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12:36 AM
Fabric of the day: samite (Russian аксамит, Ukrainian оксамит)
Samite was a luxurious and heavy silk fabric worn in the Middle Ages, of a twill-type weave, often including gold or silver thread. The word was derived from Old French samit, from medieval Latin samitum, examitum deriving from the Byzantine Greek ἑξάμιτον hexamiton "six threads", usually interpreted as indicating the use of six yarns in the warp. Samite is still used in ecclesiastical robes, vestments, ornamental fabrics, and interior decoration.Structurally, samite is a weft-faced compound twill, plain or figured (patterned), in which the main warp threads are hidden on both sides of the fabric...
> The word was derived from Old French samit, from medieval Latin samitum, examitum deriving from the Byzantine Greek ἑξάμιτον hexamiton "six threads", usually interpreted as indicating the use of six yarns in the warp.
Did they pronounce the first "h" in hexamiton, or was it closer to "examiton" in pronunciation?
 
 
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2:35 AM
@CowperKettle The h sound may have been lost by that time, I don't actually remember.
 
 
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4:16 AM
I wonder what percentage of people asking questions on ELL--not ELU, mind you--end up less informed when their question is answered.
Far too many answers take the form: "I'm a native speaker, trust me bro. [... Insert fire hose of nonsense ... ]"
Or people presenting their entirely subjective and arbitrary opinions and intuitions as The Truth
ELU is better. Usually. At least people tend to call you out on BS.
 
 
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7:36 AM
≥ 50%
 
7:59 AM
 
8:39 AM
"Am I a spy in the land of the living, that I should deliver men to Death?
Brother, the password and the plans of our city are safe with me; never through me
Shall you be overcome." (Millay of the Day)
 
 
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11:16 AM
> “We have developed a method that can help people develop greater persistence and belief in their ability to achieve their goals,” says Professor Hermundur Sigmundsson. (Sigmundsson. Probably a far-off descendant of the famous Viking psychotherapist Sigmund Freudusson). norwegianscitechnews.com/2024/03/…
 
11:47 AM
I remember seeing a lot of these in 2012, after Putin suppressed massive street rallies protesting the so-called elections
 
11:58 AM
@CowperKettle Spoiler.
 
12:12 PM
@jlliagre Oh! I'm sorry
 
12:33 PM
 
1:00 PM
#WhenTaken #22

I scored 727/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 9.0 metres - 🗓️ 0 yrs - ⚡ 200 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 214 km - 🗓️ 23 yrs - ⚡ 127 / 200
3️⃣ 📍 3941 km - 🗓️ 3 yrs - ⚡ 125 / 200
4️⃣ 📍 648.9 metres - 🗓️ 8 yrs - ⚡ 189 / 200
5️⃣ 📍 1628 km - 🗓️ 24 yrs - ⚡ 86 / 200

https://whentaken.com
For some reason, I was quite accurate for #1 ;-)
 
1:10 PM
Odd psychiatry term of the day: hypermetamorphosis, characterized by Ozawa et al. as "an irresistible impulse to notice and react to everything within sight".
 
@CowperKettle In English? Why?
 
@Robusto Because cutting the first letter from революция will not produce evolution
 
Well, that's my point.
 
еволюция will strike any literate Russian as grammaticaly wrong
The proper spelling is эволюция
 
But do enough Russians speak English well enough to make that sign work?
 
1:18 PM
Yes
They don't speak English, but English signs are everywhere and English songs etc.
I remember the word Metallica painted in impressive style on the wall in the staircase of my apartment block in Noyabrsk
And it was in 1986
And a lot of products had English things written on them, like Moskvich on Москвич cars
Because some cars were exported abroad
 
I never saw a Moskvich car.
 
