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12:01 AM
No, but I'd wonder if a statue being taken down is a symbol of that change? I'd also be interested in knowing how removing a statue of a slaver will shift peoples' opinions on the whole thing? (If at all)
 
It appears we need a global Mahatma Gandhi movement
pipe dream^
 
Tim
"a statue being taken down" is not a sufficient but necessary condition of "that change"
If that change happens, there is no way that such a statue can still stand
 
Ave
12:16 AM
@skillpatrol it's not about changing views
it's about getting rid of things in daily life that DIRECTLY represent those that were monsters and their ideologies.
 
Tim
Looks like Romney shows some sign of awakening, by marching in DC today
and not supporting his party leader's reelection
 
Ave
12:34 AM
I'm not a sir :)
And statues are that: Symbolism.
 
Oops
Sorry
 
@fredley i think she's gotten into a loop now with the same content because i'm quite she she's posted this stuff last time
 
@fredley but, will it hold up in court?
 
1:09 AM
@Mithrandir24601 you should come and join us in the h bar or the maths room, there's lots of socialization going on in there :-)
 
 
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2:27 AM
@TimStone see additional reports that between 300 and 800 officers are retiring immediately
Remember: last time nypd went on strike, major crime complaints went down
 
3:08 AM
The only way to own us more is for more of them to retire
 
Yeah it would genuinely be bad if they all quit
 
3:33 AM
@Unionhawk what if they all quit, and then try to join the mafia, but then they get fired because the mafia think they're too violent.
 
I mean that and because I assume when you join the first question they ask is "hey, you a cop?"
 
3:53 AM
patient appears alert and oriented x4 at least
assuming they know the approximate time and location
 
I refuse to believe he's ever used the word intimating, for starters
But also imagining someone sitting at home suffering from sports withdrawal doing the which_button.jpg over being racist vs watching the game to get their fix
 
4:12 AM
has this ever been like, against league rules
aside from like, just general "you might get fucking blacklisted from the league because every owner is racist or thinks doing racism will make them more money"?
 
I mean I think he has a firm appreciation that the power structure determines what the "rules" actually are
 
 
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5:22 AM
lmao:
> There are many grounding techniques, though not all are appropriate for use during an action (for example, closing your eyes and visualizing a peaceful scene is likely more dangerous than helpful)
 
:-/
 
6:25 AM
6 hours ago, by skillpatrol
It appears we need a global Mahatma Gandhi movement
 
 
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7:29 AM
@Nzall I mean I did but that's because it's my irrational pet paranoia
@Unionhawk No small amount either, jfc
 
 
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11:08 AM
So, it's official: yesterday's protest in Bristol is part of history now
 
11:34 AM
@Nzall lol, i just got back from watching South Park and Last Week Tonight, my TV in my room has So Have You Been Paying Attention and it just showed this
 
12:18 PM
@Nzall Oh no, the sun is angry at us, and thinks we need to be punished for our sins.
 
1:13 PM
@fredley lol jfc "Get served, American police"
Man, the British are just as good at Canadians at telling people to politely "get fucked"
I didn't even hear about the Bristol protests unti l this morning
 
@fredley Wow, that whole thing seemed to be leading to a 'this whole incident was a disaster', then he was just like 'I fully support my officers'
 
Oh wait, I did hear about this. I didn't realize that statue was in Bristol. I just assumed it was in some southern US state.
 
@Wipqozn Oh I heard them all right :P I'm 'clinically vulnerable', so opted not to go, but I certainly heard them
 
@Wipqozn Yeah lots of statues of british racists too
 
@Unionhawk That reminds me, I wonder where the edward cornwallis statue from Halifax is... last I heard they hid it away in a box somewhere
Okay it's still a box until they decide what to do with it
 
1:19 PM
@Wipqozn I've watched videos from the Mayor of Bristol, the superintendent (at the 'scene') and the Labour party leader. It's pretty unanimous that people are more than happy for the statue to not be there, only can't condone things like 'damage to public property'
(and that it'll be fished from the harbour at some point to go into a museum)
 
Just shove the damn thing in a museum alongside the proper historical context. A statue in a museum sends a very different message than one at the centre of a public park.
and also serves a very different purpose
 
Yup. Question is if they'll rename things like the Colston Hall now
 
Colston School, etc.
 
Just rename it to "Colston was a Racist Hall"
 
@Unionhawk We pretty much invented it, exported it to America etc...
 
1:27 PM
@fredley One of your largest exports, really.
 
@Wipqozn "How can a Hall be racist?"
@Wipqozn That and Homo/Transphobia!
We literally exported our rigid morality around sexual relations across the globe!
British Empire worst Empire
 
@fredley It certainly ranks high on the worstest list, at least.
most empires probably do, at least at some point.
Rome certainly was complete garbage fire of wealth and class inequality after a while.
 
relatedly, stop posting "actually winston churchil is antifa" challenge
 
1:48 PM
Apparently the national democrats plan to ban chokeholds, racial profiling, and require body cameras
note that chokeholds have been banned in NYC since the 1990s, and uh
yeah
Pretty sure racial profiling is also illegal
And I don't think there's any evidence that body cameras reduce police violence or increase prosecutions of the police or anything they're mostly just used by police to gather further evidence
 
@TimStone Why does Winston look so angry in his statue lol
 
and whenever they need to do a crime they just loudly announce into the camera that they think their life is in danger or turn it off
 
@Unionhawk Turning off their camera should be an immediate suspension if it's a requirement, no?
 
Then you always have option 1, the "activate qualified immunity" maneuver
 
@Wipqozn 'British Bulldog'
 
2:01 PM
@Unionhawk tbh the real problem isn't that these methods aren't effective, it's that they're not effective if the organization itself is still corrupt and doesn't give a fuck.
Body cams would be effective at weeding out bad seeds, if nothing else, if the organization itself wasn't so corrupt and loved turning a blind eye to (or even encouraging) police brutality.
 
