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1:49 AM
@Mitch You'll have to explain to me what those terms mean exactly. We are dealing with a usage that I would not normally use in speech, one that now seems more limited to writing, possibly even certain genres (and of course older texts). The construction is possible under certain circumstances. This seems an indisputable fact. I don't see what the intuitions of a handful of native speakers could do to change this possible under certain circumstances into impossible.
 
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Q: I'm seeing stars! (I can see who starred a message and so can you)

DoorknobSo I was making a chatbot in Ruby for SE chat, and I discovered that I could find out the starrer of a message. I'm pretty sure stars, like votes, are supposed to be anonymous. Although this knowledge would help for cases of star trolls like this. Here's the specific slice of code that do...

 
Weird.
Did you try it?
 
Nope.
 
Why is there this?
 
I’m not following.
 
@tchrist Hmm odd.
 
2:06 AM
@Robusto Oh, you’re right.
But no surprise. Star trolls like anything.
 
Yes.
 
You know, I have a thought, and I wish Reg or Cornbread were here.
 
Right, annoying.
 
Cut that out!
 
Hmm it wasn't me hehe.
Or perhaps it was.
 
2:10 AM
Wasn't me.
 
My thought is that our site would be better looking if we for **bold markup** instead of switching to the corresponding bold font, we switched to the corresponding small-caps version.
I don’t understand how I make “typos” like that. It’s phonological, not fumblefingering.
 
I don't know...bold has better visibility in a text wall.
 
It’s too heavy. It does not look good.
Small caps look better.
 
I understand your concern, but I have to vote no.
 
Now of course, they actually can have both.
But you must agree that the small caps used there are attractive.
 
2:14 AM
Sure.
I should like to have them as an option.
But the bold is easier to spot.
 
Apropos all that jazz, do you know what a Monday man is?
Or was?
 
No?
And what jazz?
 
All that Maundy Thursday jazz.
 
Oh, I didn't read the article.
 
> “[The story of] ‘The Monday Man’ refers, of course, to those sad and frightening men who steal women's underwear. When I was growing up no one had clothes dryers, and Monday men were a perennial problem for my poor mother.”
 
2:24 AM
12 hours ago, by Robusto
@RegDwigнt Mandatum novum do vobis ut diligatis invicem sicut dilexi vos
@tchrist Yes. But the font substitution you get on the web is unlikely to yield good results with those.
 
@Robusto Yes, although of course, the original was in Greek, which doesn’t help me or summon up imagery the way the Latin does.
@Robusto Oh.
 
@tchrist But the original Greek wouldn't necessarily produce the mandatum <=> maundy linkage. (I say, not knowing the Greek for that.)
 
@Robusto Yes, yes. The linkage is the Vulgate of course, and the Roman rite.
 
Heh, actually we've had this discussion before:
Mar 28 '13 at 1:06, by Robusto
@tchrist Mandatum novum do vobis ut diligatis invicem sicut dilexi vos.
 
’Tis the season.
 
2:27 AM
Probably March 28 2013 was Maundy Thursday.
And in fact it was.
Unsurprising.
 
> Typhon has attempted to cloak his horrid nature by naming himself Pas, the god of everything, and assuming some benignity; . . .
It’s funny how many people ask how come the father of monsters renamed himself peace, when in fact, he did not. He renamed himself all.
 
Pas de problem.
 
It’s because most English speakers pronounce Spanish paz without theta.
Well, that and they don’t know Greek declensions.
I just finished reading a 1990 talk Gene Wolfe gave at a con entitled “Secrets of the Greeks”. Really interesting.
 
I have an extra one of those: ϴ
 
His point is that while books are quick to say what we do know of the Greeks, it is hard to find a book that admits what our lacunae about them are.
 
2:35 AM
We are laconic about our lacunae?
 
Like what a regular fellow might have for breakfast or midday/main meal compared with what a wealthy person might.
 
And why no ae ligature, sir?
 
Now, that was one he tracked down, but some stuff he looked for he couldn’t find, and he couldn’t find that he couldn’t find, only that he didn’t find, which is a different matter.
 
I forget the keystroke and didn’t care to break typing.
 
2:36 AM
Good reading.
 
Ah, Penguin.
 
I think ae ligature is easy on the Mac.
 
It is.
 
Kitto is great reading.
 
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2:36 AM
Hi
 
Ah, there it is.
 
How to use it room?
 
option-a?
 
