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12:00 AM
our lab had one of those patent trolls on our back a couple years ago, luckily our university's legal agreements are nice and air tight
 
12:26 AM
it's interesting how that "question" continues to garner upvotes and there's fewer and fewer percent of downvotes on it every day as its total score increases and it remains linked everywhere on SE as featured
popularity vote FTW if I've ever seen one
I'm looking at it from here meta.stackexchange.com/users/166581/…
ah no bah I was looking wrong, I should have looked at all votes not just those that were counted before rep cap
nvm soz :)
 
1:27 AM
it's weird seeing so many upvotes on comments too
 
 
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6:09 AM
ok asked a question that I've been wondering for a long time now and is now bugging me a lot after seeing "The Expanse", it probably needs lots of healthy criticism to avoid being too broad and opinion-based -- please go ahead and edit if you wish!
 
 
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12:16 PM
@BrianLynch One thing that bugs me in "The Expanse" so far is what happened with all the water in the main belt, especially Ceres itself that might have more water (in the form of ice, but some ought to be liquid with detected geothermal activity) than the Earth itself. Orbital mechanics in it so far seem just complicated enough to give the impression of realism, more than being really well thought through.
And for a series with such a title, a bit too many things happen in close proximity in open space and in crowded places where life is supposed to be harsh and unwelcoming. I got a better impression of the expanse in Lem's Tales of Pirx the Pilot.
But I still watch it tho...
but there is no way to get such angular momentum out of a flyby of small bodies like they depict
 
 
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2:45 PM
I tried to find the tag wiki, and failed. I feel pretty stupid now, after trying to find it by searching trough meta and the help centre for about half an hour. Can somebody give me a link to it? :)
 
 
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5:04 PM
@Hohmannfan go to the main tags page, and then on any of the tags go down to the bottom right corner of its entry and a blue 'edit' link will come up. click there and you are taken to its wiki.
 
@kimholder Thank you! Now I feel really stupid for not noticing the 'edit' link
 
well, it doesn't help that it isn't there unless you hover over it
don't feel stupid. you aren't stupid :P
have some tea. with milk. :D
 
5:22 PM
@kimholder Good idea!
 
5:35 PM
@Hohmannfan Re your question, check for DE-STAR and Philip Lubin's work on it, there's even some pretty good videos with him explaining the concept and what it could be used for. I don't remember anything about its application for Mars but they did for fun calculate how long you'd need a class 5 DE-STAR to point at Pluto to melt it and that worked just fine, so I'm guessing that it shouldn't be a problem for a much, much closer target
A presentation should be in day one videos here icarusinterstellar.org/congress-livestream
try this
I think he mentions that in this presentation, but there are others ... concept works pretty much the same for all these applications tho, from beamed propulsion to planetary defense and terraforming
it's open access
 
@TildalWave Thank you
 
6:05 PM
An orientable energy beam capable of warming a planet, what else could you do with that? The first that comes in mind is "Flight of the dragonfly" by Robert Forward.
 
6:20 PM
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6:48 PM
@TildalWave yes, I also wondered why there seems to be a "shortage"
but still a fun show and feeds a hunger for somewhat realistic sci-fi
everyone hated Star Trek Enterprise but I loved it for the more relate-able humans
 
Does Echologic ever come by the Chat room?
6 1/2 hours to go...
 
setting up my weather shrine
 
7:14 PM
Hmm, seeing an astronaut explaining from the ISS how to impress girls by talking about yoyos physics makes me wonder about the selection process..
 
Imagine if he understood girls more than he understood physics, though. How would your view of their selection process be then?
 
Very good point :)
 
:P
 
But the social skills are actually quit important if you are going to live in a tin can with few people for months...
 
Maybe they're all yoyo enthusiasts.
 
7:23 PM
Or they like to make jokes about being nerdy enough to try to impress a girl with it
 
Maybe those things have actually worked for them.
 
He is married, so I guess it does works :D
 
Well, actually, every girlfriend I've ever had has liked the fact that I'm a nerd.
@Antzi There you go. :P
 
Same here :p
Nerds are quite trendy theses days actually...
 
Yeah, that's true, actually. I wish it was true when I was a teenager.
Well, to be fair though... the faux nerd is trendy.
 
