Minecraft

@SocraticPhoenix A few requests: Mystical Agriculture, Botania, Blood Magic, RFTools (+ Control and Dimensions), Extreme Reactors, Better Builder's Wands, Chest Transporter, Biomes o' Plenty, Chisel, Chisels & Bits, Dark Utilities, Ender IO, Extra Utilities, Flux Networks, GraveStone Mod, Integrated Dynamics, Inventory Sorter, Iron Chests, JourneyMap, LootBags, Morpheus, Mouse Tweaks, Neat, Ore Excavation, Pam's Harvestcraft, Simple Barrels, Simple Generators, Super Circuit Maker, Tinkers Tool Leveling

Anonymous

Okay that ended up being more than "a few" :P

Anonymous

Oh and Waddles, the most important mod

dzaima

6:35 AM

@Mego Chisels & Bits how did I forget it..

Socratic Phoenix

Woah... @Mego.a bunch of those are already o. The list... And we're looking for 1.12 (I think we decided), is botania (and the others) 1.12 compatibility?

@dzaima agreed

Anonymous

@SocraticPhoenix Oh, I was pulling from a list of my favorite 1.10 mods. I don't know how many are compatible with 1.12.

Socratic Phoenix

@Mego I'll look around

dzaima

I'm really surprised with how much 1.12 compatibility exists

Anonymous

@SocraticPhoenix And also oops, I missed MA, Iron Chests, and Extra Utilities being on the list. Big list to filter :P

dzaima

6:38 AM

RFTools has a 6 day old 1.12 release :D

Socratic Phoenix

@Mego no prob :)

dzaima

Chisels & Bits has 1.12 too

Anonymous

@dzaima IIRC a 1.12 compatibility library mod was made shortly after the 1.12 release, which made updating mods to 1.12 from 1.10 a lot less painful than 1.7 to 1.10 was.

dzaima

@Mego oh, cool

Dark Utilities is 1.12, simple generators & simple barrels arent

Socratic Phoenix

@Mego the major thing 1.12 changed was recipes, which can be converted either with a utility program or by hand...

dzaima

6:42 AM

JourneyMap (1.12 beta 23h ago :o)

can't remember, did Extra Utilities have graves or do we need a separate mod for it?

Anonymous

@SocraticPhoenix IIRC the NBT tag changes caused problems

Anonymous

@dzaima I don't think EU adds graves. GraveStone Mod does, and it's really nice.

dzaima

@Mego yeah, doesn't seem like it does.

Oh, I was thinking of OpenBlocks graves, but OpenBlocks isn't 1.12 :/

dzaima

10:39 AM

veinminer

Socratic Phoenix

11:14 AM

What kind of limit do we want to put on mod count? I've got 43 locally and 30-something in the git repository... obviously all of the mods can be changed, removed, or we can add new ones, but do we want <30, <50, or more? (I personally would like to aim for right around 50)

dzaima

@SocraticPhoenix why put a limit? just add mods until it feels like there's enough to do

Socratic Phoenix

11:37 AM

@dzaima well... Yeah that makes sense...

Socratic Phoenix

12:00 PM

@dzaima journey map has a restricted licenses... it has some awfully restrictive modpack permissions... It could probably still be included, but the modpack would have to be hosted on curse, which is a pain because it's already on github -_-

dzaima

@SocraticPhoenix yeah, I saw that..

I suggest not adding it in the pack itself but everyone could individually install it if they want to

Socratic Phoenix

@dzaima agreed

@dzaima what's the difference between Chisel and Chisel & Bits?

dzaima

@SocraticPhoenix chisel adds many more block types but chisel & bits allows to place blocks in 1/8 of a block size or so

Socratic Phoenix

ah okay

dzaima

so both should be added as each does a separate thing

Socratic Phoenix

12:11 PM

@dzaima Yeah... I'm in the process of going through all of @Mego's requests and seeing which ones would even be possible to add...

aww flux networks is outdated :( it looked cool too...

Why do the best ones have to be outdated... tinker's tool leveling is 1.11 and that makes me sad :(

dzaima

@SocraticPhoenix the best mods are the most complex and are more difficult to update

Socratic Phoenix

@dzaima grumbles something about 1.12 not really changing that much stuff

Socratic Phoenix

1:27 PM

uh oh... biomes o' plenty appears to be crashing the game :(

someone's core mod is messing with the rendering >:(

Socratic Phoenix

1:40 PM

or maybe it's the version change?

dzaima

do the individual mods work independently?

Socratic Phoenix

@dzaima some do, yes... there's some NPE's going on during model loading for some mods - thing is, these mods were working before, so it must be a mod I added, which I assume is a coremod because coremods are evil

i'm in the process of removing mods 1by1

HAHA, i removed something and it started working!

now I just have to remember what I removed...

Socratic Phoenix

2:11 PM

it's chisel

I think i'm missing a library mod... why couldn't it have just said that?

That was it - all the mods are working now! (or at least, loading...)

Socratic Phoenix

2:24 PM

65 mods loaded atm, IIRC 5 of them are from forge being installed...

Socratic Phoenix

2:39 PM

current mods & configs pushed to github. Everything appears to load fine... I've got to work do a thing for a while, but I'll stay in chat and watch it, so ping me if u need me :)

(note: none of those mods are final - we can still remove or add, feel free to ask/discuss)

PhiNotPi

how much would this impact game performance?

dzaima

@PhiNotPi depends on the computer, but I've played packs with way more IIRC

PhiNotPi

I just have a laptop.

Socratic Phoenix

@PhiNotPi my computer handled it well... I think I had full 12 chunks render distance

@PhiNotPi specs? I am on laptop as well

PhiNotPi

Win10 laptop, i5-4210u dual-core processor, 4 gigs RAM, just the internal graphics card whatever that is.

dzaima

2:49 PM

@PhiNotPi Approximately same here (though 8 gigs RAM & 4-core (MC isn't very multicore though)) so you should be fine

Socratic Phoenix

@PhiNotPi @dzaima and if not, we can always cut down on the number of mods :)

@dzaima I believe that, at most, MC can utilize 3 cores for it's 3 threads (network, client, server), or 2 if your on playing on a remote server (network, client).. I could be wrong though... and OptiFine provides some multi-threaded world loading options IIRC

Socratic Phoenix

3:41 PM

Who's in close to North America, and who's close to Europe? The hosting service @DJMcMayhem linked allows you to pick servers in those two locations...

dzaima

@SocraticPhoenix Europe here

Socratic Phoenix

I'm in North America (but I don't mind a server far away :) )

dzaima

poll for which location?

Socratic Phoenix

@dzaima Already thought of it :)

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