The Pod Bay

the only dissipation is by radiation, so keep that down from external sources, and you should be fine... ISS has external O2 and N2 gas tanks installed on the Joint Airlock, for example

Nick T

are they cryogenic tanks?

TildalWave

based on their in-tank pressure here, yes: spacestationlive.nasa.gov/displays/ethosDisplay1.html

that's the "Quest Airlock" values

Nick T

1000-2000 psi sounds reasonable...but maybe low...for gas tanks

TildalWave

some other things to consider would also be the cryogenic upper stages, there are several

Nick T

yeah, but staging rockets is fairly brisk in the grand scheme of things

TildalWave

12:24 AM

@NickT dunno, I would have to check really, but let's hope someone else drops you an answer sooner than I'll have the time to

@NickT I know... thus the need to look into it more, at least for me. Maybe someone else could answer it off the top of their head tho :?

Nick T

one hopes :D

I do like my KSP propellants that never boil away, lol

TildalWave

I can think of a few regulars here that should be able to give you a good answer, then it just depends on when they find the time to. If you won't get an answer, I'll add a bounty to it or maybe find you an answer myself ;)

@NickT I really need to install me that game, I even googled for "KSP propellant" now LOL

hmmm.... what would "cold nitrogen gas" mean, I remember that ESA's Swarm sats will use it for ACS, so now the question is, if "cold" means "cryogenic" or just "not thermo-chemical expansion"

TildalWave

4:21 AM

I likely won't be here for the today's Dnepr launch, and I dunno if there's gonna be any streams available, but do check the Russian TSenki or the usual suspects (NASA TV, NASA Public, SpaceflightNow,...), about 15-20 minutes before launch window (07:10 GMT / 2:10 a.m. EST) for any sign of it ;)

... or search USTREAM and LIVESTREAM for any other live feeds

here's an official Kosmotras Dnepr site: kosmotras.ru/en/news/137

Stack Exchange

7:15 AM

NASASpaceFlight.com: Russian Dnepr conducts record breaking 32 satellite haul

posted on November 21, 2013 by Chris Bergin

Kosmotras launched a Dnepr rocket from Dombarovsky on Thursday, carrying the United Arab Emirates’ DubaiSat-2, thirty one other satellites – including Peru’s first satellite – and one attached... Related posts:Russian Dnepr rocket launches with Arirang-5South Korea’s Arirang-5 satellite was launched on Thursday atop a... Dnepr launches with Ukraine’s Sich-2…

UV-D

7:48 AM

@TildalWave!

@Undo

Stack Exchange

9:48 AM

astrobites: Bars as Drivers of Galactic Evolution

posted on November 21, 2013 by Becky Smethurst

Galactic bars have long been associated with many processes affecting galactic evolution. This paper studies how bars affect the star formation rate, mass and structure of a large sample of morphologically classified galaxies.

TildalWave

1:18 PM

@UV-D Hey there! You had some time off, enjoying yourself (and maybe others?)? :D

Hennes

2:14 PM

She wrote the most important astrophysics PhD of the 20th century yet hardly anyone knows her name... http://t.co/zDFs17MvJX

Tweeted by marcuschown on November 20, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Hmm, this room works with httpS:// postings for twitter. Some do not.

Or they fixed it. Super User's room now also works with https. Two days again (and the weeks before that) it did not.

TildalWave

2:27 PM

@Hennes It always worked for me, at least since I started posting tweets in chats, maybe started in the last quarter? :O

Hennes

I still needed to 'correct' a tweet from https to http somewhere in the beginning of the week. (In Super User's rootaccess room).

Which accepted an https tweet when I tested it a few minutes ago.

But non a few days ago

TildalWave

@Hennes Could be some problem with your HTTPS Everywhere, it's pretty buggy in Chrome

Hennes

Firefox over here (at least for SE sites and generic web browsing.).

TildalWave

I often force-restart the plugin, about once every two days of thereabouts

Hennes

With quite a lot of add-ons (flashblock, add-block, ghostery, Request policy, ...). But that should not affect the room from expanding a line.

TildalWave

2:31 PM

@Hennes Ah well dunno about FF, but I imagine if it's buggy in Chrome, it would likely have some problems in FF too. I don't use it as often tho

Hennes

I shut down (really shut down, not hibernate) my desktop each day. So I get a fresh room/client when I boot in the morning

But.. it works (for me) (now). So I am not complaining. I am just surprised.

Donald.McLean

Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin

Cecilia Helena Payne-Gaposchkin (May 10, 1900 – December 7, 1979) was a British-American astronomer and astrophysicist who, in 1925, proposed in her Ph.D. thesis an explanation for the composition of stars in terms of the relative abundances of hydrogen and helium. Early life Cecilia Helena Payne was one of three children born in Wendover, England, UK to Emma Leonora Helena (née Pertz) and Edward John Payne, a London barrister, historian and accomplished musician. Her mother came of a Prussian family and had two distinguished uncles, historian Georg Heinrich Pertz and the Swedenbor...