7:31 PM
Well, I don't know. Theres always pros and cons
 
no it's just plain the best haha
lots of girls love dorky guys and I thrive on that lol
plus when you do something athletic it is that much more impressive hahaha
(not sure about yo-yo's though)
 
I don't know if that can really be considered athletic.
 
no I didn't mean yo-yo's
 
That's just another reminder that I need to start working out again. I'm in literally the worst shape of my life. It sucks.
Whenever I do anything physical, there usually aren't many people around because it's up in the mountains. :P
I don't think moose are very impressed by me. :(
 
haha well post it on Facebook lol
besides, it's almost better when you have that in your back pocket
you get her interested a bit then it leads to "oh wow, he climbs mountains too?!"
 
7:46 PM
Next step is you inviting her to climb together :)
 
I do post pics of the mountains on facebook, but I don't have many friends on facebook. I don't use it much. :P
@Antzi Yes, but it has to be someone who wants to go.
 
exactly! and that's no big deal, I just mean as long as you have pictures to share or stories to tell then you are good
 
I was with someone who pretended she liked doing that stuff in the beginning, and then after a while I couldn't drag her outside for a walk anywhere.
 
haha ouch
 
Actually, that astronaut also said that you don't want to hang around we people that at unimpressed by your yoyo physics knowledge
So take his advice and ditch that girl :D
 
7:48 PM
lol yes, exactly.
 
true!
I love Penn Jillette's quote: "I'm not attracted to a woman who doesn't find me sexy"
 
lol that is a good way to live.
 
totally
also love Marilyn Manson in Bowling for Columbine.. something like "do you really want to say that everyone in the world likes you?"
 
I've never seen that.
but I don't see anything wrong with being liked by everyone.
It seems unrealistic, though. :P
 
I know lots of people that I would really prefer they didn't like me
well at least in the sense that there are lots of people I do not want to be friends with
 
7:54 PM
In those situations, I think I'd just be more indifferent.
 
oh yea for sure, and I can be civil with anybody
but I'm very happy if some racist homophobe doesn't like me, or some chauvinistic oaf at a club
or Vladimir Putin lol
 
I really dislike the fact that this room discussion is publicly archived :/
 
etc
 
@BrianLynch fair enough. Yeah, that works for me too.
but Putin lol... he seems like he'd be a really interesting person to talk to.
 
Well... Putin is actually a good exemple since he is both loved and hated :)
 
7:57 PM
maybe...
Saddam Hussein seems more interesting
 
Well, I don't think he'll do much talking.
 
Interesting persons are always controversial.
 
that guy was a wacko
wrote children's books
 
Yeah, but the controversial people are not always interesting :p
 
yes, and now everyone loves being controversial
 
7:59 PM
I don't.
>_>
 
well not sensible people! but seems to be a norm now
 
Well, I think it's just that everyone is very easily able to share their opinions with literally everyone.
It has made controversy easy.
 
yea, exactly, YouTube and Twitter make one little comment blow up in the spotlight (but that is the media's fault too)
 
Or an archived chat? :P
 
:P
@BrianLynch well, media are just after eyeballs.
more viewers, more clicks = more money
 
8:02 PM
You can find everything about me on the internet ...
Especially if you look up my account
 
By googling for Antzi?
 
"There is nothing here."
 
yeah, or just looking around on stack exchange
 
:P
 
Tokyo, can't be so many
 
8:04 PM
See
 
Hohmannfan: Sørburøy, 40 persons. "Oh, that crazy space nerd". I also posted my real name somewhere in this chat.
 
I have some jazz trumpeter taking up the search results for my name lol
 
I have a web developer using my name...
I wouldn't mind if he wouldn't do PHP for a living
I don't really want to be associated with this kind of things :D
 
Warning! This user is involved in JS.
Unclean, unclean
 
lol
 
8:14 PM
Hmm... Norway
There's a slight chance I'll get a job there in a few months
 
That seems like it would be pretty cool.
 
Cool ? Do you mean Cold ?
:p
 
@Antzi What kind of job?
Coding?
 
Yeah, that's my job
 
@Antzi Cold is just a state of mind.
 
8:16 PM
You didn't found my Resume yet ? :D
 
You crossed Japan on a bicycle?
 
No, it's a lie
I just crossed half of it
 
Still more than most people, I think.
 
Oh, you found this on couch surfing ?
 
