@ngn re golfing being dead is that in reference to the rise of hyper-specialized codegolf languages? That's pretty much how it stopped being fun for me.

@JohnE i mean, here on stackexchange, we used to have a large community of smart kids golfing in various languages, but since last year's drama (long story..) most of them left

@JohnE specialized golfing languages shouldn't discourage anyone. technically, competition in golfing is per-language, and most people stick to their familiar favourites anyway. for instance, we see a lot of python answers, despite the fact that python is several times more verbose than "line noise" languages.

@ngn do any particular purposes interest you? You've mentioned cryptography a few times

@chrispsn yeah, crypto is an unexplored area that could benefit a lot from code simplicity

another could be graphics, games, a bit like what JohnE did with oK

i have a hammer and i'm looking for nails :)

oof, I missed that stackexchange drama

@ngn hey @ngn, just wanted to point out that ngn/k has >1 user. don't feel discouraged by some folk moving on to k9, there is people out there (me included) that care about free software and would be sad to see an open-source K implementation dying.

@Traws that sounds encouraging. thanks.