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12:00 AM

More generally, I imagine that's an unwritten policy for all of Code Golf, since otherwise you could just make a website to solve any problem.

Eric

@LoganM It would have to be a working one, though. I just put it as a comment since I don't know of one off the top of my head. I've used one before.

Logan M

@Eric That's the point. You also have to manage all the valid forms for each word. Being large and somewhat structured but not totally so, it's almost indefinitely compressible.

I also thought about asking to write a program to compute Goodstein sequences (with a note saying not to worry about arbitrary precision integer issues) but naturally the results would be totally untestable. I'm not sure how they'd feel about asking to write a program which will take longer than the length of the universe to run but is theoretically correct.

Krazer

lol at this proposal:

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Not Q/A just fun!

Proposed Q&A site for me and my friends!

Closed before being launched.

Eric

@Krazer Yeah, I remember that one. He also started this one for "me and my friends and dad".

Logan M

@Eric gerrit's answer to the question there gives me some ideas.

(admittedly ones I've thought about before but still...)

Eric

12:08 AM

@LoganM ... uh-oh.

lol

Krazer

xD!!

Logan M

Actually better than that we should just propose ridiculously narrowly scoped Area51 sites like KLU which are nonetheless not duplicates of any existing sites.

Is there any existing SE site which covers traffic safety?

Krazer

@LoganM nope

Logan M

That's good, but it's not that localized. I'll have to think of a better one.

Krazer

12:24 AM

broom sports?

Logan M

@Krazer Sports already exists or else that would be a good one.

Eric

@LoganM Calligraphy would be good, but I think it was already rejected.

Krazer

Model Building?

Logan M

@Krazer I thought of that one, but model building in and of itself isn't that localized. They got a lego site to work. If we restricted it appropriately it might work, but that makes it more obvious that you're trolling.

Krazer

Gun-pla?

Logan M

12:32 AM

A cheap way is to make sites for physical locations with not very many people, like Minto, Alaska. But that's not very amusing.

@Krazer Could work, but we have to decide if Gunpla are on topic here or not.

Krazer

I'll make a meta about this

Logan M

@Krazer I'll write an answer when you do.

Eric

You people are nuts. No wonder I hang out here so much. xD

Logan M

12:47 AM

@Eric Here's a code that compiles and runs in 16 different languages: raw.github.com/mauke/poly.poly/master/poly.poly

Eric

@LoganM That is awesome. AWESOME.

But not in Java.

lol

Lemme see if I can ID them all...

C, C++, Bash, Python, Ruby, Haskell, JavaScript, Perl, Brainfuck, MAKEFILE, HTML (if that counts)... that's 11.

Not sure the others. It won't compile in PHP or Java, for sure.

Logan M

@Eric Wikipedia says it's 16, but I don't know what they are: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyglot_%28computing%29

Eric

It might be counting trigraph enabling as another language. But that'd be weird.

Oh, it also shows SH and ZSH. That's 13.

Logan M

1:03 AM

@Eric Maybe they cleverly used Whitespace?

Eric

@LoganM Depends what Whitespace uses as comments. I think it throws a compiler error if it has anything but whitespace and comments.

Actually, seems you might be right: the Whitespace interpreter ignores any non-whitespace characters.

And given the amount of tabs at line ends, I'd say it can definitely be a program. So, 14.

TCL, apparently.

Whatever that is.

set =dummy 0; puts [list "I'm" "a" "tcl" "script."]; exit

We're just missing one! lol

Anything I can come up with (XML, C89, trigraph changes, Python/Perl version changes, etc.) seems like a cop-out. I'm really convinced there are only 15.

Krazer

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Q: Is the subject of gunpla, plastic models, or figures on topic?

There have been various anime and manga on Gundam models and model building. Model building is also a big part of otaku culture. Is the discussion of Gundam models or model/figures or the activity of building them (as long as they are based on anime or manga series, like Patlabor, Full Metal Pan...