The factory started with producing Ford A cars rbth.com/science-and-tech/332497-moskvitch-moscow-car-plant
 
1:43 PM
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1:56 PM
Curious that the most emotionally connected words were still recognized
 
2:14 PM
#WhenTaken #22

I scored 725/1000 🎉

1️⃣ 📍 452 km - 🗓️ 2 yrs - ⚡ 170 / 200
2️⃣ 📍 470 km - 🗓️ 10 yrs - ⚡ 157 / 200
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https://whentaken.com
@jlliagre Why, did you take that picture? ;-)
 
@alphabet I've seen answers at +1 on ELL that are blatantly wrong, to the point where I'm surprised that the poster was able to form an answer in coherent English in the first place having such a flawed understanding of the language. It's disappointing
 
@Laurel Possibly the OP upvoting as a "thanks for participating" acknowledgment?
 
Possibly (can't remember whose questions these might have been posted to). I wish they wouldn't tho
I do see similar errant upvotes on ELU too, but the difference is that they also have downvotes
…which possibly means the upvotes are to make the poster feel better, which also isn't good
 
Sometimes people can't formulate a cogent question or determine the quality of an answer.
@Laurel Well, good luck trying to fix that!
 
2:58 PM
@Robusto Yes, you can say that again (determine the quality of an answer). Did you happen to see the recent kerfluffle re the Colette Chéri question in Literature? I tried to avoid actually answering by posting a comment with my objection to the use of "racially insensitive" in that context. I got a mod email for that reminding me of the function of comments.
Then, I answered the question with a lot of back-up references and my own opinion and now they have locked my answer. However, I stand by it. And I fail to see what is really controversial in my answer. It is not my fault the OP asked a naive question.
@Laurel Speaking of kerfluffles (on ELL this time), the question was this: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/349924/… I answered at what I thought was an appropriate level of a ELL with the Wikipedia explanation.
Then, the honchos became involved. A major "thing" broke out between 2 or 3 of them. My answer only got 3 votes but the answers citing other examples without any grammar-based attempt to answer the question got the most votes. Go figure.
Also, this view that opinions cannot be a basis for an answer is often BS for English usage at the ELL level and Literature. For the ELL, highly educated native speakers are a reference in and of themselves AND for Literature, ain't it all opinion?? :)
[correction: for an ELL question]
In conclusion, I've decided to go out into the garden and eat ____. Fill in the blank. :)
 
3:28 PM
@Lambie Well, yeah. Therein lies the flaw of the entire SE network. Even posts on tech sites can be opinions (which is faster, what's cost-effective, etc.) but when it comes to literature it's almost all opinion.
 
@Robusto I just wonder why they dreamed up the opinion thing. It makes everything into things with a one-to-one relationship with reality. So silly. Language is not things.
 
Well, language is a thing, but it's a thing the way hair color/body shape/health/etc. are things. No two people are exactly alike in every respect, not even twins.
 
@Lambie Unfortunately, I only saw it after the last now-deleted comment was posted
 
@Robusto Language is not in the real. It's in the symbolic. I didn't say the real at first as the term is often misunderstood but now I'm saying it. :)
@Laurel Which one?
 
@Lambie I've seen too many answers where one was "in my opinion, X" and the other was "in my opinion, not X" for me to really like answers based off the top of one's head. When I write answers, I try to find evidence to support X and also disprove "not X" (assuming they're not both true, a false dichotomy). In a surprising number of cases, I've learned that there are native speakers who use English in ways I've never heard before
@Lambie After the last comments that were posted yesterday (according to their timestamps). Don't think I should quote them given that they're deleted
 
3:41 PM
@Laurel Sure, Laurel. But let's just live with ambiguity as opposed to trying to say that some opinion from the Internet by some "expert" is any better than our own. //I'm just asking which question not the actual comments. [sigh]. I didn't understand what you were referring to.
 
@Lambie It's pretty obvious the blank should 'worms'.
Very vulgar.
I'm surprised at you.
 
@Mitch Vulgar? You're kidding, right? What a hoot.
 
