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12:39 AM
@BESW A friend of mine just told me he found an effective way to keep Jeovah's Witnesses away from his bell push. Last time they asked him if they could talk him about their Lord he said "only if you let me tell you about my lord Satan". They never came back.
 
If you don't say something obviously provocative like "Satan," they usually take you up on it.
We get lots of Mormon missionaries out here, and "You teach me about your beliefs for half an hour if you'll talk with me about mine for half an hour" is often accepted.
It can be fun!
Changes the context from preaching to sharing.
 
He wanted to get rid of them, of course.
I had Witnesses show up at my apartment when I lived with some other guys in a different town
we invited them in for a tea
 
Cool.
 
one of us had been reading their sacred book and was all "oh I like what you're doing" and they were so happy. We other three essentially lived in fear they would show up again and again XD
 
I've got a friend who had a pair of missionaries coming over for an interfaith prayer circle and chat every Friday night while they were on island.
 
12:47 AM
Mostly because none of us, including the one that said he liked their way (and later criticized all their opulence), were interested
 
M'rr.
 
1:16 AM
@Problematic [wave]
 
@BESW [cheer]
 
[duck]
 
@Magician [l'Orange]
 
1:29 AM
Thinking about Dream Park makes me want to work on Hounds of God again.
 
1:53 AM
Hi folks.
 
Hey.
What's new?
 
2:19 AM
> Every adventure has a core experience woven deep into the bits and pieces of narrative and interaction that compose it. Figuring out what that is will help you to give focus to the overall adventure as you write it and as you run it. You don’t need lots of detail, just enough to facilitate motion through the experience.
> Sample experiences include: Fleeing, Gathering Resources, Survival/The Gauntlet, Relationship Management, The Hunt, Escape, Cleansing, Investigation, Protection.
 
@BESW Source?
 
Ehdrigohr 272.
 
1 million for, 51 against.
@BESW What is that?
 
Interesting.
 
2:43 AM
[pins a Pierre Trudeau button to @BESW]
 
3:12 AM
@Metool Hm?
 
3:37 AM
@BESW Found an old button in a box of grandfather's stuff.
 
Cool.
But why do I get the Controversial Canadian Prime Minister button?
I'm not bilingual, I don't mouth profanities, I haven't to my knowledge negotiated the patriation of any country...
 
You've got style.
 
That reminds me of TSOY's mechanic.
Just vaguely.
Very vaguely.
Roll a 7? Your aristeia is at hand, narrate anything you want on your way to transcending your mortal existence.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:01 AM
For your imaginations: Mercury Thiocyanate
 
 
7 hours later…
1:11 PM
BESW has been automatically appointed as owner of this room. (What does this mean?)
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1:32 PM
You're the new boss, @BESW.
 
1:47 PM
I think that's not clear enough yet. @BESW, you got ownership. (XD)
 
2:00 PM
Hello @C.Ross
 
@Zachiel morning
@StackExchange @BESW Congrats!
 
2:18 PM
[blink]
 
@Aaron @Shkeil @Leokhorn there's a friend of mine who wants to play 3.5 and would like to play with us, GMT +0. Maybe he could solve some of our time issues (maybe) and we could let Shkeil go, since I sort of dragged him into this
 
Meet the new boss, chattier than the old boss.
 
@Problematic Is that lip?
 
@BESW Something something great minds.
 
2:23 PM
@Problematic Fools' thoughts something something.
 
So how's it going today, fellow fools?
 
Troggy and I did another session of the Ajani campaign.
 
Anyone else turned to werecats?
 
He was given control of the Temple's Contacts/Resources skills (+4) in order to choose and acquire a gift for the Pharaoh's birthday.
He did some research and investigation into historical gifts and what others were giving this time around (it's a closely guarded secret, because the temples compete).
 
Meanwhile Leilani (pictured here in my avatar) was having fun with a catfolk when a blood-dripping horse came out of the forests of Krigala. They went investigating and found some hunters hangesd upside down, their throats cut. I think the message was clear.
 
2:28 PM
Wound up commissioning a ceremonial three-bladed punching dagger in precious metals, shaped like a cat's paw, with the blades retractable, representing Bastet's dedication to serve the Pharaoh in war and in peace.
But in order to keep it a secret, he had to come up with a cover story (failed an Overcome roll, chose to succeed at cost), and so he now has a reputation for frequenting brothels.
This... will not help him overcome the priestesses' prejudice against him for being a male priest of Bastet.
 
Hrm.
 