It is Alt-'
Option-' is æ
Opt-a is å
I simply forgot.
 
Ah, that's it. I used the shit out of it for my pre-Norman historical novels.
 
2:38 AM
Hi @xiaodongjie.
 
@tchrist How are you?
 
Sleepy.
 
@xiaodongjie How are things in the northern capital?
 
@Robusto 你姓什么?
 
北京市?
Oh, you're asking me my name?
Haha, I am not Chinese.
I just looked up your profile and it says you're from Beijing. Hence my question about the northern capital.
 
2:54 AM
@xiaodongjie: ??
@tchrist I highly recommend that book, btw, and even more his Form and Meaning in Greek Drama. It is an eye-opener.
 
@Robusto I ask you, because your charactor.
 
@xiaodongjie Ah. It is but a dream.
 
@Robusto Oh, I see. How to use this room?
 
Not my real name.
@xiaodongjie The way you are using it right now. Come in, converse, ask questions, answer questions, etc.
 
Yes. Thanks. OK.
 
2:57 AM
You're welcome.
 
@Robusto Thank you.
 
Bonus: He analyzes Hamlet in the context of Greek tragedy, which is highly illuminating.
 
3:16 AM
@xiaodongjie You misspelled character.
 
@WillHunting What about ?
 
@xiaodongjie I was just correcting the spelling, not charactor but character.
 
@WillHunting Oh, yes. thanks.
@WillHunting you are a great guy. I sent you 100 kisses.
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@xiaodongjie What?
 
@WillHunting what is what?
 
3:19 AM
Jasper would be happy with one.
 
@xiaodongjie Why would you send me kisses? LOL.
 
@WillHunting because just i feel i love you.
 
Oh dear, are you a troll?
 
@WillHunting I am very beautiful?
 
@xiaodongjie It is very strange that you are asking me these questions, lol.
@xiaodongjie Have you installed Ubuntu 14.04? It came out a few hours ago.
Haha, this is all very funny...
 
3:46 AM
@WillHunting I have installed Ubuntu12.04.
@WillHunting I think that you are very funny and lovely boy.
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@Cerberus wtf?
 
4:16 AM
@xiaodongjie Haha, you don't know what I look like, you should not say that
@xiaodongjie I just installed Ubuntu 14.04.
 
@WillHunting OK. Now i understood.
 
5:04 AM
@WillHunting Jasper (you ladies' man!), Why are you wearing black these days? Is it for Good Friday? ')
 
5:48 AM
hi @xiaodongjie
 
6:22 AM
@skullpatrol I have played this game exactly once, and:
I wonder whether @RegDwigнt can also beat this version of 2048 in one try.
And I have never seen the fucking series!!
I was surprised by how easy it is without any numbers.
 
6:39 AM
Morning?
 
7:10 AM
@medica Nope, just for fun.
@JohanLarsson This chat is dead
 
yes it is slow at times
 
I am now gonna try Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 instead of Ubuntu
 
 
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8:31 AM
posted on April 18, 2014 by sgdi

Fertility is Easter’s goal Not that “died for your sins” churchly troll “‘Cos Jesus died, honey “Here’s a chocolate bunny” No help for your immortal soul

 
@Cerberus yup, I actually did.
First try.
It's trivial if we stick to our usual strategy.
Needless to say, I have no idea who any of these people are except the 2048 guy who must be the recent Doctor I think.
Don't watch the series (and after playing this I am inclined even less to ever do so). But now that I think of it, the 2048 should have been a Dalek. (These I know because people keep making them out of LEGO all the time.)
Anyway. With my strat, the pictures can be anything, or indeed change midway through the game, and it wouldn't matter because I know exactly where the highest, the second-highest, etc. tile is at any given moment.
 
9:23 AM
 
 
1 hour later…
10:43 AM
@RegDwigнt yeah. looks like they've put them in chronological order (2 being earliest, 2048 being sort of latest, although there is a newer doctor (4096 perhaps))
 
Yeah, there's no 4096. Or 9192. Too bad, I have a couple more animals.
BTW, I can't win at my own game. Never mind 4096, I can't get to a 2048.
It was easier with Dr. Who!
 
I've only managed to get to the deer
I guess that 1024
 
Yup.
I was stuck at a deer and two sharks at one point, so technically that's a walrus.
But the sharks were swimming all over the field.
 
But most of the time I barely get to see a reindeer at all.
 
