What is the complete list of
User guest271314 closed and deleted questions and answers?
The Politics SE users and/or moderators who voted to close or delete the questions or answers?
The reasons cited for vote to close or delete the questions or answers?
@yannis Yes, the question asks for the complete list of closed and deleted questions and answers, including older questions and and answers not listed in the profile that moderators have access to.
@yannis Why are you requesting "why" for the support request? What difference does a "why" make as to a moderator answering the question by providing all of the requested data in a single answer? "user contributions licensed under cc by-sa 3.0 with attribution required."Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 United States (CC BY-SA 3.0 US)
@guest271314 The license you granted stack exchange pertains to the terms under which they are allowed to display your content. Moderators being conditionally willing to provide links to deleted answers is really just a favor and not really something required by the license. I suspect they're asking because they're not convinced you're going to use this data for responsible conduct.
@Magisch "I suspect they're asking because they're not convinced you're going to use this data for responsible conduct." Such as? Can you substantiate that suspicion? Based on what evidence? The request is merely for the full record. Given that users publicly made their votes there should not be any issue with posting a complete list of those publicly made votes. If Politics SE did not delete deleted or closed question the request would not be necessary. Could simply review the data at own profile. For example, one of this users questions and the accepted answer were deleted.
@guest271314 Like haranguing users that voted to delete, or try & call them out. User conduct is focused on content on Stack exchange, calling out specific users personally is pretty much off limits. Calling out behavior and actions, like answers being deleted, is fine and often done on meta or via private contact to the mods as part of the community moderation process (the process generally includes community review of community actions, and as a part of the community you have the opportunity to start that process), but people often want this information to somehow contact the voting users
which is not really how challenging moderation decisions is done usually.
@Magisch "calling out" is not possible. The users already publicly made the vote. They called themselves out. The question simply asks to post the complete list of those public activities.
@guest271314 eh. Yes and no. Yes as in the votes are fair game for discussion, no as in you don't really need to know who voted to have that discussion. There's a reason the software limits who can see who delete votes and who didn't, and more reason why the software won't tell people who flagged their posts.
@Magisch The question is in response to this comment by a moderator "If you wish to discuss a pattern of actions against your posts, then a single meta question would do."politics.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/3761/…. Not sure why the request is problematic. When the question is placed on hold or closed, or deleted answer the votes are publicly viewable. There is no malicious intent associated with the request. Ironically, by not answering the question suspicion is aroused for not answering the question.
@guest271314 but delete voters are not public, they're very restricted in who can view them. Namely 10+ users and the post owner only. Even the fact that no convenient listing is available for the post owner themselves is deliberate. You're not supposed to go after the users voting on your posts under normal circumstances. In any case, a mod may grant your request possibly, but I wanted to explain why they might ask for a reason. This is just informed speculation based on what I know about SE sites.
@Magisch Delete votes are public. Vote to close votes are also public. Can post screenshots of closed question and deleted answers with users names attached to prove that fact.
@guest271314 they're not. Even with the direct link to one of the recent deleted answers here (politics.stackexchange.com/questions/37875/…) neither me nor any other sub 10k user is allowed to see who voted to delete. Seeing who voted to delete is a high bar of privilege and that information is restricted from the vast majority of the site's users.
Do you want to argue that users >= 10.000 reputation + (0 or 1 [post owner]) is not a minority of users? I click that link, and I can't see who voted on that.
@Magisch Because you cannot "see" the delete votes does not mean that the delete votes are not publicly available. Do not want to "argue" about anything. The question asks for a complete list of this users' questions and answers that have been deleted or closed and the reasons provided and the users who cast those votes. Why the attempt at a veil of secrecy? The users cast their vote in public.
To start the discussion about why the posts were deleted it is enough to know they were user deleted (not mod, thus able to be undeleted by users too) and not flag deleted
no I dont
Stack exchange has this thing where everyone can debate and explain things on meta
a mod could come in and say "actually here is that info" but you asked why the mod wanted a reason and I thought I'd comment
@Magisch If the reason for deletion of the answer is not given then that data cannot be posted at the answer to this question. That is simple. If the data is available, post the data. That too, is very simple.
there isn't a field where you can type in one. You'd have to go ask every user which is impossible since there's no private message function and users can choose to not participate in meta
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