Next time, we're going to the Pharaoh's birthday party!
Trogdor and I also re-talked the magic parts of The City campaign.
We're going for a much lower-key concept, a "spirit world" that provides a different perspective on things and --with practice-- a different method of interacting with the environment.
This will also help with the whole "crazy hobo" thing my druid has going for him.
Then we mocked the first episode of Continuum, enjoyed Police at the Funeral (with Peter Davison in his post-Fifth-Doctor career), and laughed at my chat room appointment.
@Problematic What's new with you?
Which Fate mod are you working on now?
 
2:54 PM
...did @BESW actually get all starred quotes on the wall for a moment there? Is that what happened?
 
This is what happens when we don't have Brian around.
The savages and the pony-lovers take over.
 
The savages?
 
I admit, there's not much difference.
 
But hey, that feeds thing can finally get resolved: "The owner can add and remove RSS feeds being posted into the room, change room name and description, and similar things."
 
Aye. Somebody dig up that meta post and I'll take a look when I've got a chance.
 
2:57 PM
At this rate, your coup will be complete any time now.
 
I guess one can't take many stars talking about how star wars episode V bores him.
 
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Q: RPG General Chat: vote for your feeds!

Alex PChat? Feeds? SE sites have associated chat rooms. This site's main one is RPG General Chat. Check it out! SE chat supports feeds, which shows up as little pop-ups from time to time. Since really we want the chat (like every site feature) to be useful to the users, it makes sense to have the us...

 
I still refuse to be a mod.
I'm perfectly content being Mistaken For Mod.
Okay, people take a look at that meta feed and vote, or add new stuff.
 
I follow a bunch of blogs in my own rss reader... But I have no idea if they'd be any use to others
 
Throw 'em up if they're RPG-centric and you'd like to see 'em.
We'll let the community vote and then I'll let the power go to my head and only put in the ones I like.
If you're not comfortable with that, mention them here.
At the moment I'm comfortable with having everything voted +4 and above in the feed.
The only possible contender below that is the RPG Blogger Feed itself, but since that thing's excessive frequency is the reason this post got started in the first place....
 
3:06 PM
I'm not in a state of mind right now to provide actual overviews of each blog, so I'll list them here atm.
The Id DM, Sly Flourish, The Walking Mind. Hm. I guess that's it, others are largely dead.
 
@AlexP Hi.
Anybody have opinions on those three blogs?
 
I'm sorry, I'm not used to read feeds outside of SE
 
So, let's see if I have this right. The general feeling is that the RPG Bloggers Feed is too voluminous, and contains an unpleasing amount of pablum?
(But mostly too voluminous.)
 
Well, that is my feeling and I tried very hard to make it the consensus. But I honestly can't say it is the consensus.
 
3:21 PM
Yes. Can't recall ever actually liking what I saw when I clicked, so I've stopped.
 
In the meta it's got +3/-2 and only one vocal supporter who feels that its volume is a selling point instead of a drawback.
 
My main complaint about it is that it's not really a cross-section of the RPG landscape.
 
Given that I've seen multiple complaints about the volume of the feed from people who aren't here right now OR have a visible voice in the polling, I'm comfortable axing it.
 
Let's try it out!
We can always put it back.
 
Even if it were all awesome stuff, the volume is irksome to many.
 
3:24 PM
BESW has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
 
If people change their minds.
 
Oooh, accountability!
But it doesn't say which feed. I guess you can continue on your merciless rampage unabated.
 
I like feeds that are convo generators, but in general I feel like RPG Bloggers hasn't been. I'll click on things and go, "Hmm. A product that's not very relevant," or "That's a post that's kinda just a very personalized situation."
 
@Magician's blog contains solid content, and gets an extra bump because it's from one of our users. And it generates conversations. It gets added.
 
I think ENWorld, while it's all content I don't actually care about, is a much better example of a "this is a big part of gaming so it should be here" feed.
 
3:26 PM
BESW has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
Deeper in the Game is the home of the Same Page Tool and similar insights. A blog linked that regularly seems like it can reasonably find a home in our ticker. (And it never posts more than once a day, sometimes only once a month.)
 
BESW has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
I also am unenthused by EN World, but it got five upvotes in the meta and seems relephant to our interests. It stays.
 
It's kinda the CNN of the hobby. Even if you don't like it, it's not bad to just have on in the break room.
 
Fantastic Maps got four votes, is awesome, and hardly ever posts anyway.
 
3:29 PM
BESW has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
I think this goes to what a list of feeds is actually good for: if your feeds are just two sites that update all the time, you can just read those sites. Lots of little things that update once a month that you don't check regularly individually are perfect for collation in feeds.
 
