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Gao

04:30

@SPArcheon-onstrike is there anything stopping them from adding region locking to Ultra HD 4k as well if it doesn't already exist? 4k is locked to old intel cpu generation, i don't want that if possible.

@SPArcheon-onstrike maybe the overview page is misleading, but if you click a season, it should be accurate

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SPArcheon - on strike

16:15

@Gao The Ultra HD Blu-ray official specifications as defined by the BDALO FORBIDS the use of any regional locking technologies on a disk bearing the Ultra HD logo.

There are even recorded instance of the Associaton warning companies that "in good faith mistake where cretin enough to misunderstood the specification"

scenarist.com/2023/09/14/… for example

> The Blu-ray Disc Association has notified its members that consumer complaints have been received regarding incidents of Ultra HD Blu-ray titles containing region locks that prevent playback of the title. The Ultra HD Blu-ray specification eliminates the use of region codes to block or stop playback of an Ultra HD Blu-ray title.

> The Ultra HD Blu-ray format shares many of the same parameters, functions, and capabilities with the Blu-ray Disc format. [cut] However it is prohibited by the Ultra HD Blu-ray Specification that navigation commands and/or BD-J application programming stop playback of an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc, such as the main feature, by checking PSR20. To be spec compliant, an Ultra HD Blu-ray title must not use the region code of the player to prevent playback of the title.

If you are interested in a list of these companies ~~knowingly scamming people with illegal products~~ making totally good faith mistake multiple times here is one.

forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=334606

Gao

@SPArcheon-onstrike don't see anything resembling a spec on a first glance

and isn't the blu-ray spec "owned" by sony? i imagine uhk 4k is also owned by sony

so how did they add that clause into their format if not pressured by others?

SPArcheon - on strike

@Gao that is just the site of the association, you have to request access for the actual spec. Depending on your purpose you have to pay for commercial use or request a study one for research purpose.

Blu-ray Disc Association

The Blu-ray Disc Association (BDA) is the industry consortium that develops and licenses Blu-ray technology and is responsible for establishing format standards and promoting business opportunities for Blu-ray Disc. The BDA is divided into three levels of membership: the board of directors, contributors, and general members. The "Blu-ray Disc founder group" was started on 20 May 2002 by nine electronic companies: Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, Samsung Electronics and Sony. In order to enable more companies to participate, it announced in May 2004 that it would...

back to what I was saying before...

GKIDS is one of those "we didn't know, it was in good faith" piece of trash. Didn't retire or refund this either afaik.

Notice how it is a region A locked disk that is then illegally using the Ultra HD Blu-ray logo.

@Gao Idiocy. Maybe years ago it was economically convenient for a Electronics company to produce region locked players under the bribery of the Disk publishers companies. But Region Free players exists and in some more civil countries (hello, @Memor-X) region free players are actually the standard, not the exception.

Do you think Sony likes that thanks to some anachronistic legalized scam customer prefer buying a Region Free player instead of their products? No they don't. The second some other company entered the market and offered an alternative, a blue pill... the bribery was no longer profitable.

The only ones left eating the cake of Region Locked scams are the publisher, ESPECIALLY anime ones. They have much to lose to a free market. Japan publisher wouldn't be able to keep their borderline criminal prices anymore for example - everyone would just reverse import from America.

But the ones making the players... they have been left hungry at that table for long. So it is only natural that they are attempting to change the rules.

Why would Sony want to lose money to region free competitor only so that Sentai Filmworks can still get bribed by Japanese publisher to region lock their disks??

Gao

17:18

@SPArcheon-onstrike does the region a lock apply to both the standard blu-ray and UHD 4K though? seems the package includes both, which is weird

just bought my first blu-ray disc ever, so i'll be learning about these things soon

SPArcheon - on strike

@Gao see the page I linked before or this one

blu-ray.com/movies/Weathering-with-You-4K-Blu-ray/304482

the UHD 4K is region locked to. And it violates the logo license.

Gao

hmm

> Region lock only applies to NA release. UK release is not region locked and presumably also the FR/AU releases that use the same authoring materials.

lol wut?

but does it matter? can't it be removed by software?

I also don't know why blu-ray.com doesn't show the SKU number. That's supposedly the only thing that can uniquely identify a specific BD release.

and these things should be integrated into an anime listing site already. ANN's releases info page is so outdated and out of sync with its info on the anime page

had to also search on sites like movie-censorship.com and dvdcompare.net and try piece together the differences using a bit of guesswork to know which version I should buy.

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SPArcheon - on strike

18:47

And the prize for weirdest collab of the century goes to...

TEARS OF THEMIS X TELETUBBIES