Very interesting stuff.

TildalWave

4:06 PM

@PearsonArtPhoto heh, I like your comment

@TildalWave: Yeah, but if one can entertain the fantasy that one can go almost light speed, let's entertain the fantasy that somehow we can deal with specks of dust. — PearsonArtPhoto 12 mins ago

Now... of course, the question is, where does our galaxy end? :)))

are we there yet?

tries: ~~IIII~~ ~~IIII~~ ~~IIII~~ ~~IIII~~ II

Everyone

burp

JohnB

Everyone is leaking D:

Everyone

eyes @JohnB auspiciously

What will the ~~Martians~~ Mars One Terrans breathe?

pokes everybody else with a stick

PearsonArtPhoto

4:28 PM

@TildalWave I thought you might;-)

TildalWave

has anyone been here for the launch, has there been any live streams of it?

@PearsonArtPhoto And BTW we have a new record ... 32 sats on a single launcher

nasaspaceflight.com/2013/11/…

PearsonArtPhoto

Yeah, I should probably go update that one.

Everyone

Hm. Given that our galaxy is moving at 'c' compared to another Galaxy - even approaching 'c' will probably not let us make it to another Galaxy

TildalWave

4:42 PM

@Everyone it's not moving at c compared to any galaxies in the local cluster

Everyone

@TildalWave Not yet (+: But aren't they receding too?

I think I just put my feet in my mouth ...

TildalWave

@Everyone You mean due to cosmic inflation? Well yes, but local clusters are also gravitationally bound

plus, you're talking in cosmological terms then, meaning ... none of us will be here to care about it :P

Everyone

Doesn't mean we can't talk about it (+:

Discussing c is sort-of like discussing Death, imo.

Everyone

4:57 PM

Is a SCUBA rebreather different from a PLSS rebreather?

TildalWave

to my understanding, not that much

gas mixture maybe, to avoid nitrogen narcosis with scuba rebreathers?

Everyone

Phew. Then the question on mixture is in order?

@Tilda What is the projected mortality displacement in the Mars One program?

I think I said something owrng )+: It's gone all quiet in here

TildalWave

5:22 PM

I have no idea... probably 100% like here on Earth? :P

Everyone

q+: come on. you know what I meant

TildalWave

I need to answer one question of @PearsonArtPhoto so he'll have to upvote me, he's catching me fast in rep for the week :) How's my plan? LOL

Everyone

the martian terrans will be exposed to high rad for several months in transit from Earth... and perhaps later too

TildalWave

@Everyone I did, but you know I had to make fun of it, right? :)

Everyone

Sounds a good plan.

TildalWave

5:25 PM

@Everyone that's the question I had in mind actually

I have some numbers

actually, I have all of them, from 0 to 9

Everyone

hmpf. You do realize that might have cost you my upvote on the answer to @PEars question

lol

TildalWave

damn, my plans are foiled!

Everyone

j/k (+: Go ahead and post the reply; i'll upvote

Btw, is there a question on the mortality displacement in the M1 program yet? If not, I'll get started

TildalWave

@Everyone I don't think there is, go ahead and post it.

Everyone

Cool

TildalWave

5:31 PM

try to avoid too many hyphens :P

you don't need some, like e.g. round-trip :))

Everyone

Can't be too many hyphens in "What is the projected death-rate dis-placement in the Mars-One space-colonization programme?" q+:

PearsonArtPhoto

Guess that just means I need to answer one or two of my own questions;-)

Everyone

5:46 PM

You could flag one of his instead (+;

Undo

Wow, this is going to be my first holiday season on SE.

I'm kinda excited for the hats.

JohnB

Tildal is already cheating

Undo

@JohnB Why, what's he doing?

prepares hammer

JohnB

He has a hat in his avatar already!

Undo

grabs tildal's hat, throws on ground, and stomps on it

JohnB

5:53 PM

oh wait

so do I D:

*hides*

TildalWave

@JohnB I don't yet have mustaches and a pipe tho... it's not gonna be hats only you know? :P

well at least on my gravatar ... I'm 100% movember ready otherwise ;)

Undo

My new gravatar:

Ooops, didn't work :(

JohnB

l o l

I thought I was playing spot the difference for a second

TildalWave

So what you're saying is it's time I changed my gravy?

Undo

6:08 PM

^ I'm getting a head start :D

JohnB

banned!

Undo

ducks

JohnB

(fyi you may already know this but you can prepend a ! to any url that should be an image and chat will parse it as an image)

um oops

Undo

@JohnB Oh, that's convenient!

