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posted on October 27, 2014 by Chris Bergin

The Chinese have launched what appears to be the final satellite of the Shijian-11 series. Shijian 11-08 was launched at 06:59UTC on October 27, 2014, using a Long... Related posts: China’s Long March 2C launches Shijian 11-05 Long March 2C launches Shijian-9 tech demonstrator satellite duo Chinese Long March 2D lofts satellite duo

 
 
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Destination Station: ISS Technology Forum in now webcast live via NASA TV
 
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posted on October 27, 2014

The Orbital Sciences Corporation Antares rocket, with the Cygnus spacecraft onboard, is seen on launch Pad-0A, Sunday, Oct. 26, 2014, at NASA's Wallops Flight Facility in Virginia. The Antares will launch with the Cygnus spacecraft filled with over 5,000 pounds of supplies for the International Space Station, including science experiments, experiment hardware, spare parts, and crew provisions.

 
 
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Oww Theresa Hitchens was replaced by Jarmo Sareva as the director of UNIDIR. I actually have no idea if this is a mandated position and was expected but I really liked the work of Theresa Hitchens, especially that she made the questions of space security again a hot topic within the UN (and otherwise).
 
6:44 PM
I am trying to convince my wife, to let me and my son go to the GW Bridge, tonight at 6:45PM to see if we can see the Antares launch. Highest point we can get too, with a clear view near us.
 
space security as in the question about borrowing a rover?
 
@Everyone neah that's legal, i.e. if others say you can may, not if it's safe to do so
 
Erm. I meant - what kind of space security issues did the lady refer to?
:P had to go and replace 'can' by 'may', didn't you?
 
oh also legal, but procedural too
@Everyone yes :)
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A: What is the legal status of in orbit space debris?

TildalWaveAccording to the Article VIII of the Outer Space Treaty: A State Party to the Treaty on whose registry an object launched into outer space is carried shall retain jurisdiction and control over such object, and over any personnel thereof, while in outer space or on a celestial body. Owne...

follow the links in the final paragraph
 
So NASA can/may be sued by the residents on Saturn if Herschel bounces on them?
How much more propellant would the Apollo missions have required to make the Lunar Pole?
 
6:52 PM
No. Saturnians didn't sign and ratify the OST and are not a recognized state of the planet Earth
 
A case for Michael Smith then, that ...
 
@Everyone probably not all that much more, some apse line corrections but you also lose the "free-return" part before LOI
There's been many craft so far in polar lunar orbits, last one I can think of was Chang'e 3
 
Not orbit - to the surface I meant
 
Chang'e 3 landed ... Yutu
but from a near-polar lunar orbit
 
Just the one mission to the lunar pole/s then
Nothing to the Lunar South Pole iirc
 
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Virtual Telescope Project's coverage of Asteroid 2014 UF56 Near-Earth Flyby (0.0011 AU or less than half the lunar distance) is now webcast live via YouTube. More info here, or on the asteroid here
 
Ergo the landing site selection criteria are due for discussion too ...
right. i'm off. 'nini
 
@Everyone Ah Yutu didn't really land at the poles it just descended from a near-polar LLO
 
7:16 PM
So i.e. it could have landed close to any of the lunar poles if that was its mission objective. BTW for a polar lunar orbit required inclination change from TLI point is less than 1% as compared to shooting it towards its equatorial orbit.
Not sure what's with that 2014 UF56 event... we're still standing by now for over 20 minutes with no updates on the webcast. Telescope seems to have locked on the target tho.
 
 
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The Space Show w/ Mark Bray on the role of space in a congressional campaign is now podcast live. More info in the newsletter
 
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@ TildalWave - easing up on a simplistic question because i took it as low-hanging fruit and answered? Ya didn't have to do that. If SE wants to discourage things that are too simplistic, i can understand that.
 
