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A: How to get rid of root in Integral, without using Euler's substitution

Dr. Sonnhard GraubnerI would substitute $$t=\sqrt{\frac{x+2}{x+1}}$$ then we get $$x=\frac{2-t^2}{t^2-1}$$ so $$dx=-2\,{\frac {t}{ \left( t-1 \right) ^{2} \left( t+1 \right) ^{2}}}dt$$ By the quotient rule we get $$dx=\frac{-2t(t^2-1)-(2-t^2)2t}{(t^2-1)^2}dt$$

 
How you did it? Because, my dx= $$-\frac{2*\sqrt{x+2}*\left ( x+1 \right )^{2}}{\sqrt{x+1}} dt$$
 
Is it clear now?
 
but how this will help me to continue? Nothing will cancel out, should I use now partial fractions?
 
Yes your integral is rational now, use partial fractions, should i do it for you?
 
I want to try it on my own. Would you be so kind and check it then?
 
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Yes try it and i will check it, good luck,Shelley!
 
First I got $$-\int\frac{4+2t^{2}}{\left ( t^{2}-3 \right )\left ( t^{2}-1 \right )} $$ and when I did partial fractions I got $$-\int \frac{5}{t^{2}-3}dt$$ and $$ \int \frac{3}{t^{2}-1}dt$$. Is it correct?
 
One moment plese.
I got $$\int\frac{-2(t^2+2)}{(t^2+3)(t^2+1)}dt$$
 
But this is the same as mine, or?
 
No, i have a plus sign instead of your minus sign in the denominator
 
$$-2(t^{2}+2)=-2t^{2}-4=-(2t^{2}+4)$$ and I put - in front of the integral
 
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Yes this is correct, your denominator is wrong ,it must be $$(t^2+3)(t^2+1)$$
 
Okay, I understand the mistake now, thanks a lot
 
I hope your problem is solved now, should i give you the result?
 
yes, it would be useful
 
$$\int \frac{-2(t^2+2)}{(t^2+3)(t^2+1)}dt=-\arctan \left( t \right) -1/3\,\sqrt {3}\arctan \left( 1/3\,t\sqrt {3 } \right) +C$$
 
It really helps me, thanks a lot
 
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I wish you a nice evening without all these integrals!
 
:D thanks, you too..
 

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