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12:00 AM
@quid DId you participate in sci.math?
@quid Did you participate in sci.math?
 
@BillDubuque I don't think it'd be constructive to enumerate such incidents. Maybe I have already said too much.
 
@quid You can give generic examples without using names. Otherwise I have no way to judge if you are misunderstanding - as above.
 
@BillDubuque passively.
 
@quid What does that mean? Let's be specific. Please explain how you think I may have gotten some ego boost from sci.math (or from here).
 
@BillDubuque I read it on webpages that archived the messages.
 
12:05 AM
@quid Huh? Did you ever use usenet newsgroups? Probably the only users who got an ego boost from them are cranks.
 
@BillDubuque no but I read some things that were written there on archival webpages (I think it was called Physicsforum).
There were all kinds of hilarious stories.
Never imagined how much virtual ink could be spilled about the classical proof of the infinitude of primes.
Of course there was also more interesting stuff than that.
Anyway, I won't tell you how I think you got a boost of your ego out of some activity. That be a bit inappropriate and also useless as you'd anyway just deny it.
 
@quid I was a heavy user of sci.math and I don't recall any discussion of such matters of ego (about the users I mentioned).
 
@BillDubuque I am not sure how this is relevant.
 
@quid So you really think that you know better than I whether or not sci.math boosted my ego? Really?
 
@BillDubuque no, as I said:
1 min ago, by quid
Anyway, I won't tell you how I think you got a boost of your ego out of some activity. That be a bit inappropriate and also useless as you'd anyway just deny it.
 
12:12 AM
please calm down, guys :-)
 
And as I said earlier I don't think it'd be useful to continue this. But you insisted. But I have to leave now anyway. Have a nice Sunday evening. Until next time!
 
@quid Actually I think it is highly relevant because your replies highlight many of the problems at the heart of these matters. Namely, some users are greatly misjudging the motivations of other prolific contributors. It is highly presumptuous of you to think that you have the knowledge necessary to make such complicated judgments on motivations for contributions. Ego plays no role whatsoever in my motivations to do volunteer teaching and I think this is true for most all professionals
 
It's ultimately irrelevant.
I really have to leave now. See you!
 
cya
 
@close-deleteautomaton actually i'd disliked that question for a long time, so no harm done.
 
12:19 AM
@quid I strongly disagree. As I argued above, ego is greatly intertwined in these matters. If you don't acknowledge that then there is no hope of solving these problems.
 
i'll be the first to point out that things used to be different, though, both for us long-time users and for the site in general. the culture was different then and so were we.
 
true dat^
 
@BillDubuque yes, I agree with the fact that it is relevant. I even said it is more relevant than you said so, since after all I saw it's relevance where you do not believe it is. What is irrelevant is what somebody believes about somebodies motivations specifically.
Boost ones ego. Sheer altruism. Where is the line exactly? That's a tricky question.
 
@close-deleteautomaton i disagree the other question you flagged (of mine) was a PSQ, though. I am not of the opinion that simply asking a question as a question implies a lack of context.
 
12:32 AM
@quid But it is relevant because it affects how we treat each other here, how we make policy decisions, etc. Honestly I am shocked that a long-time user like you would think that ego plays any role in motivating contributions by professionals. I'd really like to understand better how you came to believe this.
 
@AlexanderGruber well, if you take as definition of PSQ the phrase you get when unabbreviating, it seems to be.
(Whether or not it "lacks context" is indeed a different question)
 
@MikeMiller that is true.
 
@quid Does ego play any role in motivating your contributions here?
 
(On the other hand best practices by anyone who actually cares would just be to vote to close instead of leaving a comment on a long-abandoned thread.)
Last sentence is stated too objectively. What I mean is that I would prefer people to just silently close and delete any old questions of mine they perceived as bad than a rather short comment to make a point.
I'd rather receive comments informing me when something is wrong, as I can then either fix it or delete it if it's not worth the time. But if they don't like the question, eh, go ahead and throw your close votes at it.
 
parenthetical suggestion---->(could you @AlexanderGruber, as a moderator in a chatroom, please try and find an avatar without a drawn sword on it? :-)
 
12:44 AM
@user2646 oh, that's just one of those chalkboard pointer things.
 
lol
yesterday, by user 2646
has anybody heard from Daniel Fischer?
 

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