The Pod Bay - 2013-10-12 (page 1 of 2)

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12:00 AM

@Pearson Honestly, do you think we have a decent chance of graduating?

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Not for a while, but someday.

As in?

6 months, 1 year, 8 years?

PearsonArtPhoto

It's really hard to say.

I'm guessing at least a year.

In the mean while, I have a new icon for my next program.

user image

Nothing to go with it except the icon, but I'm proud of the icon so far.

I am too.

I might suggest you center the yellow circles on the grey ball, but other than that...

PearsonArtPhoto

Yeah, I might do a bit more work to it. Still trying to figure out exactly what I'll do, but...

6 hours later…

6:18 AM

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Q: Do we want software list questions?

We have a few questions asking for software recommendations and asking to list some of the choices. I'll be perfectly clear, from these three such questions we currently have, I personally have no quarrels with them, but they might be seen as something that is usually much frowned upon on other S...

discussion scope questions

7:05 AM

@Everyone and @Undo is this answer info-enough? space.stackexchange.com/questions/2175/…

7:29 AM

@UV-D Good morning (+/- 12 h)! ;) You're chasing the bounty huh? :P

@TildalWave well, I thought it was worth a shot

I jut like questions like that

@UV-D hehe sure, nice answer anyway

it took me almost 2 hours

lol

I think that the point about adding solar panels vertically could be used either case, due to the atmospheric refraction so high it shouldn't even matter which direction they're facing

true, that could also be true for the night side (another answer I did)

7:34 AM

and one major point I'm not sure is emphasised enough (although suggested) is the visibility

I should link to my previous answer

sure, a lot of science can be done without optics, but it's easier for most folks to relate to any such explorations IMO

about both those points

@UV-D Yes, that would be a nice touch

brb - linking

(that sounded naughty)

7:36 AM

not in my books it didn't :P

lol

it's always a good idea to link to other related answers, especially if they're from yourself LOL

there we are, added 2 paragraphs

mainly a combination of the wind and if the sensitivity of the solar panels is sufficient, then that glider could be effective on the night side

that answer exhausted me...lol

writing this other answer on astro astronomy.stackexchange.com/questions/624/… also exhausted me

and they roped me into the Amateur Radio.SE

@TildalWave by the way, it is 5:46pm Saturday here

@UV-D what no supernovae bursts?

pulsars?

AGNs? :D

it's only a part answer

7:48 AM

the big bang? :D :D

someone else can add those details

details ...

I'm just having you on :P

lol

sometimes, I try to encourage more answers by giving part answers

@UV-D 9:50 here ... up from 4:... something

am

I awoke at 4am local time as well

bleeding and in pain, but walked it off

7:51 AM

bleeding?

yeah, nothing serious though

ah good

still... bleeding? what from? (if it's not too personal)

I am tough

my mouth

internal bleeding - have been told to expect it occasionally

After cough? You have lung scars from pneumonia or something?

nah, from the stomach and oesophagus

7:55 AM

hmmm

but not as bad as it sounds (not nowadays at least) - 3 years ago I had multipl organ failure

almost met my maker (spaghetti-monstr)

Blimey what did you do? Drink some phosphorous acid or something?

lol, no, it was a 0.5cm gall stone that triggered the whole thing

ouch that sounds painful

the doc said I was 24 hours away from ...well... you know

that's the thing, I felt no pain

and that apparently is a very bad sign

8:01 AM

@UV-D: I didn't realize somebody already thought about it )+:

a month in and out of hospital, excellent doctrs, spectacular hardworking nurses and orderlies and I was almost right as rain

Yes they can be nonsymptomatic ... but blimey, 3 years after and still in pain from it?

@Everyone nor did I, but I found each article to be incomplete in a way, so I dug a little further - particularly about the electronics

@TildalWave Or make it a two-stage effort ; CSM beams low intensity lasers at the glider panels

@TildalWave oh yes, some permanent damage done

8:02 AM

@UV-D: IMHO you did a great job (+:

thank you @Everyone, that on took 2 hours, but I enjoyed it

sneezes Who pressed that big hexagonal ultraviolet coloured 'Climate Change' button?

where where?

@UV-D: Must have taken every minute of 2 hours (+: even longer. The call on CSi is a winner, imo

CSi?