Hell Butterfly

1:44 AM

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Q: Is the subject of gunpla, plastic models, or figures on topic?

There have been various anime and manga on Gundam models and model building. Model building is also a big part of otaku culture. Is the discussion of Gundam models or model/figures or the activity of building them (as long as they are based on anime or manga series, like Patlabor, Full Metal Pan...

discussion allowed-topics

Eric

You're a bit late to the party, Hell Butterfly.

Mysticial

@HellButterfly Fuck you that's a dupe.

Krazer

This game looks ridiculously good.... I just hope it's not another movie:

►

kuwaly

Are we discussing anything?

Eric

@kuwaly Life, the universe, and everything.

kuwaly

1:55 AM

ah

Sounds like fun

Krazer

How many times must the cannonballs fly, before they're forever banned?

kuwaly

What?

Krazer

we are discussing the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything, are we not?

kuwaly

ah

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Krazer

we're discussing the question. we already know the answer.

kuwaly

2:03 AM

Ah. Makes sense.

Eric

2:14 AM

@Krazer n + 1

Krazer

@Eric The answer is blowin' in the wind

Eric

@Krazer No, that's just a windsock.

Krazer

@Eric Windows Sockets?

Hell Butterfly

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Q: How should D.N.Angel and A.I. Love You be tagged?

There are a number of animes/mangas that have periods in their name, such as D.N.Angel and A.I. Love You. There are a few options for tagging them, using D.N.Angel as an example: dnangel d-n-angel dn-angel There should probably be some sort of precedent set up so it doesn't have to be asked e...

discussion tags

Eric

@Krazer xD

Logan M

2:48 AM

In the same vein as that question, should we switch dot-hack to .hack?

Eric

@LoganM If tags permit, yes. Definitely synonym that, though.

Logan M

@Eric It should. SO has stuff like .net

Eric

Then yeah, use .hack. That's how Wikipedia's title is, and I'd like us to match whenever possible. (It makes us blend into top results better.)

Logan M

I'll leave it to one of the mods(@Krazer) to fix since it needs a synonym.

Eric

You don't have any rep in .hack?

Logan M

2:50 AM

@Eric There's only 1 question in it.

Eric

Oh.

Logan M

Admittedly it's unanswered, but I don't know enough about .hack to answer that one.

Krazer

I know the answer, but you'll need to have played .hack//link or //versus to get the reference

it's a fairly simple one

Logan M

I don't know much about .hack at all. It's not really my kind of show since it doesn't have much fanservice or moe.

Eric

@Krazer So it does have an answer?

Krazer

2:59 AM

@Eric very much so

Eric

@Krazer When I get 2,050 rep I'll bounty it.

I just don't want to go back below 2,000. xD

It might be a good way to draw in some new users who can be enticed with a small bounty.

Krazer

@Eric I'd bounty it myself, but the answer is so simple it's almost not worth it

Eric

@Krazer If it brings a new user to the site, isn't that a +?

I also have a dead-easy Steins;Gate question I've been saving. It's really hardly even worth asking.

Logan M

@Eric Steins;Gate is something I'll probably answer if it shows up, and so will lots of other users, so I don't think it's likely to stay around for new users.

Eric

@LoganM Doesn't help that the question is basically dead easy if you watched the whole series.

^ For @Krazer.

Krazer

3:05 AM

xD

@Eric sure, but in Layton terms the question would only be worth 15 picarats

kuwaly

@Eric There's always that one guy who insists on holding the door when you're really far away.

Eric

@Krazer Truefaxx. But is it worth editing the Q or something just to bump it back to the top?

@kuwaly Yeah. It's soooo awkward. lol

Krazer

@Eric I sometimes do it to make them run

If someone can answer my dot hack question then I have a slightly harder one worth about 30 picarats

on a related subject in the same series

I wanna ask a question about this VN game: vgperson.com/other/ib.htm

but no one I know has played it D:

or even heard of it

Logan M

3:23 AM

@Krazer If you ask I might be motivated to play it.