Was that not you? :P
 
8:20 PM
I had a hard time figuring out where did you got that info :p
 
 
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10:53 PM
Landing Zone 1 photo released!
They did paint an X! Of course they would, but nice to see it confirmed!
 
He should probably move out of the way.
 
He has time. 8:30PM launch, sunset at 5PM.
@Antzi The long way or the narrow way?
 
It's one of those things I wouldn't leave until the last minute.
 
@duzzy Saw it at first on my phone, thought it was a stand, only when I looked on computer did I realize it was a person.
 
It looks like he wants to try to catch it.
"I GOT IT!!"
 
10:58 PM
@duzzy You get the 1st stage, I'll get the upper stage.
 
I should stretch first.
 
@kim holder you definitely want to base your payload fraction off of past missions
maybe Chang-e would be a goodone
 
yeah, but i tried to figure out what it was for chang'e and i couldn't find anything
 
And echologics site looks like it is crumbling underthe load.
 
11:02 PM
total probe mass (including rover) is 3700 kg
 
Getting a 502 now.
 
lander dry mass is 1200 kg
rover is 120 kg
boom 10%
(of dry mass)
 
@duzzy 100KLbs empty, stretching just means you make a nicer puddle.
 
ah yes, there it is... but a different case no? the lander had a lot of instrumentation
 
@geoffc a puddle that didn't throw out its back.
 
11:04 PM
@duzzy You will have the moral high groun.
 
@geoffc The long way :)
 
High groin would have been a funnier typo.
 
lol it would have been.
 
Anyone else get through to spacexstats.com?
 
so the 3700 kg total mass includes all the propellant for translunar, lunar insertion, etc
@geoffc no 502 also
 
11:07 PM
@geoffc Narp.
 
Someone needs to explain AWS to Echologic. :) Let Amazon stretch and twist.
 
ho he's using let's encrypt too
 
And it is back for me.
Thought this was interesting: "T-3 hours. On a normal Falcon 9 launch, this is point when propellant loading of the first and second stages would normally begin. Of course, with the introduction of the Rapid Propellant Loading Sequence for Falcon 9 v1.2, this will now occur at T-35 minutes."
Tildal and I are due a Bronze tag badge for F-9. Finally crossed the 100 question mar.
 
Is spacexstats.com a SE user ?
I mean the owner
 
@Antzi Echologic
 
11:18 PM
Thanks
 
THis came by, F-15 lost a wing, and landed...
Old video, but a goody. On the topic of crazy landing attempts.
 
yes that is a good one
 
11:38 PM
@BrianLynch My 8 year old son wants to write a letter to the US Air force to protest their retirement of the A-10. He is a fan. We went to Cradle of Aviation museum in Long Island two weeks ago and saw an A-10 in person. He loved it.
He and I like the F-15 as well.
 
nice
I love the Warthog
H-tail, external engines
sporting the old teeth
often in camo
straight wings
 
There's a company in russia that let you fly in a mig
but it's crazily expensive :(
 
@BrianLynch You forgot that dang gun!
That thing shoots bullets that can penetrate tank armour!!!!!
That means it can penetrate pretty much anything mobile, period.
They had a bullet on display. The size of my sons arm!
They had the bathtub cut out, so you could see the extend of the protection the pilot has. I had read about it so many times, was cool to see it.
 
oh yea, I can't say I don't love the buzzing sound... just have some guilt about loving the war aspects of those machines hehe
oh that is crazy, you know how they make that?
out of one piece of titanium?
 
@BrianLynch Nah it is jointed. Let me attach the phone and show you the photo. (Gotta avoid pics of the kid).
 
11:44 PM
well maybe just a part of it (or a previous version), but they use an explosive charge to expand it out into a mold
 
LOoked rivetted on the sides from panels, personally. But now my phone is not being nice.
 
yea I can't argue with someone who's seen it up close, I did learn about it at some point, "explosive forming" is the technique
maybe they add rivets afterwards or those are fastening added components, still, that is a crazy piece of shielding
 
@BrianLynch Yep! It is cool! Ok, no good picture.
Though he really enjoyed the Nuclear free fall bombs they had mockups of. Surprised how small the casing would be.
The bathtub is on the right of the A-10.
LOok at the size of the gun on that baby! That is a kicking airplane.
 

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