8:05 AM

way out there! see? 3 low-pressure areas over the sub-continent. sheesh.
CSi = Carbon + Silicon (+: Silicon Carbide

aaah Silicon carbide

thunderstorms approaching here

@Everyone CSM? Dunno, sounds too ... complicated. And possibly unneeded if the glider would already be in the upper atmosphere exposed to sunlight... laser wouldn't work in lower atmosphere with critical refraction index

@TildalWave: Only for the night-side (+: right ... I utterly forgot the refraction index

the wind maybe enough to keep it aloft

@UV-D: Yes, it should be

8:08 AM

@Everyone you wouldn't be doing optical observations in the visual wavelength there anyway, so why not use above atmosphere orbited spaceship for that?

I can visualise a fleet of these gliders being dropped by an orbiting space craft

Day is terribly long on Venus... so there's no need for an aerobot to even fly in night regions

@TildalWave: True that. Any long term studies, imo, would sooner/later need to experience the environment first-hand

longer than a year, isn't it? hmm. ring-a-ring-of-roses

well some already did, and they weren't particularly long-term because of that

eh?

8:14 AM

Venera probes I think all imploded within hours, some within mere minutes?

:For other uses, see Venera (disambiguation). The Venera (Cyrillic: Венера) series probes were developed by the Soviet Union between 1961 and 1984 to gather data from Venus, Venera being the Russian name for Venus. As with some of the Soviet Union's other planetary probes, the later versions were launched in pairs with a second vehicle being launched soon after the first of the pair. Ten probes from the Venera series successfully landed on Venus and transmitted data from the surface, including the two Vega program and Venera-Halley probes. In addition, thirteen Venera probes success...

looks like Venera 13 lander survived for 127 minutes :)

Oh.. right. I'm still thinking of some well-known(unrelated) means that would allow the aerobot to survive that pressure indefinitely. The only thing that comes to mind is a lobster q+:

hehe yes maybe it wouldn't be a bad design

I mean exoskeletal

Yeh

OK ... sanity check, did any of you watch Gravity (the movie)?

Got to be able to work something along those lines ... I'll drop that line of thought for now. Chasing a thought that way in circles is a great way to come unhinged

Gravity? No. It's not screened in my part of India, yet

8:19 AM

@Everyone You have your own part of India? Should we address you by your title?

hmmm I don't know many Indian official titles and ranks and such...

maybe because I wouldn't be eligible to any LOL

@Everyone ? You still here?

ping ping!

another question ... should I post something similar in our own meta to this request from Astro.SE too?

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Q: Please, use capitalisation of proper nouns

This is my request for everyone to use capitalisation for proper nouns. I've seen it misused in many questions and their respective answers on our main Q&A and they often cause problems with understanding the nature of the question. I won't list any examples not wanting to explicitly point out an...

I didn't see it as such a big problem here tho... but maybe it'd still be worth mentioning it

You all also might want to check our own Space Exploration Meta, there's some threads that need your take on them ;)

8:41 AM

@TildalWave yes, please do so

@UV-D You saw many missuses of this here? I honestly don't know, I think I saw most on Astro

@TildalWave I have noticed a few (the teacher in me)

ah OK then... reposting

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Q: Please, use capitalisation of proper nouns

This is my request for everyone to use capitalisation for proper nouns. I've seen it misused in many questions and their respective answers on our main Q&A and they often cause problems with understanding the nature of the question. I won't list any examples not wanting to explicitly point out an...

discussion spelling

lol just made my mum and dad laugh

told them that for mum's 150th birthday (after medicine mde us all immortal), we are going to have a picnic on the plains of Mars - they love the idea

@TildalWave hmm making the product questions cw's or meta q's would hit my rep a bit... but I'll make it up elsewhere should the community decide that is so

9:29 AM

@UV-D I just wanna address this before it becomes a problem... there's some good reasons why we should be considering such questions off-topic but so far, we're not really littered with them. It might become a problem tho, if someone realizes their question was closed, and then points to these ones. I've seen that happen before on Sec.SE

hmmmm

i'll leave that to you guys in charge to decide

trying to answer the Iranian satellite question, too mnay damned conspiracy theories online (hate them)

@TildalWave I'll be able to make up any lost rep

@TildalWave I have answered 2 bounty questions - but overall (on all SE sites) I do not have a good track record of getting the bounties - so I answer them as Iwould any question that intersts me

I wonder if I scared off @TildalWave... such is my power

10:21 AM

heh no I'm still here, just browsing around a bit

Nobody seems to like my Gravity speculation :| I honestly don't know exactly what OP is asking about because I didn't watch the movie ... but I did find a review of it from an ex ISS commander, so I based the rest of my reply off his comments

link?