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@briligg I just meant that the question would receive more helpful answers on physics considering lack of understanding demonstrated in it. For example, what is momentum transfer. Explaining that from a space exploration standpoint seems like a bridge too far.
Coverage of the Launch of Orbital Sciences’ Antares Rocket and the Cygnus Cargo Ship to the ISS is now live on NASA TV
 
9:52 PM
@briligg Also, I have no idea what you mean with "easing up". I did what wrong now? I posted my comment seconds after you posted your answer that I didn't see. I deleted my comment afterwards as I considered it irrelevant. What's your problem with me exactly? Let's get this out of the way, shall we?
I even upvoted your answer!
 
sorry, i didn't mean it like that - i wasn't clear. Actually, i asked because i wondered if i should have left the question.
Maybe it isn't helpful to answer questions that are better categorized on another page. I target introductory questions because i am capable of making a useful answer, but in the big scheme of things, maybe that isn't the best way. i was poking fun at myself with the low-hanging fruit thing. i wrongly assume people know i'm being satirical.
Did i really burn you that bad with the crewed-mission thing?
 
No, why? If it's deemed off-topic or otherwise more suitable for a different SE site it's merely migrated there, all of it, including its existing answers. And the question gets a note attached to it where it was migrated from and when. I see no problem in answering it from a Space Exploration standpoint and later migrating it to Physics.
 
Oh. Nice system.
 
@briligg No not really, it's probably me. I have to deal with a lot of crap so others don't even have to see it. Sometimes I get a bit annoyed by all of it and would appreciate some support from the community in moderation issues. That doesn't necessarily have to mean agreeing with me, mind you. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I'm fine with that, this doesn't put the bread on my table and I don't associate pride with what I do here, I don't even use my real name.
 
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Moderation takes a lot of time, and a certain touch. I'm sure you are appreciated more than you know. and i am deeply disappointed that TildalWave isn't your name. It has such nice, uh, Dutch roots...
 
I somehow manage to find the time for it but I'm still working on the touch part.
 
10:25 PM
Man, i didn't see the full detail of your feisty answer earlier until just now. Gee. I'll have to wait now to have a dust-up with you. I've missed my chance. What a pity, i enjoy the chance for verbal fisty-cuffs, as you witnessed when i defended my crewed position. Good for you.
I LOLed
 
Stu
lol settle down you two.
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10:44 PM
@briligg I aim to pleasure :)
OK back to the launch ...
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Q: MathJax basic tutorial and quick reference

MJD To see how any of the formulas were made in any question or answer, including this one, use the "edit" link to view the complete source. To quickly see the source of a single expression, right-click on it and choose "Show Math As > TeX Commands". (Note that in some browsers, such as Firefox, th...

re your comment to the Site Self-Evaluation thread on Space Exploration Meta
 
Stu
are you getting any audio from NASA TV?
 
yup
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launch is scrubbed?
 
Stu
sounds like it
some boat got into the safety range
and now the launch window closes in 3 minutes i guess
 
Damn that means I'll have to reschedule here too both for the new launch date and the post-launch press conf. Third time now for Orb-3 I'll get repetitive stress syndrome!
 
Stu
i can take care of it
 
10:58 PM
I was joking ;) That's fine, let's first establish when the next launch is. Tomorrow they can launch at 6:19 pm EDT
 
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haha
TOO LATE
 
ah you just removed them ... that's fine
 
Stu
and Soyus lunch in two days? tight schedule
 
I have to remove them for our community bulletin too anyway
aaaand done
 
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@StackExchange where did you get the time for it?
 
Stu
They said launch window would resume tomorrow at 5:19pm, but that's probably EST so i am off by an hour
 
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@Stu it also doesn't say when the webcast starts ;)
Quick correction! Tomorrow's launch attempt will be at 6:22 p.m. EDT #Antares #Orb3
 
Stu
well yea should i put the launch time or attempt to guess when the webcast starts?
i'll just but 6:00 pm EDT
put*
 
11:05 PM
attempt to guess ... usually it's at least 20 minutes before the launch window start, but NASA tends to start broadcast even earlier
 
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i will also assume the post-launch will be same time. i will change schedule if that changes though
ten minute window is pretty short :)
 
@Stu fine with me, and thanks!
 
Stu
no problem. i am going to get better at scheduling. and also moderating in general but you usually beat me to it!
until next time!
 
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NASA might be interested to know that we had their own schedule nailed down way before they did :)
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