The DMZ

12:00 AM

@KarthikRangarajan Definitely hit me up more as you go down his project. I'll try to clean up and post my puppet manifests too. I'll need to clean them up so they're not so site specific, and write readmes. The former should be easy

Simon

12:12 AM

@TildalWave om nom nom

Karthik Rangarajan

12:36 AM

@ScottPack will do, thanks!

Simon

1:20 AM

I wanna listen to "What does the fox say?" but I don't wanna wake up in the middle of the night with the song stuck in my head again.

@kalina Are you alive? I wanna show you how much of a nerd I used to be too.

Scott Pack

1:39 AM

@Simon It'll be fine. Don't worry about.

Simon

@ScottPack So, should I listen to it again?

Scott Pack

2:53 AM

@Simon Uncontested.

Simon

I don't wanna anymore.

Pussy.

hey

Hey you.

3:40 AM

@ScottPack You made the guy leave.

TildalWave

Charlie Brooker's 2013 Wipe is out, which I'm gonna watch so... good night! ;)

Simon

n8

FEichinger

Just ... thought I'd leave this here.

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Simon

my keys

TildalWave

@FEichinger hahaha brilliant!

thanks!

.... ZZzzzzzz 1 sheep over the fence, 2 sheep over the fence, 3 ..... sh.... fe..............

Scott Pack

4:02 AM

@FEichinger Ok. That's fantastic.

Vignesh4303

6:12 AM

belated christmas wishes and happy new year to all @polynomial,@adnan@rory alsop @lucas

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@Vignesh4303 Thanks, you too

Lucas Kauffman

7:51 AM

@Vignesh4303 thanks for you too

Lucas Kauffman

8:05 AM

what's with the shitty questions today

Iszi

8:21 AM

@ScottPack Apparently it's going payware in 4.0.

Karthik Rangarajan

8:34 AM

@LucasKauffman maybe everyone made it their objective to learn security as a new year resolution...

AviD

8:52 AM

@FEichinger oy. How did I get on a list with @Adnan and @Simon??

Now I need to watch out for the TSA.

AviD

9:19 AM

oooo Atari 2600 emulator!!

looks just like I remember it.

Lucas Kauffman

10:49 AM

@AviD you're old

Rory Alsop

11:02 AM

@FEichinger - hang on, didn't @kalina set fire to me as well? :-)

AviD

11:23 AM

@RoryAlsop heh, I figured I'd try to search for all the times @kalina said "fire" or "burn"... but it was far too many

and seeing as she's burned down the whole DMZ more than once, I think this list is moot.

@LucasKauffman you're ugly

Rory Alsop

11:51 AM

@LucasKauffman stoppit you...

Lucas Kauffman

:p

Rоry McCune

12:09 PM

@LucasKauffman yeah or you'll get reported for ageist behaviour!

see @RoryAlsop @AviD us over 40's need to stick together

Rory Alsop

@RоryMcCune hahaha - yup

Lucas Kauffman

hahaha

AviD

I'm not 40 yet, you senile old fogey!

Lucas Kauffman

@AviD Shut up you old bat

Rоry McCune

@AviD ahh but I was using the standard methodology where perceived age = actual age + (3 x number of children)

AviD

12:11 PM

@LucasKauffman I just saw the bat in Adventure. I missed that old coot.

@RоryMcCune ahh, of course. Me and Methuselah.

is that actual number of children, or the number it feels like?

Rоry McCune

@AviD ooh good question there should probably be a weighting for number of children in your house on a regular basis making noise+mess

AviD

@RоryMcCune also the perceived number of kids increases exponentially, not linearly.

so 2 kids much more than twice as much as one kid.

Rоry McCune

@AviD ouch, well I suppose all you need to do is get your .Gov to buy into that and you'll be able to pick-up your pension real soon now!

AviD

@RоryMcCune would it shock you to know that I do get a monthly child stipend?

thats not a stipend of new children every month, but money for the kids.

Rоry McCune

@AviD ah yeah they get that here too IIRC although the gov are always messing about with amounts and boundrys and the like

AviD

12:15 PM

not a lot, mind you, but I just noticed it increased a bit more when my baby was born.

@RоryMcCune yeah, its all about the political games here.

Rory Alsop

@AviD not for all - our 3rd provides only a fractional increase in noise and mess (and sometimes a decrease as she appears to defuse the elder two)

@RоryMcCune yeah - it has been a long time since we managed to get any child benefits

that's what happens when you work in such a highly paid industry (not!)