@Lambie Oh, the one on ELL. I think responded to the message where you mentioned it
 
@Lambie Most (good) soil is basically worm poop.
Or rather leafs and sticks and stuff it went in one end and came out 'soil' the other.
Worms are gross.
 
@Mitch She shoulda just gone intransitive :p
 
3:45 PM
Eat one, you'll never eat one again.
 
But the saying is not to eat the soil. It's to eat the worms. And goes to false humbleness. Geesus, you guys.
 
@Laurel just 'eat'? Yeah nobody wants to see someone else eating.
@Lambie Aw man don't get me started on Jesus.
 
@Laurel Laurel, you are missing my point completely. The ""fight"" is still there. Only the comment about trolls was removed and it is not germane to my point, anyway.
 
@Lambie Symbols are things too. Everything is something.
 
@Lambie I read through the comments and left the ones that seemed to be criticisms of your answer (or at least tried to lol, so many comments), since that's what comments are for
 
3:51 PM
@Robusto I am saying that language is not a thing like a chair or table. Language is in the symbolic order. [See Lacan]
 
@Robusto Dude that light is too bright! Tone it down man.
Too much thinking this early in the morning.
 
@Laurel So when you say they had been deleted, you were the one deleting?? That's fine, I don't care but again: You are not responding to the point I was making about questions getting upvotes when they don't really deserve them. And I remind you: you brought up the issue.
 
@Lambie "I refute it thus"
(that was in your favor)
 
But whaddaduz it mean?
 
@Lambie This is unproductive. You keep adding qualifiers to your original statement. If you're going to be concerned about details out to six decimal places, then you should state those things up front.
 
3:54 PM
But there is an argument to be made, possibly tenuous, that at -some- level, that hard physical objects and something about language is the same.
Very tenuous.
 
@Mitch Everything that exists is a thing of some kind. That's all I'm saying.
 
@Robusto This is chat. We're here to talk at length on so many decimal places.
@Robusto There might be a little more to it than just 'existing'.
 
@Mitch But if you're going to use those decimal places then reveal them up front. This isn't a guessing game.
 
@Robusto I think it kinda is.
 
@Mitch Does language exist?
 
3:56 PM
If we had all the answers, we'd write them all down and then just refer to the book.
Even the book is an approximation.
 
@Mitch OK, I refuse to play. I have enough puzzles that are crafted by experts, so I don't really need the random ad hoc scramblings.
 
@Robusto I explained. But here you go: Reality and the real are not the same thing at all. Try this: If you remove a book from a row of books on your shelf of books. What would you say? A book is missing? Answer: no, because nothing is missing in the real. I was trying to be gentle, but that is the hard fact.
 
Give me the last digit of ...
e
not pi
that's too easy. it's been asked and answered before.
genref
 
@Lambie Semantic games.
@Mitch OK, e is the last digit of me.
 
No, Roberto, NOT AT ALL. ha ha. Ask any good mathematician or physicist.
 
3:59 PM
@Lambie We must disagree.
 
Another example: Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
 
@Robusto OK man you win this one.
 
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@Lambie Eh, not just me deleting. But I can't control the upvotes on answers (other than my own), didn't even really look at the other ones on that question
 
@Lambie I don't read French so all I can guess is that you're talking about chick peas?
@Lambie pfft physicists
 
4:00 PM
I'm having a hard time following chat since I'm doing other stuff rn too
 
@Laurel That's cool, we're having trouble too.
 
@Robusto try this one: language is a Vol de Mort phenomenon (that which cannot be named). Whatever you say in language does not coincide 100% with what is there, what you see or even feel. Language is metonymic (except math). The minute you are in language (speaking or writing), you are not describing the real. It can only be pointed to.
 
@Lambie I have no idea what you're talking about, and I will not be patronized. Let's just leave it at that.
 
@Lambie I could make (a very strong) case that math is metonymic too.
Here is that (very strong) case. Also it is short. It's not a proof, but it is convincing. You'll see. Wait for it...
 
@Robusto Too bad. Trying to explain a concept is not patronizing.
 