10:58 AM
toodle pip
 
I still have not deleted my account, yay!
 
Lost again.
This game is way too hard.
 
Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 causes pixellation on my desktop, so I went back to using Ubuntu 14.04.
I am going to do some thinking and then some sleeping...
 
11:15 AM
Yay! At last I won. 20256 points.
 
11:34 AM
What did you win?
 
A large flippered marine mammal.
 
And have you beaten Darwin's Dilemma or 3 in Three yet?
 
Nope, I've been meaning to do it in a dedicated sitting, but haven't had the time yet.
In fact I kept thinking about Darwin's Dilemma all the time while playing this Animal Edition.
 
Yeah, I imagine.
BTW, my sons both beat the games when they were in middle school. Just saying.
Wow, Jasper has a chat sweetheart. That's adorable.
 
He should go do some thinking about it.
Oh wait, that's what he's doing now.
@Robusto I actually think I'd have had less trouble with either in middle school.
 
11:40 AM
@RegDwigнt Haha, me too.
They both finished in faster times than me.
And they each finished Portal in about half my time.
And let's not even get started on the differences in twitch gaming. These kids grew up never knowing what it was like to be without a computer. But perhaps that's your story as well.
 
I watched some National Geographic infotainmentary last week, basically with all kinds of thinking tests and optical illusions and whatnot, that kind of stuff, and in one of the episodes they had older people compete against younger ones in a number of games or IQ challenges. In the end it was a tie (spoiler alert), but the point was that when you get older, you acquire a different kind of intelligence, at the cost of losing your old one. I forgot what the technical terms were.
 
Yeah. I am definitely smarter about some things now. But I'm not instantly brilliant like I used to be. For one thing, Google (or age) has ruined my memory. I still remember lots of shit, but am slower at recalling certain details.
 
So regardless of who was better at any given test, the point is that at any rate they approached it completely differently.
Like, the old people relied more on their experience (duh), while the younger had some very fresh ideas (if they had any ideas at all).
 
I used to crush everyone I'd see on Jeopardy!. Now I just win most of the time. Part of that is that the pop-culture references are now out of my wheelhouse.
 
Oh yeah
 
11:47 AM
I even tried out for that show once, and won my division (consisting of 200 competitors) going away. But they never called me to appear on the show. :(
 
Hm.
 
I thought maybe I was too good. They didn't want someone who would just blank everyone else. But that is literally what I did.
 
Aren't they using up contestants at a rate that by now they'd have to pick pretty much anyone as long as he's new?
I mean, the show's been running for what, three hundred years? Four?
 
Well, you'd wonder. I still keep my name in, but never get contacted.
 
It is an inside job.
 
11:49 AM
I even know people who've been on the show.
Why not me?
 
@Robusto Of course. Because by now everyone has, see above.
Well, life is a bitch, and then you don't get called back.
 
Well, at this point in my life I don't really need the money. But it would be nice to walk away with some easy cash.
And bragging rights.
 
So three weeks from now they do call you, and then the categories are like "Big Bang Theory Season 5" and shit.
Good luck.
 
I know, right?
I don't do well on modern pop-culture, and especially not Modern Shitty Music.
 
"This is the number of chords Usher and 50 Cent have used in all of their opus'aes combined".
 
11:52 AM
But it amazes me that people don't know, for example, that Robert Goddard discovered that the best rocket fuel he could make consisted of gasoline and [name an element in liquid form].
 
Um. Orange juice?
No wait, that's napalm.
 
That's a bingo.
No, it's oxygen, obviously.
I mean OBVIOUSLY.
 
Ah, right, Jean-Michel Jarre.
 
I hate questions about rivers and minor countries in Africa too.
 
And now there's even more countries in Africa.
 
11:54 AM
But if they ask real general-knowledge questions, I still crush.
@RegDwigнt Yeah. Who asked for South Sudan anyway?
 
South sudo-an, north sudo-an.
 
I mean, isn't that kind of redundant anyway?
 
I wonder how many countries there'll be in the Ukraine when they're done with it.
My educated guess is 4165.
 
Umm, still the same number. The overflow will be called "Russia".
 
I think 4165 is "Russia" in leetspeak.
 
11:56 AM
Could be.
Also I hate those "answers" for which the question turns out to be "Who is Toni Morrison?"
They have one of those every week, it seems. She's their go-to female author.
 
I have never once heard of that Toni thing.
 
Well, you get German Jeopardy.
 