I have it downloaded but my backlog is 30 games deep so I won't get to it unless there's some motivation.

Krazer

I wonder is "Ib" is too short for a tag name

Eric

@Krazer I think c is a tag on SO.

Krazer

k

Logan M

I wonder if . is a valid tag name.

Eric

@LoganM Your tag link links to /tagged/, not /tagged/., so I'd guess not.

Logan M

3:30 AM

Yeah it won't let me add the tag. Pressing [.][space] just deletes the period, which feels really unnatural to me.

Eric

That's pretty bad UX actually.

Logan M

In fact any number of periods with no other characters will have the same effect.

You can also mix hyphens in and it kills them too.

@Eric If you want to talk about bad UX, semicolon ends a tag name (same as space). I'll probably get messed up every time I try to type Steins;gate into the tag box.

Eric

... That's bad. I mean, it makes sense in terms of SO, but not elsewhere.

Logan M

Comma does the same thing, though it's a bit less annoying.

Eric

Comma makes more sense. It's a list delimiter in all forms of English.

I guess semicolon is, too, but it's used far more sparingly.

Most people don't even know how to use it.

Logan M

3:37 AM

@Eric You use it when you want to sound pedantic and annoying; I like sounding like that so I use it frequently.

Eric

Logan M

Some other strange things: you can't begin or end a tag with a hyphen, and you can't end one with a period.

Eric

That's odd. The latter, anyway.

It makes sense not to start or end with a hyphen, since those are space substitutes.

A period should be able to end, though, especially since you can start with it.

Logan M

@Eric They should use spaces then, not hyphens. It just makes everything one level more complicated.

Eric

Actually, I don't know why they even use hyphens.

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Q: Why do the tags have a dash in place of a space?

Why do the tags use dashes in-place of spaces? I'm writing a blogging engine and I am looking at Stackoverflow as a reference to implementing a tagging system. Spaces in tags are denoted by a dash. Tags are separated with spaces. What was the reason behind this? Why not have spaces in the tag...

discussion tags

So, there's no good reason.

Logan M

3:45 AM

Personally, I'd rather separate them by hitting [ENTER], but that tries to post the question.

Eric

@LoganM I like comma best, tbh. Or tab.

Either is fine with me.

Logan M

BTW regarding the Google issue this MSO post is a bit relevant but does not answer it at all:

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Q: How does Stack Overflow work so well with search engines?

How does Stack Overflow work so well with search engines? It's really amazing--if I post a question, within 15-30 minutes it'll show up in Google's search results! What are the tricks? sitemap.xml? Or, any other good methods? Help me, and others too, if anyone knows a good technique/method. (w...

discussion google seo sitemap search-engine

Eric

@LoganM I saw it as well. The +18 answer obliterated my hope in that thread, though.

Logan M

4:00 AM

@Eric While SO didn't have any trouble with SEO, I suspect other sites have had issues with it. It's very annoying to have questions not indexed for months at a time. I don't know if it's better to post more or to post less.

Eric

@LoganM I don't even know. I'd like to think more traffic would mitigate it. But Google will help us get more traffic to begin with!

Logan M

Anyway I still think we should ask on MSO. There are different aspects of this that I don't think have been asked before anywhere:
1) We're trying to get content indexed in the first place, not get higher rank in searches. If a post isn't indexed months later it seems like that's an indicator we should be doing something differently.
2) We're on the side of normal users, not webmasters. All of the resources which are available for SEO are designed for webmasters.

Eric

@LoganM Exactly. This, this, a million times. Make sure Madara (or whoever) sees this before the MSO post.

Time to head off. 'Night.

Krazer

5:20 AM

Ah if I post my Ib question, it will spoil a great deal of the game...

Robin

12:50 PM

hello peepz

anyone around?

