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Anonymous

00:19

Time to temporarily retire from my job and modhood while I become one with the factory again

Veskah

The Omnissiah beckons

1 hour later…

El'endia Starman

01:47

I'm hopping on the Factorio bandwagon too!

Veskah

02:20

All the cool[citation needed] kids are doing it

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman @Mego @Anyone interested in some multiplayer?

I'd love to set up a server, but I doubt any of the servers have 0.17 by now

Anonymous

Sure, I can play multiplayer for a little bit

Anonymous

I can run a server

DJMcMayhem

Well sweet

Should I download 0.17.0, or 0.17.1, since the devs are crazy people

Anonymous

02:26

I have Steam keeping me on the latest version

Anonymous

Oops, I had seablock enabled

DJMcMayhem

I really need to try that out sometime

Anonymous

Only mods enabled are bottleneck and far reach. I'd enable squeeze through, but it's not updated yet.

DJMcMayhem

Cool, just let me know when it's up

Anonymous

It's up

Anonymous

02:35

Server: PPCG, pw: ppcgseventeen

Anonymous

Railworld, water only in starting area, fewer trees, research queue available immediately

El'endia Starman

03:28

I've been playing through the intro campaign and taking notes.

Veskah

Not sure how good the new campaign is, teaching wise. Play enough to get the general inputs down, then look up shortcuts and tips. There's a lot of them that make life better

El'endia Starman

03:46

@Veskah Have you played the new campaign?

Veskah

Nope

El'endia Starman

04:15

Ah. Well, so far, it's definitely way better than the previous campaign. Still some gaps and issues, to be sure, but it's muuuch better at teaching stuff.

Got to the point where I have to automate enough electronic circuits, firearm magazines, and red science and I am taking a break for tonight.

Veskah

Noice

Nathan Merrill

04:58

My favorite change? the new UI

seriously, I've been waiting for this new toolbar for forever

9 hours later…

El'endia Starman

14:19

> Improved game startup performance when using a large amount of technologies with deep dependency trees (it's now 67,000 times faster).

67000x improvement is quite impressive in any instance. I wonder what was slowing that down so much?

4 hours later…

Anonymous

18:31

@El'endiaStarman Bubble sort

Nathan Merrill

20:03

I just barely got green science going, but I already have my full smeltery finished :)

DJMcMayhem

That's a lot of gear assemblers haha

Although I guess it is technically the right ratio (at least for assembler 1s)

Nathan Merrill

yeah, all about those ratios

I believe I also have the smelter ratio right (for smelter 2s)

Also, cliffs are way more annoying, and I love it

DJMcMayhem

Your circuit ratios are a bit off though ;)

Nathan Merrill

what do you mean circuit? I don't have a circuit factory yet. I was going to build one, but...cliffs

DJMcMayhem

Green chips

Nathan Merrill

20:12

I know what circuits are, I'm just not sure what you are saying :)

oh, are you making a joke that 0 circuits is a bad ratio? If so, took me long enough :)

DJMcMayhem

No, you're making green chips in 2 different places

One for your inserters, one to a chest

But if that's just a temp thing before you make a bigger build, it's probably not super important to get the ratios perfect

Nathan Merrill

yeah. I believe I'm making sufficient circuits for my green science.

And yeah, I will be building a bigger factory. But actually want to get trains first.

DJMcMayhem

I think it's interesting to see the different patterns different players come up with

Like for example, I pretty much always have my finished plates go the same direction as my ore does. So in your example, I would have put the iron/copper lines going north and then production up there

Nathan Merrill

Yeah, I usually do that too. I swapped it this time because the biggest mines I could find were north

so my train stop is going above

DJMcMayhem

Are you planning on unloading plates or ore from your train?

Nathan Merrill

20:17

ore

I've never smelted onsite. Maybe I should try it

DJMcMayhem

I'm the opposite. I have never trained in iron/copper ore other than something quick and dirty that I end up removing later

I do train stone and coal though, since that's kinda hard to avoid.

Nathan Merrill

Do you have a single mine dedicated to steel then?

DJMcMayhem

@NathanMerrill Depends if it can keep up or not. I'd usually start with a dedicated steel mine and then once my factory expands too much or the patch gets low I'd add a second (or third etc.)

Nathan Merrill

Right, but you aren't using the same mine for both iron and steel

DJMcMayhem

Oh yes, correct

Nathan Merrill

20:21

Because if you look at my setup, you'll notice that the 3rd and 4th smelters feed into the 5th one

using splitters, of course

DJMcMayhem

Oh I didn't notice that.

I can't see where the 3rd connects in. And did you mean to send half to your 5th and half to the bus?

Nathan Merrill

It's so I don't starve a single lane. I know I can balance later, but I find it simpler to deal with the problem earlier

DJMcMayhem

@DJMcMayhem Caveat, I will use a single patch for iron and steel in the early game.

Nathan Merrill

oh! I know what you mean

you're right. Yes, half of my 3rd is supposed to go to my 5th

DJMcMayhem

Once you get to megabase scale, it's probably a lot better to do it your way for steel, since beacons don't balance quite as well if you're inserting directly from a plate smelter to a steel smelter

Although I guess direct insertion is better for UPS. Hmm...

It caught me off guard that Assembler 2s need steel now. That's an interesting change. (But probably a good one overall)

Nathan Merrill

20:25

wait, what?

ok, I need to play now

oh wow. Iron sticks are super common now too

oh, it's just the power poles. Still

DJMcMayhem

Did they add iron sticks to something?

Nathan Merrill

yeah, a bunch of them