod-powers to remove stars

:P

@Rinzwind I know you starred them as well. ;)

:D

ooohhh.... PGP keys. ;D

HOW DARE THEE!

@StefanoPalazzo QUESTION : is seahorse avalable on oneric?

6:06 PM

@StefanoPalazzo QUESTION: How to make a PGP key? Is there quick and dirty way to do that?

Annndd.... nevermind. He just answered my question. :P

he's prolly going to answer both q's now

what?

@StefanoPalazzo i asked a different question

2 mins ago, by Amith kk

@StefanoPalazzo QUESTION : is seahorse avalable on oneric?

uhm, that's not really relevant, is it?

@Amithkk off-topic, Ubuntu+1 doesn't matter on askubuntu.

6:08 PM

(the answer is almost certainly yes)

Im using oneric

ok

(With Ubuntu+1 being the ubuntu development "release")

For the record: we will be building in stable environments only at this time, but you can check with apt-cache search seahorse

I know

Yeah its there :D

but im going to my natty

keep up the speed or you'll run out of time

6:09 PM

BRB

Done!

@TheEvilPhoenix correction "the capital S will return a error"

changed

:D

that can't be right

@StefanoPalazzo?

hmm? what's wrong S?

6:13 PM

I'm on classic, so I can't test it now, but I'm pretty sure the dash is case insensitive

@StefanoPalazzo alt+f2 and terminal require case sensitive :P

up to now it goes smoothly :=D

@TheEvilPhoenix never mind :-D don't watch this channel :P

@thw

@StefanoPalazzo Dash is Case-sensitive

6:14 PM

@TheEvilPhoenix stay in your channel ;) Stef got this one

just keep up the pace

-generating key \o

still generating

Same here

done!

its doing primegen

done

and it's added under 'personal keys'
all's well here

Speed up!

Im having a extra hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371

6:19 PM

@Amithkk I have that too, don't worry about it

Teh Internetz?!

cool :D key published \o/

James died

or he was bored

Im so gonna blog about this

@StefanoPalazzo QUESTION Can i close Seahorse?

yes

yes you can amith :+D

you can even re-open it >:D

6:24 PM

Cool XD

room topic changed to AskUbuntu Classroom Discussion - Packaging: Discussion channel for the Classroom Sessions regarding Packaging. Instructor: The Evil Phoenix. Moderators: Stefano Palazzo, Rinzwind (backup moderator).

btw: I think I already installed the packages

5 minutes to 30 minutes ??

sry there was a typo :O ocd'd

lol

6:25 PM

@StefanoPalazzo :D

finished installing :)

has everyone got the packagesa installed?

if not shout now ;)

nah im here

ninja'd!?

python-soappy

WTH??

done

6:27 PM

soap is some kind of web protocol

python developers like to put py on the ends of things

@Amithkk soap is a storage format for exchanging data in remote procedure calls

like json or xml

yeah same neurotic ppl as the KDE ones >:D

"i need to find a program in KDE"
"oh did you start looking at k*. It mostlikely starts with a k so that's the best place to start"

Kinzwind :D

Ktefano :D

i already have K in my name :D

command is running \o

othermirror "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu $(lsb_release -cs) main restricted universe multiverse"
W: /home/amith/.pbuilderrc does not exist
I: Distribution is oneiric.
I: Building the build environment
I: running debootstrap
/usr/sbin/debootstrap
I: Retrieving Release
I: Retrieving Release.gpg
I: Checking Release signature
I: Valid Release signature (key id 630239CC130E1A7FD81A27B140976EAF437D05B5)
I: Retrieving Packages

6:32 PM

tum tum ti dum...

This failed for me

its midnight!

done

done!

dv3500ea ran into problems?

PAUSE

do you need help @dv3500ea ?

6:35 PM

PLAY

It's my fault

I'm on Linux Mint :P

that's your fault indeed :P

AskMint Classroom Discussion - Packaging

hehehehehehe

@StefanoPalazzo

Type of package: single binary, indep binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch?
 [s/i/m/l/k/n]

6:38 PM

@StefanoPalazzo that's w/o sudo I presume?

must be :)

:1313161     Maintainer name : Amith
    Email-Address	: amith@unknown
    Date				: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:08:43 +0530
    Package Name	 : packaging-test
    Version			: 1.0
    License			: blank
    Type of Package : Single

what's up @Amith, do you have a question?

nah i showed my output :D

problem!

question: why do amith and me have @unkown at the email adress?

6:40 PM

and me!

Also:

Could not find packaging-test_1.0.orig.tar.gz
Either specify an alternate file to use with -f,
or add --createorig to create one.

WTH?

when I press enter

that will happen

Could not find packaging-test_1.0.orig.tar.gz
Either specify an alternate file to use with -f,
or add --createorig to create one.

\o/

in Classroom, 1 min ago, by The Evil Phoenix

Oh, whoops i believe i skipped a step, one moment.