Everyone

fries the ducks

JohnB

6:09 PM

REVERT

this is why I don't touch buttons

Undo

lol

JohnB

so, try !https://s.gravatar.com/avatar/9278dc00e1a8755dc2de02b6a908a15a?s=80

Undo

JohnB

yay

Undo

Wow, works!

> Suppose that in 12 minutes your supervisor can complete a task that takes you 15 minutes to complete. Determine the amount of time required to complete the task if you work together.

Well, it depends - how well do we work together?

:P

Everyone

6:20 PM

No q+: It depends upon how effectively you coordinate what you are most efficient at

Undo

I could spend hours on that problem alone.

TildalWave

JohnB

perfect

@Undo that's a terrible question, who's asking?

Undo

@JohnB El Math Book.

JohnB

just write Closed: Not a real question

Everyone

6:29 PM

@Undo Working alone, the supervisor takes 12m. Working against you (aka 'together' in supervisor-lingo) the supervisor will expect you to do everything, and explain what you do in detail. Call it a tentative 15 hours

(+;

JohnB

what if it's a supervisor of a bakery and it's making cookies that require 10 minutes to bake?

Undo

@JohnB Algebra II closed by Undo as off-topic: questions asking for numbers must demonstrate a minimal understanding of the problem being solved

evil laugh

TildalWave

@Undo 12 minutes ... you let your supervisor do it, while you go for an early lunch :P

Everyone

Those cookies are lunch q+:

Undo

why aren't you turning in your Algebra?

I put it on hold. You have seven days before it gets closed.

Wow, I'm not use to Stack Overflow anymore - everything's so much more fast-paced than it is here on SX.

ManishEarth

6:34 PM

@Undo hah, fgitw ftw!

TildalWave

@ManishEarth translation?

ah fastest gun ...

ManishEarth

Fastest Gun In The West For The Win

TildalWave

... in the west

Undo

Also, people seem to lose all ability to spell or make understandable sentences as soon as they step in to SO.

It's sooo weird not having mod tools / being able to see deleted stuff on SO.

TildalWave

@Undo it's for your own protection :P

Undo

6:39 PM

@TildalWave Probably.

Although I would have to say that there are some... interesting things get deleted on mSO.

TildalWave

mSO is different, you already have users there that can click more than 2 links deep

Undo

@TildalWave You would think...

Nick T

so is "patched conic approximation" the technical phrase for what KSP does?

Everyone

7:14 PM

Awake anybody?

sulks and goes to bed

'nini

Hennes

8:04 PM

Barely, and about to get some sleep

TildalWave

11:07 PM

@NickT Do you have Lagrange points in KSP? Patched two-body trajectories wouldn't include them

Nick T

There aren't; orbits in the game are governed exclusively by a single celestial body (at a time); whoever's "sphere of influence" you are in

Undo

Trying out a Dvorak keyboard - I can't really FGITW anymore :(

TildalWave

@NickT that would be patched conic approximation then, yup

@Undo hehe I tried that too and I couldn't type any more ... funny, how used we get to qwerty even tho it was actually invented to slow down typing LOL

Undo

@Ycnean<ak. C tbr,w pcidyZ

"I'd like to report a bug in your keyboard - it produces unintelligible text."

TildalWave

well... to prevent keys jamming on typewriters at least, with letters that are unlikely to follow one next to it

something like that

Undo

11:23 PM

Shog has some opinions on Dvorak, actually.

TildalWave

@Undo PEBKAC :P

Undo

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 1 hour ago, by Shog9

Dvorak: write more crap faster with less strain

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 1 hour ago, by Shog9

I think if someone snuck in and rearranged all of my key-caps randomly and then remapped the keys accordingly I could manage... but, why?

TildalWave

hehehe found this:

Undo

in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 16 mins ago, by Undo

Solution to the FGITW problem: Make everyone switch to Dvorak.

TildalWave

@Undo put server on analog modem?

Undo

11:29 PM

That would work too.

TildalWave

or... move it to Mars :)

Undo

Actually, make everyone write their answers on a typewriter and mail them in - that would work.

TildalWave

just add 20 minutes of network lag ... i.e. with each keypress a random youtube cat video opens

or ... make the site 18+

Undo

Sounds like an April Fool's joke.

TildalWave

oh, I'm full of great ideas ;)

Undo

11:32 PM

This is pretty obviously homework:

-1

Q: Trying to figure out why my program not working or what am I doing wrong

// // Wheeled.h // Wheels speed test program // // Created by Hector M. Santiago on 11/21/13. // Copyright (c) 2013 Hector M. Santiago. All rights reserved. // // Homework 3 Complete and submit to your professor for grading: // Define and implement a class named Wheeled that has properties...

cocoa

TildalWave

@Undo well yes, and he's obviously failing the class too

wrong college, he should have donkey riding major

Undo

Oh, I have a crazy new goal.

Get more helpful flags on SO than Andrew Barber within six months.

I hope he doesn't start declining them to thwart my plans :(

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