4:06 PM
If math were not metonymic (which is to say if it were to fully describe all concepts, not just reflect a part of it), then there would be no reason for further exploration of math, it would be done.
Since math is not 'done' (we have more things to discover) it is not 'not metonymic'.
QED
 
@Mitch There's no slippage in mathematical languages. Don't confuse disagreement between mathmeticians with the real. Of course, there's disagreement.
 
I said I wasn't gonna prove it rigorously but it seems I have.
I'm not gonna say I'm proud of myself, but I am gonna think it.
 
Nope. Try the bookshelf. Nothing is missing in the real and the fact we can't "grab" it, is the proof. Only indirect.
 
@Mitch A non-denial denial. Bravo. Was that metonymic?
 
@Lambie Mathematicians don't disagree on facts. They may have personality conflicts and fashion statements but facts is facts.
They just don't have -all- facts.
@Robusto I'm thinking it was more synechdochal. But, sure, thank you.
 
4:11 PM
See, you went to the bookshelf for a denial, but the denial was gone. Was it real? Who knows? Who cares?
 
@Lambie I kinda don't get that nothing is missing in the real.
 
Come on, now. Why do you think they disagree? They disagree about how to solve this or that formula. That space they disagree in occurs in language but their equations are not metonymic.
 
@Robusto Well, I think I lent it to someone. And they've never given it back.
 
Is that a bad thing? If it is, then it's definitely a thing.
 
@Robusto Bad things are still things. No need to punish them with non-existence.
 
4:13 PM
@Mitch All I can do is suggest it. Try the bookshelf example I have. If you remove the book, some will say: the book is missing. Right? Well....no.
 
@Lambie The book is surely missing from that bookshelf once removed.
If it is not, then you're using these words differently from what most people expect from them.
 
The real is not the adjective real. Nor is it reality. It goes to the basic impossibility of everything or completeness.
 
You know what -is- missing? Food in my stomach.
Oh rather -enough- food in my stomach.
 
How many pins can dance on the head of an angel? Are thoughts things? Are things thoughts?
 
I just had lunch but now I still would like something more.
 
4:16 PM
@Mitch Careful, too much food leads to too much stomach.
 
@Lambie That's gonna need -a lot- of explanation that I don't think we can presume for you to give us. Probably involving a lot of philosophical 'redefinition'.
@Robusto Yes!
Sorry, my team just won the sportsball game.
What were you saying?
@Robusto I disagree: proof by analogy.
The stomach is like a balloon. If you put more air in the balloon, the space it takes up increases. But the balloon itself just stretches - there is no more balloon before or after blowing it up.
In other news, a white horse is not a horse.
I mean some horses aren't even horses.
Maybe they're a pony.
My sister had a pony when we were kids.
 
> [Duns] Scotus argued that we cannot conceive of what it is to be something, without conceiving it as existing. We should not make any distinction between whether a thing exists (si est) and what it is (quid est) for we never know whether something exists unless we have some concept of what we know to exist.
 
Or rather, she 'had' a pony with another girl in the neighborhood whose family had a huge property (or was it unclaimed flood land?). And the two of them took care of the pony together.
 
But that is an opinion, right? And opinions are things, right? Whether a book is where expected or not is an opinion. Opinions, perceptions, attitudes, symbols, theorems—all things.
 
@Robusto Like unicorns? or leprechauns?
Duns Scotus was a dunce.
 
4:22 PM
I knew you were going to go for the cheap shot.
Low-hanging fruit, easy pickings.
 
@Robusto I take what I can get.
wait the duns/dunce thing or the leprechaun thing?
 
@Mitch You need to grow a little more. Then you can reach the higher fruit. Which is, by the way, a thing.
@Mitch The former.
 
@Robusto both the actual fruit and the metaphorical top-shelf fruit.
which is another metaphor.
 
Metaphors are things.
Arguments are things.
Math consists of a whole bunch of things.
 