Krazer

1:16 PM

@Robin Yes.

Robin

@krazer do you know any good online playlist for anime op/ed's?

Krazer

@Robin I have a work in progress playlist on groove shark if you are interested: grooveshark.com/playlist/Kaiseroll+No+Toki/76533413

Robin

i will check it out

on first glance it looks good. playing now :)

Krazer

@Robin let me know if you have any suggestions and/or additions. Enjoy~

Robin

@krazer sure.

Eric

2:03 PM

@Krazer Spoiler tags!

Krazer

@Eric I can't properly ask the question without the entire body being in a spoiler xD

Eric

@Krazer :( Well, you managed to make it work with the Steins;Gate one.

Krazer

2:23 PM

I hope this is satisfactory:

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Q: Is something preventing Mary from finding out who she really is?

Mary knows that she lives in a weird painting world and that outside of this world, there is another one where she might find her "father." However she is not aware of the fact that When she reads the art book, something messes with making it unreadable. Similarly, that entry gets swappe...

ib

Eric

5:15 PM

@Krazer Looks good to me. And they say we don't need inline spoilers. ;)

Eric

7:39 PM

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Q: How come there are so much vehicles running in the world of Hokutou no Ken?

In the world of Hokutou no Ken, as far as I see, there is no industry left. There is nowhere to produce parts of vehicles or repair the current ones. Also I don't see any industry power for finding oil and distributing it to towns. However, there are a lot of vehicles running in the series. Wher...

hokutou-no-ken industry explanation

Does this question need those last two tags? I'm going to say no, but I want to make sure I'm not the only one.

hey @Eric

@JNat Hey!

@Eric I removed them

@JNat Aw, I wanted to. :(

JNat

@Eric sorry XD

next time I'll answer here

and let you do it :P

Eric

7:41 PM

Yay!

Krazer

Let it be know that Eric has dibs.

Eric

@Krazer Hear, hear! xD

JNat

@Krazer hehe

JNat

8:14 PM

anyone noticed the slight change that has occurred?

the related questions that appear on the right side of the question your looking at now have the number of upvotes

Logan M

When you guys retag the question, you should also probably fix obvious grammar mistakes, especially in the title. I did it this time but it really should happen immediately or else we risk forgetting to do it entirely, which will definitely hurt the overall traffic for the question.

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Eric

@LoganM Oh, yeah, that was my bad. That's the reason I went to edit the question to begin with. D'oh.

Mysticial

8:31 PM

@JNat It's been on meta.SO for more than a week now.

They just rolled it out to the main sites like 2 days ago.

Eric

Has this been answered in the manga yet?

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Q: What does Unohana Retsu's Bankai do?

What does Unohana Retsu's Bankai do? It was not so clear in the manga.

bleach

It's the top-rated unanswered question, and everyone seemed to think the next chapter(s) would reveal the answer.

Krazer

@Eric not at this rate, it's Quincy time

Eric

@Krazer ... lol

Krazer

8:47 PM

@Eric Unohana's bankai is so awesome it will never appear in the manga, in fact Kubo is preparing a whole new manga just to show it.

Eric

@Krazer Whaaaaaat

Thatssostupid.

Logan M

I can't ask any of my questions right now because they're the kind that are likely to go unanswered for a long time and our %Ans is at 88% :(

Krazer

@LoganM please provide us with a sampler

Eric

@LoganM Hey, I answered the Paca Plus one. Took me a while, but I did. xD

Krazer

@Eric The reason why we've never seen the release of Minazuki is because the level of awesomeness would have reached a critical mass so high that your screen/page would have exploded.

Logan M

8:51 PM

@Eric Paca Plus is a pretty small game with an English translation. If I ask about a much longer game something more plot related it's not likely to get answered.

Eric

@LoganM True, though admittedly I didn't actually play through the game to get to the answer.