I'm comfortable adding the official Fate RPG blog because it posts rarely, posts important things, and many of our chatters will find it useful to have. The meta thread expresses concern about system-specific blogs, but it's not like most of our other feeds aren't pretty durn D&D-centric.
If anyone has an official blog dedicated to another RPG that meets the "posts rarely but well" criterion, I will be happy to add them as well. I don't think this is favoritism just because I like Fate.
 
BESW has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
Upon glancing over The Walking Mind, I find it to have a moderate posting rate and interesting thoughts on a variety of non-D&D games. It is not part of the meta thread, though; is that a prohibitive problem?
 
Add it on the Meta thread
 
3:38 PM
I'd put it on the meta thread first
 
I'm unfamiliar enough with it to argue for it meaningfully.
 
It's by Rob Donoghue, who is a part of Evil Hat, actually. Other than that, I can't contribute much, as I've only recently started reading it myself.
 
I suggest that @Magician or someone else add those three blogs to the meta post as soon as possible.
Gnome Stew received a fairly small number of votes--the same amount as the RPG Blogger Feed, in fact.
 
I'll do it tomorrow, or upvote whoever does.
 
But I fear that this is because a comment misrepresented it as being inactive.
Gnome Stew is already on our feed list; should it be removed?
 
3:41 PM
I've found Magician or Bankuei's posts useful, those at the Gnome Stew way less so
 
I've found that although some of its content is useful, the majority of it is not.
 
How many times in 24 hours is it giving feeds notifications?
[steps out for a second]
 
but maybe that's because I'm more interested in articles that clearly explain theory things I can link to others
 
Looks like once every weekday?
Its articles rarely feel fleshed out enough to be useful.
I'll leave it; one/day posting isn't going to be too disruptive.
Grandfathered in, for now.
Last blog to consider for now: Game Mastery is about GMing and designing a game. It didn't get enough votes to clear my threshold, but it's by an SE user.
I am inclined to add it just because it's by a relatively active user.
Any objections?
Compliments, complaints?
 
Our user, weekly posts. No objections from me.
 
3:47 PM
BESW has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
 
It's a brave new ticker feed, people.
 
Yay!
 
Feedback is important, so pay attention to how you interact with it over the next few days and talk about it in chat.
 
My only objection would be that for me feeds are to this chat like links are to a TVTropes page.
 
Well, it should have a lower volume but higher quality now.
 
3:50 PM
what did you remove?
 
The RPG Blogger aggregate.
 
RPGs blogger feed only?
oh, aggregate. That's why
 
Our feeds were rpg.se posts, ENWorld, Gnome Stew, and RPG Blogger.
That's it.
RPG Blogger was a massive contributor.
Anything else the chat's been needing for lack of an owner?
Snazzy name like The Dicelings, an event?
(Disclaimer: I will not re-name this room something cutesy unless overwhelming opinion approves.)
 
define cutesy
or at least give an example
 
Examples:

 The Overlook Hotel

General discussion for writing.stackexchange.com. Writing exer...

 The Ink Spot

GDSE's banter bin. Where we complain about clients, post cute ...
We've got enough people wandering in and expecting programmers or computer gamers without making the chat name a reference joke.
I will, however, fix the erratic capitalization and grammar of the description.
room topic changed to RPG General Chat: General discussion for the tabletop Role-Playing Games.SE [main-site-chat] [rpg]
 
4:05 PM
... New feed items.
 
Aaaaa, ALL OF MY BLOG has attacked us.
 
I thought I blocked that element.
 
Aye, the feed hiccoughs the first time or two that it updates after it's been changed.
I've seen it happen in the Fate game room, the meta RPG room, and the Ink Spot. It'll sort itself out soon enough.
 
I should not be seeing new feed items.
 
I dunno about @Metool's problem, though, because I've never tried blocking the thing.
There's bankuei and fantastic maps.
 
4:08 PM
Quick, someone name a pizza chain not exclusive to the USA.
 
Shakey's, I think?
 
@Metool Pizza Hut, Dominoes
 
@Magician Both failed the test!
 
What test?
 
The test whose sole question is "Do you deliver to my postal code?"
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4:11 PM
Asking a seemingly innocuous question and then declaring answers pass or fail based on unstated criteria is a quick and easy way to tick me off.
 
Sorry.
 
If there's one thing stack exchange is about, it's teaching you how to ask the question that'll get you the answer you want by being clear and precise.
 
Not exclusive to the USA is a bit broad, but the test made me laugh.
 
....I can cancel stars.
And pin.
@Magician Does the BESWpocalypse still occur if I force it myself?
 
@BESW That is, in fact, how it begins. We were fools!
 
4:18 PM
Fools may be useful in the BESWtopia. Provided they do not laugh at me.
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Any fool who laughs at me will be shown.
 