@Robusto I have this vague feeling that the wizards pointed cap with stars and comets on it was inspired by what Duns Scotus wore.
A literal dunce cap.
 
4:25 PM
Now you're reaching, but still not getting the higher fruit.
Enough. I must practice the (real) piano. Ciao for niao.
 
I have fond memories of being 3 years old and having committed some vile transgression (leaving the screen door open?) being told to go stand in a corner with a dunce cap on.
@Robusto An uncountable number of things. Literally.
@Robusto You're a better man than I am.
 
Did you really have a dunce cap?
 
@Cerberus My memory of things was that I only ever wore it once (when I got in trouble that one time).
My vague intuition was that we -had- it already, so maybe my older brother or sister had to wear it when they were in trouble.
 
Fascinating!
Did it work?
 
It seems so comical now, very 19thc.
 
4:34 PM
Yeah.
But why not.
It is a painless punishment.
 
@Cerberus I think the liberal punishment of they day was standing in a corner (which eventually morphed into 'time out' but I never experienced myself). I remember more than once having to go stand in a corner.
So my vague impression is that it takes being punished more than once to fix everything.
 
Standing in a corner is practised here as well.
@Mitch And now you're fixed.
 
@Cerberus It's better than being beaten, yes.
 
Exactly.
Or being screamed at.
 
@Cerberus Mostly with glue and a number of missing pieces.
 
4:36 PM
Or being forbidden from going clubbing.
 
But if @Lambie is to be trusted, those pieces are still somewhere.
 
@Mitch That is better than some other senses of fixed.
 
@Cerberus Yeah, I think 'time out' is good for both the perpetrator and caregiver.
@Cerberus I didn't go clubbing when I was 3 years old.
I was a pretty sedate child I suppose.
 
For me a big punishment was when I was Sent to My Room.
@Mitch Quite.
 
@Cerberus You'd be shocked at where the empty places are.
@Cerberus I think I had to do that when I was older (preteens).
I think I kinda cheated with the standing in a corner thing. I'd just sit down in the corner and face outwards.
 
4:41 PM
@Mitch What a terror child.
 
@Cerberus But if I can restore my 'coolness', I did try to run away from home when I was 3.
Did I tell you that story already?
 
Hmm I don't think so!
Try: why did you fail?
 
OK here goes...
 
How far did you get?
 
@Cerberus Well, I'm here where I am now so...
One day I was running around outside with my sister and a neighbor friend of hers. I can picture it in my mind fairly clearly.
 
4:44 PM
In Dutch, you can use once that way.
Eens.
 
At one point my sister says to me that she and her friend were planning on running away together and wondered if I would like to join them.
As memories go, that was the end of that scene.
 
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Then later that night, I pretended to fall asleep until there was no noise in the house and I went out the back door.
I shut the back door as quietly as I could, all the while wondering what I would do for food. I imagined maybe bringing a can of something but I was already outside so on to the next part.
 
Exciting!
Why would you ever do that unless you were angry?
At least I would never dare such a thing.
Never would have.
 
I walked down the path in the back yard that led to a gate that would open to the front yard where, presumably, freedom and the future were.
 
4:49 PM
Freedom to pace around the full section of some old man's concrete cellar.
 
As my hand was on the gate latch and I was figuring out how to work it (I was three years old)...
... the back door opened and my dad stepped out.
He asked me what I was doing.
I said that I was running away.
He said that I should come back inside.
So I did.
 
Haha aww.
Such a meek runaway.
Still quite the potential adventure.
 
Thinking back on it I'm glad my dad had come to the door (which I had probably made a racket opening and closing and slamming the screen door and such).
Because I really had no conception of what I would have done if I had gotten that stupid gate to open.
@Cerberus So there's a tiny bit of commentary. In my mind I remember distinctly that when my sister and her friend were telling me about this 'running away' thing...
... well, I remember their faces and they were both laughing about it.
At the time this really made the whole thing so exciting, it really made me think this was going to be a lot of fun.
I mean it well could have been a lot of fun, but that's not the point.
 