Frankly, the questions should be closed as vague, because answerers can't be expected to have watched some movie ... but that might be a bit too uptight really, so I'll let it slide

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Q: Is there no physical security in space, other than being in space?

I saw Gravity the other day and while visually and emotionally compelling, and besides the liberties taken with orbits, something else struck me as unrealistic, but I'm not sure if it is or isn't: the apparently lack of physical security on spacecraft. As for it's counterpart, I have a vague not...

space-station security

The questions reads to me as asking about some specifics within the movie... either that, or it's way too broad.

your answer is great - upvoted, your answer makes the question very useful imo

Well thanks, but I'm still not exactly sure what the question is? If it's "is space like Canada" then it's ... well, pick your close reason ... and if it's specific about the Quest joint airlock (or any other actually) using an external locking mechanism, then what I answered should cover it ... they don't, none of them

not even the toilet LOL

lol, just as well

10:32 AM

key locks are not really good security in tight shared quarters ... even on subs they rather have either combination locks or combine security of something with access keys and access codes

10:44 AM

@UV-D didn't you already answer one question that had bounty on it?

here on SEx.SE

yup, now I have 2 bounty questions answered

@called2voyage Have you read through @UV-D's answer on what non-plant organisms have been studied for colonisation purposes? I'm asking so you can work with @UV-D if there's something that still needs to be addressed and consider accepting his answer... so @JamesJenkins knows if it's OK to award the bounty that he offered. Cheers!

we'll see what happens - now to find something else to answer

@UV-D if the bounty expires then half of its rep is awarded to the top rated answer, but I imagine it took you long enough to research it to be worth awarding the whole 50 points, so it would be a shame if it was left to expire on its own

we'll see what happens

1 hour later…

12:05 PM

@TildalWave Had lost internet for a while ... happens a fair bit hereabouts

12:29 PM

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@TildalWave: Seen this spaceref.com/jupiter/… ?

haha where is that lot?

dunno I was just looking on net where that would be ... one car had a German sticker on it, and the other one also seems a German licence plate, so ... Germany? LOL

That's it then. We have proof they're consorting with aliens q+:

dunno what KA would be.... maybe Karlsruhe

out of my head, I could be wrong

Uhhh I'm not that familiar with their geography

Google says Karlsruhe

12:36 PM

> Karlsruhe is a city in the state of Baden-Württemberg, in southwest Germany, near the Franco-German border

@Everyone lucky guess

Only places I'm familiar with thereabouts (Franco-German border) are Alsace/Lorrain/Maginot

Now all we need to do is figure out a way to get those diamonds out of the core, and to Earth; that should spawn an industry if nothing else will ((+:

yesterday, by Stack Exchange

If the celestial sphere were mapped to the Earth's surface, astronomy would get a LOT easier; you'd just need a magnifying glass.

Look everyone, I'm on a XKCD! :D

looks

looks

there's a tilde ... see? with a black hole event horizon on it LOL

12:51 PM

lol, a wave of them!

Uh oh.

_scrambles to put some distance between himself, and @TildalWave_

Run UV! Run!

I can only waddle fast, will that do?

Just don't put too much pressure on Tilde, OK? The black hole will suck you right in, light not excluded :P

@UV-D: Good point. You're better configured for space than I; it's impossible to run in space )+:

lol

12:55 PM

@TildalWave: So if I can't see the black-hole because light it sucks in, does that mean it doesn't exist?

'o @Undo

lol

@Everyone if you close your eyes, will I not see you?

closes an eye

ôO

'O

12:58 PM

o-

hey @Undo I have answering in my magical way

Awesome

Very magical; you're good at this @UV-D

Hey cool. The auto-completion remembers the last person I directed a remark to, and makes it the first in the auto-complete list next time

lol

@UV-D: Really. try it out

1:01 PM

just hope they're good enough

@Everyone Ping!

Not for me.

You must be more betterer.

