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12:23 PM
@Mithrandir24601 hi. Sorry, quick question. Do you know if editing a question that is currently on the vote-to-close queue still immediately bumps it out of the queue?
it looks like this was the case, as per meta.stackexchange.com/questions/212862/…, but I can't tell if it still works like that
and it kind of looks like that having a look at how the voting proceeded on a number of questions that were flagged to be closed
 
 
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1:49 PM
@glS Huh, I don't actually know, sorry
 
 
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3:37 PM
@Mithrandir24601 I'm asking because I noticed a slightly worrying trend of people making trivial edits to some questions, thus removing said questions from the review queue regardless of what other people voted for
hopefully it is not done on purpose
 
@glS Ah, yeah: "Don’t make minor edits if the question would be closed even with these changes, as it will remove the question from review."
 
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I really don't want to stir up drama though, so hopefully, this is just people not knowing that these edits effectively sidestep the whole review process (which in fairness, I see as a flaw in the system itself)
 
@glS So, this has happened a few times within the past couple of weeks... but in only one of these cases did it have more close votes than reopen votes anyway (and that one case has since been closed)
 
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@Mithrandir24601 do you have mod tools to monitor this sort of thing? I just had a quick look at the "edit" reviews in the close votes history
 
Ah, that example is of course just outside the couple of weeks... I'm pretty sure that the editing doesn't remove the close votes themselves, just kicks it out of the review queue, so I think it can go back into the queue
 
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3:44 PM
@Mithrandir24601 but that requires someone to vote to close directly from the question right? it bumps it out of the review queue as far as I can tell, so unless it's a fairly recent question it's quite a bit less likely for people to see the question and vote to close it
especially with our low volume
 
@glS I have a pretty decent access to stats useful for this here, yeah
@glS Yep
It's kinda complicated, because if a question has e.g. 2 close votes and 2 open votes, then if the 5th reviewer comes along and edits it, then that kicks it out of the queue, but they could have also just left an open vote which would've done the same thing
 
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@Mithrandir24601 I always get confused about how that works. So a question gets out of the queue the moment there are 3 votes to not close it, regardless of the number of close votes?
 
@glS Unless things have changed since I last looked, then yep
I've just tried looking but haven't found anything under the help topics yet
 
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4:02 PM
that would make the effect of this sort of thing pretty minimal indeed. It only matters if there is a single vote to close then
 

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