@Mitch You would probably have walked in a random direction for a few minutes, then turned back.
 
The point is that I'm pretty sure that they were plotting a ruse.
 
4:55 PM
They were trying to make you run away?
 
Those two ... you-know-whats ... remember I'm three and didn't have the appropriately colored vocabulary to describe their social situation...
Those two were probably trying to fool me, that they in fact had no plans at all for themselves to do any kind of running away at all. They were probably thinking what kind of fool would even -consider- running away.
Oh I do now remember that I considered taking a suitcase with some clothes.
When I say 'consider' I mean the idea flitted across my mind vaguely and then disappeared immediately never to be thought again.
So when they thought what kind of fool would do such a thing, and then I showed up, they knew immediately what kind of fool.
@Cerberus 'make' is such a strong word.
I think they thought it would be a funny prank.
But now that you've put it out there... I'm wondering.
@Cerberus Well, we had strict instructions -never- to cross the road. And there's the fear of the dunce cap to keep us in line.
So I think that would have slowed me down a bit.
Also the not bringing food with me. That was just poor planning.
 
@Mitch Wasn't it?
 
Also being in pajamas.
 
@Mitch You can do without food for half an hour.
 
You can't go running around in daylight in just your pajamas. That would be wrong.
But that's another story for another day when I did in fact run around in broad daylight in just my pajamas. To be fair, I didn't know they were pajamas at the time.
@Cerberus If it were a prank, yes, what actually transpired would have been hilarious.
I don't think it really goes to the extent of a prank. If it was not meant seriously (that is, they were in fact not planning to run away and I just happened to miss some of the planning details) which is what I suspect it was, then yeah it is funny.
@Cerberus That's questionable.
But I have gone longer with nothing so i suppose I could train up.
I'm gonna have to ask my sister about this. She would have been 5 or 6 at the time.
Anyway, now that I'm older I have the faculties to do better planning.
Kids are so stupid.
Barely thinking past the next 5 seconds.
 
5:10 PM
Yeah.
10 second is better.
 
at least
 
5:26 PM
@Cerberus I wonder if that is part of the etymology of English eensie (referring to something tiny).
@Mitch Yeah, I did that sort of thing when I was around ten. I decided after a few hours that I really missed my pillow ...
 
5:52 PM
@Robusto Hmm Perhaps.
 
> We are now exposed daily to more information than we can process and this has substantial costs. We argue that the information space should be recognized as part of our environment and call for research into the effects and management of information overload. nature.com/articles/s41562-024-01833-8
 
I am thinking eenie meenie.
 
Hours of physical activity per month
 
@CowperKettle Yeah, we need better filtering.
 
Wow.
@CowperKettle Is this all still running?
 
 
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@Cerberus No, now it's mostly walking
 
@Robusto An unspoken hero of civilization
 
"The hero of civilization is silent"
"The development giants are silent"
"The developers have been silent" so the real problem is not enough comments in code
 
8:12 PM
@Lambie To me, at least, "The only thing we haven't seen are locusts" sounds grammatically incorrect; I would only consider the version with "is" acceptable.
That said, that's just my intuition, so I wouldn't post it as an answer.
@Laurel This x1000, as they say. Of course ELL does get some questions so incredibly trivial that citing a source is hardly necessary, and there are a few answerers (trained linguists with advanced degrees working in academia) who I'd trust even without specific sources being cited.
@Lambie It depends on the expert and the source. Some are, of course, substantially more informative and reliable than the intuitions of even educated native speakers, and such citations at least show that such intuitions are shared by more than one intelligent person.
Truly good reliable sources will also offer more justification for their points of view than can fit into a single answer.
By "more reliable" I don't just mean that their answers are more correct than those of any arbitrary individual; I also mean that they give good explanations that generalize well.
 
