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6:27 AM
Hi @TheSimpliFire
 
hello @OmegaKrypton
 
@MrPie wanna try this?]
@TheSimpliFire
 
@OmegaKrypton okey
 
Overthinking Monkey Enjoying Games And/ Awesome Knowledge Regarding Your Puzzles Today On Net
 
6:30 AM
progress^
 
@OmegaKrypton there are two "z" on the RHS and not LHS
That's why it's tricky
 
BECAUSE NOBODY USES Z IN AUSTRALIA
 
Also 'v' on LHS but not on right
@MrPie So you say pussles :P
 
and lets get rid of "puzzles"
 
6:31 AM
oops, that's a bit too close to something else ;)
 
I have: Overthinking Maddening Experimentalist Getting Awesome ~ Knowledge Regarding Y P T O N ..... ?
 
lol
Perplexing?
Paradox?
 
@OmegaKrypton maybe the second one
Nup, no spare D
First we have pussles
And now we have the D
 
maddened?
 
@OmegaKrypton that solves that problem
Now we need a spare O ....
I was thinking replacing "getting" with "good" or "godly" but then "awesome" doesn't work
 
6:34 AM
Overthinking Maddened Experimentalist Getting Awesome ~ Knowledge Regarding Y Paradoxes T O N ..... ?
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@OmegaKrypton there is an extra O on the RHS
Oh, @TheSimpliFire! I have exciting news!
 
what is it :)
 
@OmegaKrypton basically, @TheSimpliFire made a conjecture that $n^2=p+qr$ for all natural numbers $n>2$ where $p,q,r$ were primes and $q,r<n$.
 
6:38 AM
Let $n=2a$ for some $a\in\mathbf{N}_{>1}$ so that $4a^2=p+qr$. If $p=2$, then either $q$ or $r$ must equal $2$. Suppose it is $q$, then $2a^2=1+r\Leftrightarrow r=2a^2-1=2a^2-2+1=2(a+1)(a-1)+1$. Clearly, $(a+1)(a-1)$ is composite for $a>2$.
I noticed that the equation in particular, $r=2a^2-1$, obeys a negative pell equation
namely $$x^2-2y^2=-1.$$
 
what is that lol
 
@OmegaKrypton it is basically an equation with $x$ and $y$ where there are infinitely many solutions, and they are given by a recurrence relation
Do you know what that is?
 
What grants $r=x^2$?
 
@TheSimpliFire well, of course $r\neq x^2$ since $r$ is prime
 
... nvm
 
6:40 AM
So that means $a\neq y$
 
just tell him the news
lol
 
@MrPie Exactly, so $x^2-2y^2$ cannot exist in terms of $r$
 
@OmegaKrypton I feel bad... ah well
@TheSimpliFire I wrote it in the paper
 
What you're doing is comparing $r-2a^2=-1$ to $x^2-2y^2=-1$ which isn't possible as $r$ can't be a square number
unless I'm mistaken
 
@TheSimpliFire but that's the point.
We can see what values $r$ cannot be
Fo example, $2*5^2-1=7^2$
therefore $r\neq 7$..... wait.... hold up
 
6:43 AM
Actually, I'll start reading it after my exam as it's in an hour's time :P
 
@TheSimpliFire I got confused with $r$ and $a$
And it stuffed me up - badly
 
garyau @TheSimpliFire
:)
 
@OmegaKrypton DONE! :D
I am sure you can understand this
 
Basically, regarding that conjecture
If $n^2=p+qr$ and $n$ is even, then this means at least one of $p,q,r$ is even
Of course, that means at least one of them is $2$
If $p=2$, then one of $q$ or $r$ equals $2$. Suppose it is $q$.
 
6:56 AM
so p,q,and r are primes?
 
yeah.
I can prove that if $n=2a$ for some natural number $a>1$ (greater than $1$ because $n>2$), then there are certain values that $a$ can never equal if $p=q=2$.
 
what if odd+odd = even>
?
 
@OmegaKrypton that's the second case where $p\neq 2$ and $q,r\neq 2$
 
Oh yeah, I didn't explain myself clearly
 
7:05 AM
@OmegaKrypton thanks :)
 
@TheSimpliFire I think I also proved that if $q=2$ then $r\equiv 1\pmod 3$
Nope, I didn't
there is a counter-example: $5^2=19+2\times 3$
Notice in that example, $q+r=n$.... hmmm....
Oh wait, $q,r>3$
Ah that make sense. I think this is true iff $q,r>3$
No actually. I let $r\ge q>3$ and got that $r\equiv 2\pmod 3$.
 
 
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1:20 PM
Overthinking Maddened Experimentalist Getting Awesome ~ Knowledge Regarding Y Paradoxes T O N ..... ?
any ideas? @MrPie @TheSimpliFire
senpais pls help...
 
 
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3:14 PM
@TheSimpliFire are u there?
 
im bored
working on cryptics lol
wanna post a q soon
how bout you?
 
heh
@OmegaKrypton just finished my physics exam
it was alright
 
anymore coming?
 
In two weeks (3 more)
Until 7th June
 
3:17 PM
garyau!
mine starts at beginning of june
 
:) It feels like I've had exams nonstop
 
sad...
keep optimistic lel :)
 
3:53 PM
@OmegaKrypton What exams do you have?
 
a lot...
 
like, what subjects?
 
chinese english math
liberal studies
science
history
chinese history
geography
 
Indeed that's a lot!
 
yep...
 
4:05 PM
Over the past two weeks I had English, French, maths, physics chemistry and biology
 

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