ManishEarth

First! ? :>

hmm, limerick time

Rory Alsop

@ManishEarth ?

ManishEarth

@RoryAlsop Some people are exceedingly brave / Adventure with crypto is what they crave / Because the established tools / are only for fools / Don't be a Dave

screwed up meter once again, but meh

@RoryAlsop limericks=stars=hats

Rory Alsop

@ManishEarth oh? Where? I thought using the S-word got stars :-)

(he hinted)

ManishEarth

12:26 PM

I really want a hat / so I post limericks in chat / people will star/ 'cos that's what they are / and that's that

@RoryAlsop hah

I suck at limericks

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Rory Alsop

@ManishEarth You doing anything for Hogmanay celebrations?

ManishEarth

hogawha?

Rory Alsop

Hogmanay

Hogmanay (Scots: , , Scottish English: ) is the Scots word for the last day of the year and is synonymous with the celebration of the New Year (Gregorian calendar) in the Scottish manner. However, it is normally only the start of a celebration that lasts through the night until the morning of New Year's Day (1 January) or, in some cases, 2 January—a Scottish Bank Holiday. Etymology The etymology of the word is obscure. The three main theories derive it either from a French, Norse or a Goidelic (Insular Celtic) root. The word is first recorded in 1604 in the Elgin Records as hagmonay (d...

proper New Year celebrations

ManishEarth

Yeah, I know, Googled it

@RoryAlsop spending time with SO, nothing special

I would have gone home but nothing special at home either :p

AviD

@RoryAlsop yeah, and the russians have Novi God. So bleedin' wat.

Rory Alsop

12:32 PM

@AviD doesn't matter what it is called - it is an excuse for a party, and some whisky, ergo it is a 'good thing'

AviD

eggsactly.

Do Scots do eggnog?

Do Scots ever make their drinks Irish?

Or do you just call that "drinks".

Rory Alsop

@AviD An Irish coffee is generally different to a Scotch coffee, yes - but in Scotland we also add any spirit to coffees and name them after whatever country that spirit comes from :-)

FEichinger

1:42 PM

@RoryAlsop Did not show up in my search, no.

Rory Alsop

2:04 PM

@FEichinger :-)

TildalWave

2:17 PM

g'day

Utkarsh

@AviD remember me?

TildalWave

@AviD actually, they have two

also...

Old New Year

The Old New Year or the Orthodox New Year (, , , , , Serbian: Српска Нова Година or Srpska Nova Godina , Macedonian and Bulgarian: Стара Нова година, , ) is an informal traditional Orthodox holiday, celebrated as the start of the New Year by the Julian calendar. In the 20th and 21st centuries, the Old New Year falls on January 13 in the Gregorian calendar, 13 days after its New Year. In Russia Although the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic officially adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1918, the Russian Orthodox Church continued to use the Julian calendar. The New Year became a ho...

AJ Henderson

3:03 PM

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A: Can ISP detect DNS requests for a web site embedded in another website ?

If you use a domain name for an iframe in your site, the browser will have to resolve it. This means it will have to make a call to DNS from the client. There is no way for you to provide the resolution to them. If you can use an IP address for the site rather than a domain name, then the clie...

is my answer meandering too much in trying to direct him to the fact his concern is fundamentally flawed?

I decided that it was worth an answer since the implied security question is that his threat model is horribly out of whack

Scott Pack

@Iszi Fuckers

There once was a man from Nantucket. His nose was so long that he stuck it. Right in the ear of the lady next year. Whom he later buried in a bucket.

@ManishEarth How's that for a limerick?

AJ Henderson

@ScottPack wait, so they want $15 for something that can look for SSIDs? That seems a wee bit overpriced

ManishEarth

@ScottPack have a hat

AJ Henderson

since it's basically a regex on a packet sniffer

or am I missing something

Scott Pack

@AJHenderson It is a really nice tool, but that's a bit much I'll agree.

It's not that nice.

So what are we doing limericks for?

AJ Henderson

3:08 PM

@ScottPack yeah, I could see asking $5 for it

but $20 is insane

I mean, polish is worth a bit, but it doesn't look that polished

Rory Alsop

@AJHenderson It seems a lot like his previous question, to be honest. And your answer works on both :-)

Scott Pack

They also have other tools which apparently are well worth the money.

I've talked to a couple of proper network guys who use them.

AJ Henderson

@ScottPack do they have a bundle?