I don't think we do.
 
I'm sure the cultural references are somehow different.
No?
 
The last time I saw Jeopardy on German television was approximately around the time you last saw Jeopardy on German television.
It didn't fly here.
 
12:00 PM
I don't think I ever saw Jeopardy on German television.
 
There you go.
 
I remember a lot of shows that featured accordion music, however. I . . . didn't really watch much TV there.
 
Harr.
There are still those. But you generally know which channels to avoid.
 
I did watch to see if I could pick up different accents.
 
It's not like they are everywhere. Or really much anywhere at all. Just those three and a half retarded channels.
 
12:02 PM
Yeah. That's what they had when I was there. Like three channels.
 
That'd be the exact same ones.
But there are 300+ new ones on top of that now.
 
A veritable cornucopia.
 
They even show, like, I dunno, Breaking Bad, in English, just three days after the US, with not a single commercial anywhere. And no accordion music!
 
I have access to 500+ channels now, and the number I actually watch can still be counted on the fingers of one hand.
 
Yup.
 
12:03 PM
@RegDwigнt Wait, no accordion music? Is that even legal?
 
The more channels I have, the less TV I watch overall.
 
It's axiomatic.
 
And ever since I have a recorder, I keep recording less and less.
I did much more when it was some complicated VHS shit, you know.
Now it's just a press of a button, but who gives a shit.
 
Yeah. My eyes are bigger than — well, than my eyes. I always fall behind my inventory of recordings, so that I just wind up deleting shit.
 
This.
 
12:06 PM
And the DVR nags me like a bitch. "Your DVR is 90% full! Delete the things you don't want to watch before you miss something important!" Yes, ma'am, I'll get right on that.
The last show I felt any urgency about making room for was Breaking Bad.
 
Mine is only 87% full now. I feel like an Avenger or something.
Normally it's 99%.
But yeah, that actually includes 36 BB episodes.
I keep them around just in case.
 
I have the series on Blu-Ray.
 
I don't have Blu-Ray. I am waiting for the vinyl Lazerdisc.
But it's HD TV, so wevs.
 
I think it's all gonna be streaming from here on out.
 
Yeah, and who's gonna watch that, then.
They keep adding 30 hours of video to YouTube every minute.
I'm not streaming that.
 
12:09 PM
True.
Now everyone has a box: Apple, Google, Amazon . . . where does it end?
 
That is so '80s.
 
These folks are way too good-humored, too.
Everyone smiling and shit and making 80's music and shit.
 
Move over, Huey Lewis.
 
@Robusto I don't have a box.
 
12:11 PM
Oh you said Lewis, not Laurie.
 
@Cerberus What was the original saying in question?
18 hours ago, by n11
Do you say "John can't come, he's at <some city> currently" or "in <some city> currently"?
 
It's a rookie mistake.
 
the response was:
18 hours ago, by Mitch
John is in Chicago currently. He's at the airport waiting to go to NYC. Once there he'll be in NYC.
 
n11
@Mitch and followed a long long discussion :)
 
@Mitch How is this anything but elementary?
 
12:13 PM
In AmE that is correct. For BrE I don't know. You may be talking about other circumstances other collocations, other varieties. But "I am going at Chicago" by itself is wrong wrong wrong in AmE.
 
Seven-elemen. Tary.
 
@Mitch I don't think that's true.
 
@Robusto Because anyone (namely Cerb) is disagreeing. And since he seems to be rational, it requires answering.
 
n11
but I like
16 hours ago, by Glen The Udderboat
My conclusion, thus far, is that 'at' combined with a city, nowadays, always refers to some institution or part of an itinerary, and that 'in' refers to everything else.
 
We say "in the hospital" instead of "in hospital", but I believe the other prepositions are the same.
 
12:15 PM
Count von und zu Count.
 
@n11 Yeah. "He was at Oxford" and "He was at M.I.T." both refer to institutions.
@RegDwigнt Isn't that von und bis? For counting, I mean.
 
@Robusto For the simple phrase "I'm going <prep> Chicago" in AmE you find 'at' to be acceptable?
 
n11
ah right institutions not places, I didn't notice
 
It's biss. For counts, that is.
 
Bite me.
 
12:17 PM
@n11 My istituion is a box. Does that count?
 
Who is that chick anyway. Doesn't look like that other chick.
 
She's some other chick.
 
What's its name. Swan something.
@Robusto Oh. But the guy is the same?
What's his name. Something with Parkinson.
 