So, we either have to stop laughing at you, or stop being fools? A tough choice!
3
 
I'm glad the most active user was BESW, instead of some (fictional) jerk.
 
@Magician Indeed. And woe betide the fool who laughs while in an academy of any sort.
 
You don't laugh during class. You snicker.
 
The night is long and full of elephants.
That is to say, g'night!
 
4:24 PM
ttfn
I'm moseying slowly bedward meself.
 
@Magician Must be something relephant. G'night Magician!
 
@Zachiel Careful, don't feed the ego.
 
I fear my Youtube video has come to pass.
@BESW, have you gone mad, MAD! with the very moderate amount of power you now wield?
 
@BESW Making the ego explode might be the only way of defeating it!
 
@AlexP Nonsense. I've never seen so clearly!
 
4:28 PM
@AlexP I've found it amusing.
 
@JonathanHobbs Salutations!
 
@BESW [excessively fancy bow]
 
What is prevalent on your mind, comrade citizen?
 
e.g. "Must have 6 votes to feature."
 
I think we're in a trial period right now.
 
4:34 PM
For the modifications I just made, I set it at +4, unless the feed is from an rpg.se user or it's Gnome Stew (which is grandfathered in, for now).
If you scroll up, I gave justifications for each change to the feed as I made it.
I think it's more of a "feel" thing informed by the votes, really.
Like, Gnome Stew and RPG Blogger got equal totals of votes (until I removed my own vote for RPG Blogger, as I said I would in the comments).
But this is because Gnome Stew had a comment inaccurately claiming it to be dead.
And RPG Blogger had to go, because one of the reasons the meta thread was started in the first place was to get rid of the excessive volume of the RPG Blogger aggregate without gutting the quality of the ticker.
Chat opinion counts, and over the last weeks I've heard a number of different people (many of whom are not visibly represented by the meta poll) express strong annoyance at the volume of ticker posts.
 
@BESW I just read through the changes and I am very happy with this justification.
(I did not much like the objection on the basis it was system-specific...)
 
I see the point, and tried to evaluate it objectively.
 
So, remember Bargle from yesterday (and/or from playing the intro in Mentzer)? One of the BW people talking about him:
> In the 7+ year Burning Wheel game I play in, which is set in Mystara, Bargle (short for Bargellus) is the party's nemesis. In fact, we gave him the Nemesis trait: Whenever one of us shakes a fist and screams "Bargle!" to the skies, he earns a Persona point (used to juice dice rolls). He has a lot of Persona points.
 
Like I said, if there are other system-specific blogs that post "rarely but well," I'll eagerly add them. I don't WANT this to become the All-Fate Extravaganza, that's one reason I made a Fate chat room.
 
A bunch of my old answers are being randomly upvoted. It's like walking home and finding out that someone mailed me random thank-you cards.
 
4:45 PM
Hello @Lord_Gareth
it's because of the re-linking WotC caused
 
@BESW Well, yeah. It's pretty much the only Fate blog proposed for that entire feed, so...
 
Answers get to th front pege, new people read them
 
Far from that, it's just an excellent source of information for one of the RPGs people here actually use.
I'd feel pretty similarly if it were the same situation but, say, a Burning Wheel blog.
(and, well, most of our other stuff mainly focuses on D&D! We already have system specific blogs, and this isn't a special case)
 
Aye.
If there's a good Burning Wheel blog, someone should mention it on the meta post and when it gets a total of 4 upvotes I'll add it--sooner if it's written by an rpg.se citizen.
It's important to the chat's health that we talk about multiple systems and philosophies.
 
Githyanki Diaspora is good but I'm not sure I'd recommend it for the chat feeds. It's very much a one guy's personal gaming kind of thing. He's just really good at gaming.
 
4:51 PM
You can always throw it up on the meta in a post defending its inclusion (and talk about why it might NOT be a good choice, too), and see if anybody salutes.
Mmm, bed.
(Owner's asleep, post ponies in case he wakes grumpy.)
 
5:37 PM
 
6:20 PM
There, counts as ponies plural, I'm out.
 
....
 
7:03 PM
@Metool à_à true
 
7:44 PM
@Zachiel I can stay. It's true I was dragged, but it's OK. More we are, more fun we have.
I can't stay any longer tonight. Maybe tomorrow
 
@BESW what have I told you about the ponies???
Fixed that for you ...
 
8:09 PM
@C.Ross Would you mind removing your obsolete comment from here? I think it might be a little bit confusing.
 
8:50 PM
@Shkeil More we are, the harder it is to find a common time to play. Except Aaron who was the one asking me for a game, everybody will be subject to the hard law of when the majority of us is online
 
 
2 hours later…
10:26 PM
@AlexP done
 
@C.Ross Thanks!
 

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