Scott Pack

I dunno

AJ Henderson

maybe they are intentionally pricing it out of reach to push people towards a bundle

hey look we have this $5 tool you can buy for $20 but if you buy this with our other $20 tool, it's only $25 what a deal

@RoryAlsop well I think it is a direct derivitive, someone pointed out that DNS would be a problem still, so rather than abandon his fruitless endeavor he's going further down the rabbit hole

we actually had someone like that on photography yesterday too

Rory Alsop

3:11 PM

@AJHenderson hmmm - I think your answer is good, but I may leave him a wee comment

AJ Henderson

where every answer we gave that tried to steer him away from his incorrect path just made him push harder down it

there's something amusing when they focus entirely on the 1 line you put in to actually make it an answer while ignoring 95% of your post that is screaming "BAD FUCKING IDEA" at the top of your lungs

but simply more politely

Rory Alsop

@AJHenderson I haven't been there in ages. Thought about it again this morning when I was dredging through old kit - found a nice 55mm Digital Filter...which doesn't fit my Canon lenses and I was going to ask about adapters...

Looks like it has already been answered though

kalina

wtb a star

AJ Henderson

hmm, another interesting observation I missed at first on that question. The ISP wouldn't know for sure that the iframe DNS request was related to his site

his clients just could often use google in another tab while on his site

but the fundamental problem is still his threat model

Rory Alsop

@kalina 'be' or 'buy' a star?

kalina

3:20 PM

buy

GIVE ME A STAR

FOR HATS

GREAT JUSTICE

AviD

@kalina If you can carry moonbeams home in jar, you'll be better off than you are

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Rory Alsop

@kalina Manish produced a limerick or two...

kalina

can I have some of what you're smoking?

AviD

OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SWING ON A STAR

Rory Alsop

earned his hat

kalina

3:23 PM

sets fire to @Simon

2

there, I earned my hat

GIEF

AviD

done!

kalina

yay star

AJ Henderson

have I mentioned lately what a very odd collection of people we are?

2

ManishEarth

@AJHenderson have your star and shut up :p

AviD

@AJHenderson I AM NOT A BUTTERFLY PINNED TO A BOARD

I MUST BE FREE

AJ Henderson

3:31 PM

@ManishEarth I already got an actual star

but I'm always happy to take another

kalina

fire.vad-systems.de/151

AviD

@kalina is that like the new hats? We try to collect as many as possible?

kalina

I don't know, it depends if you like being crispy or not

AviD

Finally something @Simon can excel at!

ManishEarth

@AviD As a mod you can game that :p

Rory Alsop

3:43 PM

@kalina I thought you had set me on fire, but apparently not. I feel left out...

AJ Henderson

@kalina wow, really, you've set avid on fire more than adnan

kalina

hey, what's wrong with adnan?

AviD

@AJHenderson That's because I'm nice. @kalina hates nice.

kalina

other than the obvious things that I cant say due to the likelihood of being banned

AJ Henderson

@AviD then why don't I have any fires? :(

AviD

3:45 PM

ahem. That is a good question that you should be asking yourself.

kalina

some people aren't worth my fire

AJ Henderson

:( :( :(

AviD

oh snap

AJ Henderson

how do you make the crying smiley which isn't really much of a smiley again?

ManishEarth

@AJHenderson :'(

kalina

3:46 PM

:*(

AJ Henderson

@ManishEarth that's more of a spastic reverse wink smiley

kalina

@manish jumping in with the sneaky edit just there

AviD

@kalina sad kiss?

@kalina no, its these guys!

►

Adnan

@AJHenderson :D

@AJHenderson I like your answer on the hash history question. It looks very familiar.

On a different topic: Happy new year, everybody. Leave your car keys home.

Lucas Kauffman

4:04 PM

Happy new year, may your life be prosperous and full of beer and boobies!

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AviD

@Adnan Unless you need to put them in the bowl.

Lucas Kauffman

Also who deleted my FBI comment :(

AviD

@LucasKauffman which one?

I think I deleted your TSA comment...

Lucas Kauffman

Yea that one :P

COULD YOU BEEEEEE LOOOOOVED AAAAND BE LOVED

No? Too early for Singalongs?

FEichinger

@kalina I already posted this here. Because I'm evil and ... something. I dunno.

TildalWave

4:18 PM

@Adnan HNY! But what if you need your car keys for the bowl?

dang, @AviD already thought of that

perv! :)

AJ Henderson

@Adnan yeah, I know it's the same as what you said, but I thought you were saying it very technically correct, but to the point that it made the simple point more convoluted

so yeah, I restated it in simpleese :)

I also gave you an upvote btw

hmm, looks like our friend with the messed up threat model isn't buying the fact he is misjudging his threat model

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