And also like, who's going to arrest a cop for killing a guy by chokehold
because so far the track record is "nobody"
oh speaking of I should get in on this wikipedia move discussion (there's a discussion to move Death of Eric Garner to Killing of Eric Garner)
 
2:22 PM
Looks like the consensus is leaning strongly in support of the move but it's always good to add another voice to the pile (and another supporting example since it's not a vote)
 
3:13 PM
@Unionhawk but wouldn't that make Stop and Frisk illegal given how it targeted mainly black people?
 
3:58 PM
Floyd, et al. v. City of New York, et al. (case citation of 959 F. Supp. 2d 540 (2013)) is a set of cases addressing the class action lawsuit filed against the City of New York, Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly, Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and named and unnamed New York City police officers ("Defendants"), alleging that defendants have implemented and sanctioned a policy, practice, and/or custom of unconstitutional stops and frisks by the New York Police Department ("NYPD") on the basis of race and/or national origin, in violation of Section 1983 of title forty-two of the United States Code, the...
It was illegal
 
4:15 PM
Plant that causes 3rd-degree burns about to bloom in Canada theweathernetwork.com/ca/news/article/…
> Giant hogweed is not new to Canada, but every year unsuspecting residents come into contact with the dangerous plant, leading to rashes, burns and -- in extreme cases -- blindness.
2020, wtf
 
4:35 PM
@Wipqozn It literally says it's a yearly occurence
 
4:49 PM
Yeah that's a really common plant
Over here =o
(reuzenberenklauw)
Giant Bear Claw
 
> Medics have written about using homeopathic remedies to treat different illnesses and injuries including riot control agent contamination
I mean
given that first aid there is water to begin with
 
5:20 PM
WTF? Why is Chauvin in a wheelchair?
On MSNBC just now.
On his way to a court hearing, he's in a wheelchair and MSNBC doesn't mention it.
A Google search reveals nothing.
Am I imagining this?
 
yeah NYC guy used a mic check to plug his instagram lol
 
But uhh also looking at that picture quite a bit to unpack
 
like come on man
 
@Nzall Look, I'm trying to meme over here
 
6:17 PM
Apparently, yes. I was imagining Chauvin in a wheelchair. Weird.
 
7:16 PM
@TimStone We should start doing something similar with ticks. Fuck ticks.
> Ticks have a variety of natural predators including ants, spiders, and birds, though most are generalists that only occasionally feed on ticks. As such, these generalist predators tend to be ineffective at significantly reducing tick populations.
Of course. Fuck Ticks.
We should just breed a super ant eater that only feeds on ticks
Genetically engineer or whatever
 
sigh if I were running for president I would simply have better politics
 
@Unionhawk What would you do about the ticks?
 
not that I expected Mr. Biden to change his position from "give the police more money actually"
 
@Unionhawk Something which recently occurred to me is how much easier it would be for Canada it just straight up demolish and rebuild local police compared to the USA, since you don't have an equivalent to the RCMP. They're... kind of like the FBI, but they're also drastically different. Most importantly RCMP essentially just act as the local police in areas which can't sustain their own police force, or just need more assistance.
aka we could just demolish local police, rebuild them, but have the RCMP doing regular police force while we prepare an actual more functional replacement
More tricky for you since the FBI doesn't really do that, from what I understand. They just handle federal crimes.
 
Surprised he didn't say Gullen firebombed a Target
Meanwhile the American President is very concerned about polls
 
7:39 PM
@TimStone so apparently the ban had a "but the chief can order it idc"
Odds that the chief will order it every day for the next 30 days are 1:1
 
@TimStone that letter is so pathetic
 
(the IUPA is the International Union of Police Associations)
 
7:55 PM
@Unionhawk My jaw is officially dropped.
 
It's possibly happening although I'd need to see resolutions from more AFL-CIO member unions than just WGA East to be confident in that
 
8:23 PM
@Mithrandir24601 We've actually known that a long time, right?
> aggressively enforcing minor legal statutes incites more severe criminal acts
umm... yeah.
 
@Jolenealaska Expected, but I've never seen it written in a scientific journal (i.e. considerably more than a newspaper) before
 
Maybe I'm conflating that with some child psychology I took a few lifetimes ago.
 
The article's a few years old, to be fair
 
I'm actually appreciating the article in an ass-backward way.
The premise has been a truism in my mind forever. So I was just kind of pondering whether I'm in the minority in that.
Which would explain a lot.
 
 
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10:24 PM
> Chief Moore: Hundreds Of LAPD Jobs Will Be Eliminated If Police Budget Is Reduced
oh no that'd be terrible
 
10:44 PM
We can't have our president found hiding in a bunker, but we can hunt down Saddam in a spider hole?
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Operation Red Dawn was an American military operation conducted on 13 December 2003 in the town of ad-Dawr, Iraq, near Tikrit, that led to the capture of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. The operation was named after the 1984 film Red Dawn. The mission was assigned to the 1st Brigade Combat Team of the 4th Infantry Division, commanded by Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno and led by Col. James Hickey of the 4th Infantry Division, with joint operations Task Force 121—an elite and covert joint special operations team. They searched two sites, "Wolverine 1" and "Wolverine 2," outside the town of ad-Dawr, but...
See YouTube for the actual film of his execution.
 
11:31 PM
Oh right, one boxing for that image won't work
Few days old, but I didn't realize they put up additional fencing around the white house.
 
11:54 PM
Given the power tech has taken lately we should probably get in that whole addressing the systemic problems thing before we gotta do a repeat here
 

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