Similar, if not the same.
 
Good thing we're not on Jeopardy now.
 
12:18 PM
I would fail the entire Twilight series of questions.
 
And we would be proud of you.
 
n11
last movie I saw: inception ~N years ago
 
Yeah it's a pity it sucked so much you don't want to see any movies anymore.
 
I dreamed I saw the movie Inception.
before I really saw it.
 
12:19 PM
Sums up everything I think quite accurately.
 
I thought that scene was very inaccurate.
You can't just pull mirrors out of walls.
 
n11
indeed, nice philosophical inception
 
There were lots of inaccurate scenes. That one just happens to be in the screenshot.
 
I was impressed with how the cameras weren't in the picture with the infinitely reflecting mirrors.
 
It's not called fridge logic for no reason.
 
12:22 PM
Just like in dreams! mindsplode
 
@Mitch were you also impressed with Jar-Jar Binks?
 
@RegDwigнt Exactly. That's why it's not called fridge logic.
@RegDwigнt ha ha.
no.
 
Well. You should. Cuz same thing.
Anyway. Visually it can be quite stunning, but all the really good stuff is actually in the trailer already.
 
Jar-Jar Binks was put in the movie. The camera was taken out of Inception.
 
n11
actually if you're heavy dreaming, would you have time to avoid falling backward from a chair?
 
12:25 PM
@n11 you're thinking too much. Wait...are you in a dream?
 
n11
hehe
 
@Mitch nonono, all sense and sensibility was taken out of Episode I. Same direction.
 
It would have been better if they had put the camera back in. And upped the dosage of metachlorions.
I can't wait to be disappointed by episode 7.
Rewatching 4, it's really not that impressive. I mean, how can Obi-wan talk to Luke in the X-wing. He's dead. Is Luke having some sort of stress hallucination? Has he eaten some Ewok moss? These things need explanation.
 
n11
!!define inception
 
@n11 inception The creation or beginning of something; the establishment.
 
n11
12:32 PM
isn't there a different meaning with this one ^
 
It's a manifesto of Christopher Nolan's that he is now going to try to start making movies.
 
n11
I've already seen "since inception, it ..." meaning just since the beginning
 
I only watched the trailer in Portuguese, and it's A origem. Hope that helps.
 
n11
yes, ok
 
@Mitch more like stop.
He had Memento and Insomnia. Then he sort of got bored.
 
12:53 PM
@RegDwigнt His next movie is called Ennui
 
1:16 PM
Hello kitty.
 
It's Kit. Good morning.
 
Hey, you asked.
 
!!nuke
 
You stole my hello kitty.
 
1:18 PM
feels pleased
 
n11
eh didn't know 'genre' was used, it's maybe formal translate.google.com/#en/fr/genre
 
@n11 In English, genre has a specific meaning, not a general one.
 
@tchrist I presume you mean マネキン and not 招き?
 
@Robusto I was wondering about that.
> genre 1b. spec A particular style or category of works of art; esp. a type of literary work characterized by a particular form, style, or purpose.
 
1:25 PM
Ah, no. It means "beckoning cat": 招き猫 (まねきねこ).
 
n11
@tchrist seen it there highlyscalable.wordpress.com/2012/03/01/… "All major genres of NoSQL provide soft schema capabilities in one way or another"
 
That's the problem with romanizations.
 
@n11 Odd.
 
n11
yes I think too, 'type', 'kind', 'member' would better fit
 
OED sense 1a does mean “Kind; sort; style.” but that is the original meaning and no longer the dominant one, which is sense 1b given above.
 
1:31 PM
does age-old make sense?
reads strangely in Sweden
 
@RegDwigнt Wheeeeee! Cute little animals!
 
@n11 Plus it is more apt to be pronounced [ˈʃɒnɹə] or [ˈdʒɑnɻʷə] in English than the native French [ʒɑ̃ʁ] save in (semi-?)pretentious speech.
@JohanLarsson Perfectly natural in English once you realize that it means ages-old.
 
The age-old proverb "Don't be a dick."
 
@KitFox thank you!
 
I'll pass it around.
 
n11
1:46 PM
@KitFox Did you get the T-rex too?
nah joking, I only got an elephant
 
I got to the alligator.
 
@tchrist Love it. Thank you.
 
You’re welcome.
 
hello
i am confused with the use of the word "ain't"
is it a part of old english?
 

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