6:42 PM

Could not find packaging-test_1.0.orig.tar.gz
Either specify an alternate file to use with -f,
or add --createorig to create one.

@StefanoPalazzo How many more minutes

there are about 45 minutes left in the first part of this session @Amithkk

45 amithk

45! im exiting in 15

part 2 will start in 45 minutes, and run on for 60 minutes

a packaging marathon :)

@Stefano this may take a tad longer than 47 more minutes :P

6:44 PM

:-)

@StefanoPalazzo where is .bashrc?

@Amithkk in your home directory. press Ctrl+H to see hidden files

if it's not there, you can create it

check! mail works

might be worth will to consider re-scheduling part 2 :X

I did mean to bring that up :|

check! msg appears

lol

6:48 PM

two and a half hours is quite a long time to do packaging

yeah but he included installing packages ;-)

lets see how it goes. I have all the time in the world ;)

we also need something for preparing the classroom: packs installing can be done ugfront

me too! holiday ends mondsay >:)

we'll save that for later >:D

he modified his ls >:D

see! rm! >:D

@StefanoPalazzo QUESTION: Do we need to remove the .EX files?

he said "may" ;-)

6:51 PM

I saw that.

I removed them :X

@JamesGifford you can also just move them somewhere else if you want to look at them later

(However, I like asking stupid questions so that other people don't have to)

that's what I'd do

@StefanoPalazzo Currently there is no top level Makefile. This may require additional tuning.
Done. Please edit the files in the debian/ subdirectory now. You should also
check that the packaging-test Makefiles install into $DESTDIR and not in / .

6:52 PM

@JamesGifford sure >:S

@Amithkk already answered in the chatroom ;)

The question I really had was "Can we leave them there?"

@JamesGifford I guess you should remove them - don't want to leave stray files lying around generally

finished building!

@StefanoPalazzo Alrighty.

packaging-test (1.0-1) unstable; urgency=low

  * Initial release (Closes: #nnnn)  <nnnn is the bug number of your ITP>

 -- Amith <amithkumaran@gmail.com>  Sun, 10 Jul 2011 00:22:25 +0530

6:57 PM

QUESTION: is it possible to specify for multiple versions (like maverick and natty)

if you don't mind @Amith, it'd be helpful if you only posted relevant messages here - I have to read them all to make sure there isn't a problem :)

Ok

@dv3500ea sorry for putting "david", I can never remember that mess of letters off hand :-D

@StefanoPalazzo QUESTION can you put an '*' to include all versions

it's ok :)

6:59 PM

@Amithkk that latest message answers this question, right?

Umm i dont think so

as in "you can't specify multiple version"

that was for specifiying more than 1

yeah it does

k

7:00 PM

from which, I suppose, you can infer that you also can't specify "every" version

@Amithkk no you can not ;)

yawn Bye guys ill check the Transcription

see you

Its 00:30

suddenly it is quiet here ;)

still no q's from me >:D

7:13 PM

QUESTION: what are '${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}' - they don't look like package names?

variables that point to packages I guess

see man dh_makeshlibs >:D

ok that answers my question :)

I think there's a mistake in exec/helloworld.sh

@@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
-#/bin/bash
+#!/bin/bash

8 minutes to go \o

lets put a five minute break before the start of the second session ;)

Depends: coffee (>= 2cups)

Depends: Coca cola :=D

7:24 PM

^^^^^ Actually it's ok

lol

@TheEvilPhoenix how close are you to finishing? where should we set the break-point for the transcript?

(sry for the interruption)

3 minutes? :P

the second session isnt very long :p

fantastic :-)

i can theoretically run into it and still complete it with 15 mins ::

7:27 PM

@TheEvilPhoenix let's make a clean cut, then we'll have some time for Q&A

dpkg-source: error: syntax error in packaging-test-1.0/debian/control at line 8: line with unknown format (not field-colon-value)

ok

@Rinzwind source code please

I didn't get that error

bah, i'll need to recreate my keys

Source: packaging-test
Section: misc
Priority: extra
Maintainer: Rinzwind <w.damen@gmail.com>
Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 7.0.50~)
Standards-Version: 3.9.1
Homepage: www.test.nl
test.git;a=summary

Package: packaging-test
Architecture: any
Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, bash
Description: testtt
testtttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

did i remove wrongly? >:D

7:29 PM

@Rinz remove the Homepage: and line after it

k!

I just installed the .deb I created ok :)!

seems to work now \o

oops no... problem with key signing too

Aw, so I don't get a break after all :P

Any questions @everyone?

lol

anyone questions?

7:32 PM

@Rinzwind what was the issue?

oh, and make sure you matched the info from your PGP key EXACTLY

otherwise it fails to sign

QUESTION: is the file debian/install specific to using the dh_make method? When I've made packages before I've written out the debian/rules file with lots of cps!

@TheEvilPhoenix i probably made an errorr there and shall find that out myself \o

cps == multiple 'cp' command

I'm burnt up :X

Well probably have a few minutes at the end of the second session

7:35 PM

:P