Logan M

@Krazer Here's an example one:

anime.stackexchange.com/questions/2185/…

@Eric If I had asked something where it wasn't clear where in the story the answer would be you'd have to play it.

Mysticial

in The Heap, 2 mins ago, by billinkc

You would think for as anal as they are about giving out permissions around here, they'd understand how they fucking work

^^ chat flag on that

lol

Eric

@Mysticial Yeah, lol.

Mysticial

chat flags are so rare on the main SE network...

It's actually kinda boring.

Unlike the SO chat where flags pop up every few minutes and take half an hour to clear.

damn... just missed that flag

didn't see what it was

Eric

8:56 PM

@Mysticial It was Madara making a silly comment about the previous flag and its sexual connotations. xD

But he deleted the message.

Mysticial

oh

@Eric What did he say?

Krazer

> I know you guys are talking about DBs and all, but "[a null]" and "[trucking]" in the same sentence is a bit too much :D

Eric

Yeah. That. ^

@Krazer Why do you block out the swear words? It's trucking annoying. ;)

Mysticial

lol

Eric

And now I must bid you all adieu. I have to go get assessed on my driving before my test. See you.

Krazer

8:59 PM

@Eric I dun wanna be flagged ;_;

@Eric adieu... as in forever?!

Eric

@Krazer Don't worry, champ. I'll be back... when you least expect it.

Krazer

yay~

@Eric hit ti cones for bonus points, the multiplier goes up with air combos!

Eric

@Krazer Totally! :D

Back in two hours, now.

Logan M

Can anyone here see the image in this answer?

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A: What happens to the members of W.I.S.E. near the end of the Psyren?

If you look at chapter 145 (page 4) in the manga, you can see this: Yoshina asks No. 7 about Ouroboros, and she says that it has disappeared into space again in exchange for her brother's and Grana's lives. So, if we take the words of No. 7 seriously, yes, they died.

Krazer

@LoganM I cannot

Mysticial

9:11 PM

nope

Logan M

I think he's tried to embed an image hosted at i4.mangareader.net/psyren/145/psyren-1596765.jpg which doesn't allow it. He sees the image because it's cached but we can't see anything.

Mysticial

403 forbidden

can't even edit in the image manually since I can't even find the image at all...

Logan M

@Mysticial Yes, I also get 403, so I can't go and fix it since I don't know what the image is supposed to be.

Krazer

assuming this is the image, I think this only partially answers the question

Logan M

@Krazer I don't know if that's the page he's referencing, but I agree that wouldn't really answer the question very well.

Krazer

9:17 PM

@LoganM it looks like it, based on what he is referencing

Logan M

@Krazer I think he might be referencing a couple of pages later.

Krazer

@LoganM yeah you're probably right

I added a comment about rehosting images on imgur

Logan M

@Krazer I did too since I hadn't seen yours. lol

Krazer

xD!

Logan M

I'm still not sure if that will answer the question though since I haven't read much of Psyren. I dropped it after about 1 volume when I realized there wasn't going to be much moe or fanservice.

Jon Lin

9:36 PM

that's not the image

you can't click the link because it'll have a referer and mangareader.net must be setup to refuse image requests with a referer that is not them

need to copy and paste the link into a blank window so no referer is sent

Logan M

@JonLin I think that's exactly what I did. Are you getting a different URL?

Jon Lin

err, no, I meant @Krazer's link

Fixed the post with an uploaded image

Logan M

Now I really don't understand how that answers the question. In any case IMO the only panel of that image which is relevant to the answer is the lower right one.

Krazer

it only accounts for 2 WISE members

on the future timeline nonetheless

Logan M

9:51 PM

It seems to me that the OP specifically referenced the next page of the manga in the question, meaning that they probably already knew this. So I don't think this can possibly answer it.

It seems like the OP is asking what happened in events which are not described in the manga. There may be information in the LN epilogue regarding this, but I don't think it's possible to answer based on the manga alone satisfactorily since the OP already knows the manga's ending.

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