Room for Isaac and terdon

10:13 PM

Why do you address me in unix.stackexchange.com/questions/492725/…

I demand that you remove my name there. Or remove the comment.

@terdon

I never could have any hope in any interaction of you with me, why are you so set against me? Never mind, you will probably say that I am incorrect and that you have been very level and nice. Not true.

terdon

@Isaac Because you were rude and unpleasant and yet had the gall to flag the other user's comments without considering your own. You have been pestering everyone on that thread with comments which have usually been less than friendly so when I saw you flagging the comments of people who were only responding to your behavior, I felt you were crossing a line.

Now that I know you've seen it, I'm happy to remove it, but next time I strongly suggest you don't "demand" but instead "ask".

Isaac

See, as said!

terdon

@Isaac How am I set against you? I don't know if it's a language issue, your English seems pretty good, but your tone in all of these exchanges with various users has been very aggressive and has resulted in multiple flags raised against your comments.

I left that comment addressing both of you because both of you were over the line. I am not going to just delete the ones you don't like and allow yours!

So, please be more careful in your interactions with other users in the future.

:48384307 As I said, I addressed both of you in my comment and Homer had nothing to do with it, it was on another post.

Since you were both to blame, I addressed both of you. I don't know how you read a comment addressed to both of you as blaming only you.

Isaac

10:32 PM

I erased that comment. I am re-writing it.

So, it is me who should have the blame, isn't it?

Homer was aggressive to me, I didn't answer in kind, now pizdelect raises **two** aggressive comments in a row, I answered to the second, yes, enough is enough.

But you choose to name me **first** Why? Did I start the problem, read the (now erased) comments. No I didn't, did I get pissed off, yes I did.

Think whatever you want, but I repeat: I demand that you remove that comment, If you don't like the demand, I'll be **very** happy to escalate anywhere. Your decision.

@terdon

terdon

@Isaac Good grief, I only mentioned you because he would get a notification by default because it was his post. I wanted you to get it too, so I pinged you explicitly. If it had been your post, I would have done it the other way around. That's just how the system works. And, again, we are not talking about Homer.

Isaac

What ("multiple flags raised against your comments") means? I am the one who have raised SEVERAL flags (all helpful, by the way). I am the insulted party ....

terdon

We could, if you like, but I don't recommend it since you kept on badgering him and refused to stop even when he asked you to, going as far as saying "I will do what I like". You need to understand how comments work here: they are not for having discussions and if a user asks you to stop, you stop. Just downvote and move on.

@Isaac I know you feel that way. Multiple means more than one different user has flagged more than one comment of yours as rude/aggressive or unwelcoming.

Isaac

kept on ?????????

terdon

I don't go around looking for things, I respond to flags.

@Isaac Well, yes. He asked you to stop commenting (every time you leave a comment on his answer, he gets a notification ping) and yet you came and left three more comments (addressed to me). Next time, just take it to chat, that's all.

Isaac

10:41 PM

kept on badgering him ??? Who Homer? So he owns this site, right? He has the right to decide where and when people could post, Fine, Please escalate this.

terdon

@Isaac Please listen to what I am saying. Comments are not for discussion. They should not be used that way. After discussing with you earlier today, I think you had a very good point, and may even be right. But that's irrelevant: if you have something to add, do it in an answer not by starting a discussion in the comments.

And, on top of that, your comments were not very pleasant in tone. I am not going to discuss another user with you (just like I wouldn't discuss you with another user), but if you feel they were rude, then you flag. Don't engage.

You left a total of 13 comments on this Q&A and 14 on this one. So yes, I can understand why someone would get tired of that. Comments are explicitly designed to ask for clarification and/or suggest improvements.

You wanted to get into a long (and, admittedly interesting) discussion like the one we had today about the details of the specs. I get that, and could even enjoy it, but it doesn't belong in the comments.

See unix.stackexchange.com/help/privileges/comment

Isaac

So, what you say is: when someone has a diverging view that may (even remotely, possibly raise some eyebrows) should not comment on the mistake !! good grief (as you say).

And ALLLL comments were strictly to clarify and/or suggest improvements.

terdon

@Isaac Not at all! I am saying that if you have a different view, you should put it in your own answer and not in the comments.

Isaac

Sadly, my communication skills are not so good (not my language, that is another issue).

terdon

@Isaac Si prefieres hablar en castellano, a mi no me cuesta

No lo he propuesto hasta ahora porque tu Ingles me parece muy bueno, pero si prefieres continuar asi, perfecto.

Isaac

10:53 PM

No es problema de idioma as de capacidad de expresar (correctamenmte) lo que quiero decir. No se porque no me funciona, si supiera lo arreglaria.

terdon

@Isaac Uf si, entiendo y se como puede ser difícil esto.

Y se hace aun peor si la comunicación es por texto solo, sin poder escuchar tono de voz etc.

Isaac

Lo siento, me tengo que ir, hablamos en otro momento,

terdon

@Isaac Vale. Pero en serio, yo no tengo nada contra ti y si sientes lo contrario, me encantaria si pudiéramos solucionarlo.

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Room for Isaac and terdon