'o @Undo

@Undo space.stackexchange.com/questions/2175/… this one took 2 hours to do ...lol

What happenened?

@UV-D Now I see why you want me to look at it :)

1:04 PM

yup, I got enthused for a moment

+50 > UV-D :D

more beer!

even though I don't drink

Gonna sell it on Ebay or something?

lol

@Undo W00t

Beer? Give it to me. I'm plagued by molluscs ... almost!

1:07 PM

@Undo have a look at the comments here

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Q: Do we want software list questions?

We have a few questions asking for software recommendations and asking to list some of the choices. I'll be perfectly clear, from these three such questions we currently have, I personally have no quarrels with them, but they might be seen as something that is usually much frowned upon on other S...

discussion scope questions

back in a bit

a bit of what?

Mmm, I've had 5 flags sitting in the Astro queue for 13 hours... tsk, tsk.

13 hours... Hiss... Spit

flags?

which countries?

Comment flags.

The little drop down says that @Donald is here... He knows he can't hide from us, right?

1:16 PM

lol

no one can hide nowadays

@UNDO!!!

Hey @Undo, I saw your reply to the MSO stickers thread (I answered too), you're going to put them on your cat?!?!?

lmao

Yes.

I don't have a cat, but I will still put stickers on the patch of air my cat would be in.

LOL

I +1 on your answer there

cats... hiss... spit

that's what they do

I posted a reply that I would stick them all over my dad to convince him to join

1:31 PM

Lol

I saw it. I think I upvoted it too.

Yep, I did.

lol

I don't really have a leaky roof, but if I did...

But then the stickers would get wet!

only one side

You would have to make a bunch of sticker-shingles if you want it to work.

It would be cheaper to just reroof the house and spraypaint the SO logo on it.

yes that's why I need many

1:54 PM

Lol, have exactly 10,000 meta.SO rep, downvoted an answer in the 10k queue, got instantly kicked out.

lol hold on

I undownvoted, got back in... But it was kind of funny :D

lol, let me see if I can get you a buffer

Nah, don't serial vote me :)

no, just one

1:59 PM

Lol

I found that you had an answer amongst a few that were good, so I upvted yours amongst the others

:D

2:56 PM

@UV-D was it any good? :P

it was awesome

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5:37 PM

Evening all, been reading some space mags on my trip, some interesting topics!

5:52 PM

@RhysW Evening! Looking forward to new questions then :)

and/or answers :P

Of course! When time allows!

You had the time for your trip and your mags, didn't you? :D

:D im on my trip at the moment, sat in a villa in spain

read my mags on the flight / drive, makes time pass quicker!

Benidorm? Say hi to Delboy for me :P

Majorca! If it wasn't for this one crazy cat then the trip would be perfect

5:54 PM

hehehe nice, she's probably annoyed that you didn't get her a 5 piece swimsuit

9 piece?

oh, ninja edit :P

5 ... one bottom and 4 middle parts

not one per life then?

don't ask me how they're called ... knickers and bras prolly haven't a clue, I only care where they @Undo

badum, tsch

5:57 PM

@RhysW well that's then 7 sets of 5-piece swimsuits

it took me a while to get that, as i dont say his name like un-dough :L

@TildalWave 9 sets! cats are 9 lives im sure?

@RhysW last two, they might not need any swimsuits

... ok :P

plus, these two have already taken them:

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I really dont want to know why you have that image to hand

5:59 PM

NSFCW!

@RhysW I just googled for "cat bra" and enabled content filtering again to filter through the two piece swimwear

as you do

on a side note i logged in today to be spammed with notifications!

oh yes I won't deny that

@RhysW you're a mod now, better get used to it ;)

fools! trusting me with a diamond :P

you might wanna change your settings to be notified by email more often... I mean, whatever suits you better, it's just a suggestion where some tweaking can be done

I would but I'm having issues with my email at the moment, so I think notifications are safer til i have that worked out

6:07 PM

ah they're not removed as notification here when they're emailed ... it's just duplication really, but might be sometimes more convenient

ah i see, on a side note I think i might just subscribe to these three magazines i picked up for my trip, they turned out to all be pure gold

@RhysW titles?

you probably already have them, they are popular ones

All About Space, Focus, Scientific American

Something like that, I'm remembering off the top of my head

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