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Sakamoto

04:43

Q: Why Rin Okumura is so special as "son of satan", if there are other sons of satans on the side of humans like Mephisto and Amaimon?

In Ao no Exorcist season 1, they say they didnt kill Rin Okumura in spite of being a son of Satan, because they wanted to raise him to defeat Satan. But Satan has other sons on the side of humans like Mephisto and Amaimon. Then, why do humans need Rin to defeat Satan?

blue-exorcist

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Gao

12:40

@Memor-X You have played both Valkyria Chronicles and Valkyria Chronicles 4, right?

Memor-X

@Gao only the first one. but i have all the games in one form or another, including a translation patch for Valkyria Chronicles 3 and Valkyria Revolution

does remind me i should pick up the series again

Gao

Even Valkyria Revolution? Isn't that game, like, very bad?

Yea I just finished VC1 and VC4 this month, they're pretty good

Since you haven't finished VC4, I'd just say I think I noticed SEGA reusing generic character models from VC1 for VC4 for some not so important people, which initially confused me.

Memor-X

@Gao bit wary now-a-days of people collectively saying if a game is bad or not. alot of people have said Trails of Cold Steel 3 is the worst but so far (up to starting the Field Exercise of Chapter 3) i'm finding it better than Cold Steel 1 in various places

@Gao as in like with NPCs or with non story-required squad members?

Gao

@Memor-X with NPCs, but one of them has a page in the personnel file.

Memor-X

lol, yeh that seems weird

like reusing generic models for NPCs isn't out of the ordinary but having them a profile page like that is

Gao

12:49

yea, i don't think it could have been the same person, they lived in places far away

Memor-X

maybe it's similar to Biggs and Wedge from Final Fantasy

Gao

what about Biggs and Wedge? and you mean the original Final Fantasy 7 not the remake?

Memor-X

VI they were just the generic Solider sprites and in VIII they had the same models as the normal Blue and Red Galbadia soliders

Gao

lol now i remember that from ff8

never knew they're recurring running gags of the series

was thinking of ff7 remake biggs and wedge

Memor-X

one of the times they were less of a gag

similar to FFXIV

i get the feeling that when Square puts in effort to make their character appearance more unique, they are less of a gag

Gao

12:56

hmm, so you mean those 2 reused models in VC4 could be a SEGA gag?

it can make sense in a way

Memor-X

possibly

Gao

@Memor-X my experience is that a game has to at least have mixed reviews for it to be potentially good. otherwise it's like a lottery where the chance of it being a hidden pearl is close to zero.

Memor-X

i actually plan to replay the first game because i first played it on PS3 before and never got the Edy or Silvaria DLC. the Remaster comes with both

could keep an eye open to see if there's anything like named NPCs sharing names like that

Gao

you played the japanese release version or international (usa) release?

Memor-X

@Gao would be the USA release

Gao

13:00

so the opening is an orchestral song like in the remastered version right?

i learned they changed the opening movie from a vocal song to that of an instrumental one of a different song

Memor-X

no idea. it's been near a decade, maybe more, since i played it. can't remember the OP for the life of me

Gao

i think the japanese opening is much better

Memor-X

Vocals for OPs are generally better than them without vocals

Gao

i think i watched a video comparing VC1 in PS3, PS4 and Switch, and I honestly find it interesting to see supposedly the same game having subtle differences

@Memor-X no, the orchestral in english release is also very good, but the accompanying cutscene is a bit haphazard, that's the main problem. the other problem is i find it suits the ending better (both songs were used for both the opening and ending, and i think having one each is the best)

i can see why it might have been substituted for another song (it was a japanese vocal and very j-pop style, so license issues and non-western taste)

@Memor-X the dlcs in vc1 haven't much value added imo, unlike the dlcs in vc4, or are you an Edy fan lol, thought most westerners like marina and hate edy

anyway, if you play VC4, watch for characters who look like these two:

Memor-X

13:16

@Gao honestly my favourite was Silvaria and i have no idea what Edy's would add to the overall plot

@Gao will do. when i go to play through the series i'll see if they turn up again and again

Gao

@Memor-X edy? plain "fan service" lol. she's like more important in the anime than in the game

wish i haven't already seen the anime

Memor-X

when i'll play through the series i have no idea. currently addicted to doing Kiseki at the moment and NISA did not help by announcing that we'll be getting Trails through Daybreak this year and from there we're just 2 games off from being caught up with japan. Kuro no Kiseki II and Kai no Kiseki

Gao

i should make an effort to refrain from watching an anime based on a game i'd likely play one day before i'd actually finished that game

Memor-X

@Gao when they try and adapt the game's plot it tends to not be good

Tales of Vesperia i hear had a good anime because it was set before the game

Gao

@Memor-X may be for most games, but at least for ff7 crisis core, i think the anime is on par or even a little better than the game's storytelling

Memor-X

13:23

@Gao i think the anime of Crisis Core came out before the game

Gao

it kinda made more sense than the game lol and in less time

Memor-X

like i seem to recall seeing ads for the anime on the Advent Children DVD before i got Crisis Core and i recall getting it close to release

Gao

but only made sense after i played the game

Memor-X

no need to make sense of Zack Breakdancing to avoid bullets lol

twitter.com/MKH13Omasters/status/1608442924592947207

Gao

pretty smooth animation

yea it's different than in the game, i think we got different perspective, maybe one's cloud's and another zack's

Memor-X

13:28

the game was ok for me, just didn't like that Materia Fusion is only available in the Shinra Building and going to Niblehiem is a point of no return for that

at least from what i have seen they fixed it in the remaster by making it a menu option

so can get to the final boss and try and make the most powerful Materia, instead of having get stuck with whatever it good enough to beat Sephiroth

Gao

final boss is so easy by the time i finished all missions that number 10x more than aerith's wishes

think steam version really fixed a lot of annoyances with crisis core since its psp inception

Memor-X

@Gao yep, Materia Fusion, also the fact the final boss can't be hit with a normal attack which is what made it hard for me in my first playthrough

Gao

i kinda regret investing 60+ hours into completing crisis core. i wish we could play as zack in the upcoming ff7 remake part2 or part3

his squats has more oomph than cloud's

Memor-X

@Gao he apparently is going to be playable in Part 2

the way they've been showing him off in trailers seems to suggest it's not going to be like Yuffie where he gets added as DLC

Gao

@Memor-X oh, confirmed? noice. zack - genesis = greatness

cissnei is negligible lol

Memor-X

13:41

@Gao more or less. scenes showing him with comatose Cloud in Midgar, talking to Biggs, Marlene and a comatose Aerith who is dressed in that white dress she had in Crisis Core, not the pink outfit she's generally seen in duruing VII's plot

and we might get Genesis. previous game showed off Weiss and Nero. though i suspect like with Weiss if Genesis appears he's a super boss you find

though if that pans out not sure if it'll actually be him, or a G-Type Solider taking his form (maybe you find the Banora Underground and there's a left over who's taken his form and think he is Genesis)

have you played Remake yet @Gao?

Gao

is weiss as talkative as genesis though? i dont wanna hear that cringe poet-wanna-be anymore: youtube.com/watch?v=-FDt70EluIw&t=310s

@Memor-X played up to Don Corneo's arc

Memor-X

@Gao lol, no, Weiss wasn't obsessed with LOVELESS

@Gao still playing or giving it a rest?

Gao

@Memor-X think i will give it a rest. i'll play nier automata and other games first before coming back to this, hopefully completing the whole of remake in one run. not fond of don corneo's arc, it's boring as

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