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10:16 AM

@ErinAnne one question is whether doing so will actually stop any AI training scraper from also just scraping an alternative site

Considering IIRC a lot of the training on SO happened before any sort of partnership

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TheMatrix Equation-balance

3:19 PM

@fyrepenguin - I am still in the dark what the issue with AI scrapers is. Stackexchange is often in the top Google search results, so, it is well positioned to be scraped.

If I borrowed some ideas from Stackexchange for my published article, what is wrong with that? I can not make a reference to Stackexchange because it is not a peer-reviewed material. And they don't need my back-link, their SEO is already on the top.

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fyrepenguin

5:24 PM

@TheMatrixEquation-balance attribution. And if you use ideas from StackExchange, you should probably cite it. It’s not just SEO, its (1) the license of the content and (2) potentially plagiarism not to

A: Should I cite non-peer reviewed work that helped in my research in a peer-reviewed publication?

Actually you must cite it to avoid plagiarism. It doesn't matter whether it is peer reviewed or not, the ideas are those of another and you need to avoid suggesting otherwise. But, using non peer reviewed material puts the burden on yourself to verify the accuracy of what was said there. On the o...

TheMatrix Equation-balance

5:58 PM

After I got rejected from several journals by reviewers complaining about references to not peer-reviewed content, I have removed all the references to Wikipedia and other sources.

fyrepenguin

@TheMatrixEquation-balance did you remove the citations or the citations and the content you previously cited?

TheMatrix Equation-balance

@fyrepenguin - For example, I was going through all my Wiki references, trying to find original sources, or peer-reviewed sources that at least remotely resemble the content on the Wikipedia page.

And it makes sense. The technical parameters of the Raptor engine I've referenced from Wiki have changed many times since then. Scientific research cannot rely on this kind of data.

fyrepenguin

7:05 PM

Ok, that does make sense. From the first reading it was unclear whether “references” meant “citations” or “content from”

However, there are sites (including math and physics) that literally have a built-in cite button, so there are absolutely cases where one would cite StackExchange