 
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@alphabet I care about what people actually say and then how it can be explained. If you look at the comments under the question (not just my answer), you will see that at least two honchos disagree and think are is fine, that includes all those examples of real speech found by Mari-Lou and someone else. And why everyone doesn't like the idea of a copular inversion beats me.
And one answer on ELU, says: Given a clause ‘X – be – Y’, then if be is specifying, we can normally switch to ‘Y – be – X’, retaining the structure ‘S – P – PC’. I read "are locusts" as be specifying. english.stackexchange.com/questions/509997/… But I'm happy with the Wikipedia copular inversion explanation: Fred is the plumber. The plumber is Fred. (The men are the plumbers. The plumbers are the men.
 
@Lambie I couldn't be bothered with copular inversion today. I'm too tired and I have a headache.
 
Yeah, I did too. Took two Tylenol and a nap. Feel better now.
@alphabet Well, I have dealt with three translation issues recently and do consider myself the expert in those cases. So...In one, there was a horrible translation and the OP wanted to know all about the sentence's grammar. The discussions went on and on and on about it. When translated accurately, the entire issue (which was not generizable by the way) just disappeared.
 
@Lambie These differing intuitions are exactly why it's so important to cite sources, which is why Araucaria's answer is superior to the others: it cites published examples.
Your answer also cites sources, but I'm more persuaded by just showing that people use this construction than by finding theoretical justifications for it.
Copular inversion is complicated. H&P would say that, when be is used in the specifying sense, it doesn't make sense to speak of copular inversion; they only apply that concept to the ascriptive be.
 
9:59 PM
Essentially: while you can almost always exchange the subject and predicative complement of a specifying be, this is a quite unique phenomenon, whereas the sort of inversion allowed by the ascriptive be is also allowed, with much the same restrictions, by a number of other verbs.
 
@Lambie @alphabet Justifying by a rule can be begging the question. Where does the rule come from? There is -no- justification of a rule except by examples. Sure, a rule -feels- right to ourselves (as long as it is the rule we follow).
Rules can be made but they can easily have exceptions, or rather cases. There is no rule about rules that says there are no exceptions.
That seems kind of harsh about rules. I think sometimes there are mistakes, instances that go against a rule.
But if enough people make the same mistake it's no longer a mistake.
And logical rules have a certain appeal of simplicity to them.
But that guy who said that this site is about correct English... he's definitely got the wrong idea.
That's what English Language Learners is for.
@Cerberus Oh as to that, no I was not angry at all. It just sounded like a fun thing to do. It was not like my mother made me do something abhorrent like eat all my peas for dinner before I could have dessert.
At that age, I remember how exciting and forbidden it was to slip through the hedge to go to our next-door neighbor's yard.
(it was never forbidden of course, it just felt that way)
 
10:15 PM
Not long ago, I saw a term people use to describe a sort of cognitive error, where things change, but so slowly that it seems like things were "always this way". That is, the "boil a frog" problem.
Now I can't remember the term.
 
10:38 PM
Wordle 1,005 4/6

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@Mitch Mitch, it was not about rules. It was about explaining the grammaticality of the copular inversion. Yes, of course, there are mistakes that are not dialectical, but that was not the issue here...by the way, I ran away at four in my pajamas in Rio to a couple down the hill. My parents found me there enjoying breakfast. I did not get into trouble.
Here's the street. Too bad there aren't more photos, I'd show you the house...google.com/maps/place/…
 
Daily Octordle #786
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There's also: gradient well-formedness en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well-formedness
 
11:24 PM
Le Mot (@WordleFR) #802 4/6

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https://wordle.louan.me
La palabra del día #804 4/6

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https://lapalabradeldia.com/
Latin Wordle 80 5/6

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https://game.latindictionary.io/
Ho indovinato questa parola italiana di 5 lettere in 2/6 tentativi.

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Riesci a indovinare questa parola?
https://wordlegame.org/it?challenge=cG9zdGE
More luck with Italian.
 

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