This Is Fine

12:02 AM

OMG it's fucking happening. On MSNBC they just did a story about farmers killing their livestock (cattle and pigs) to just rot because they can't afford to feed them.

That's heartbreaking.

How many people are going to starve to death in the next years?

Tim Stone

1:41 AM

@MadScientist lol I hate him so much

Jolenealaska

I am going to buy many, many pounds of fireworks for election day. I sure hope I have cause to set them off the second the election is called.

Stormblessed

2:42 AM

the New York Times has almost figured out that they don't have to be nice in headlines

"Trump’s Disinfectant Remark Raises a Question About the ‘Very Stable Genius’

actually kinda funny headline

hope to see less both-sides

@TimStone that is the most ridiculous thing he's said in recent memory (uhhh 7 hours?)

is this his new thing

"the idiotic thing I said was just a prank to own the libs by showing how dumb I am"

Martin Sleziak

4:12 AM

BBC: Coronavirus: Boris Johnson back at Downing Street to lead response "Boris Johnson has returned to Downing Street to take charge of the UK's response to the coronavirus outbreak."

Stormblessed

5:31 AM

Twitter sucks

I was talking about polls when a Bernie supporter pointed out that NC senate is very important

Then in about a minute like 7 people came in to talk about how Bernie sucks

This started from me just posting a poll

the left should chill a little

Tim Stone

1:38 PM

> USDA let millions of pounds of food rot while food-bank demand soared

So the answer to why all those farmers couldn't give food to people who needed it was that they could have but it was the USDA's prerogative to buy and distribute it and they waited far too long to be useful

MBraedley

@TimStone twitter.com/MBraedley/status/1254433808662835200?s=20

Tim Stone

This is true, though we are pretty good about giving farmers literally everything for some reason

Tim Stone

1:56 PM

> The committee of inspectors general overseeing Coronavirus oversight funds has launched a new website and Twitter handle

Unionhawk

2:08 PM

@TimStone On the opposite side, some portland anti-antifa politician was apparently mad that bob's red mill donated thousands of pounds of flour in huge bags and meanwhile her grocery store has been out yesterday

love to go to safeway and buy a 25lb bag of flour

which is a thing that is normally kept in stock

and not typically sold to commercial bakeries only

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Relatedly

Unionhawk

In any case, the most efficient method of distributing resources etc etc

Tim Stone

GIVE ME SOURDOUGH OR GIVE ME DEATH

Private Pansy

2:27 PM

... microwavable rice?

Tim Stone

> 2nd #SCOTUS decision is a win for fans of legal transparency and cost-free access to legal materials. Largely 7-2 ruling that Georgia cannot copyright annotations to its laws

@PrivatePansy Look we're monsters here we've already established that

Unionhawk

@TimStone Oh god I'm sure Thomas is going to write an absolute banger of a dissent here lol

MBraedley

@PrivatePansy amazon.ca/Knorr-Sidekicks-Mexican-Rice-count/dp/B00IHRS3P2

(I know from experience that the microwave directions are on the bottom.)

Tim Stone

> THOMAS, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which ALITO, J., joined, and in which BREYER, J., joined as to all but Part II–A and footnote 6

lol

Private Pansy

The Mash Report Series 4 Episode 3 (S04E03)

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Tim Stone

2:43 PM

lol

MBraedley

@TimStone Wait, I'm confused. Did RBG (joined by Breyer) say that the copyright should stand? And I see two dissenting opinions from a total of 5 justices. The opinion of the court doesn't list the enjoining justices.

Unionhawk

> ROBERTS, C. J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which SOTOMAYOR, KAGAN, GORSUCH, and KAVANAUGH, JJ., joined

Yeah that looks 5-4 unless the partial dissents make the count weirder

Stormblessed

@TimStone this is the most ridiculous thing to have to get to the Supreme Court

if laws are copyrighted then it is harder to read them

and harder to know them

so how are you supposed to not break them 🤔

almost like they want you to break the laws

MBraedley

@Unionhawk Oh, I was looking for that in the actual opinion.

Tim Stone

The case is specifically about the annotated versions of the laws held in LexisNexis

MBraedley

2:54 PM

Oh, Breyer joined RBG and partially joined Thomas. That makes things a bit more clear.

Tim Stone

I'm unclear what on what basis that tweet describes it as a mostly 7-2 decision, skimming the dissents

Unionhawk

Yeah that looks 5-4 to me

Tim Stone

What's particularly confusing is that the dissents go to great lengths to say that the annotations aren't law but I thought that was the impetus of the case, that the annotated version is the "official version" of the laws and while it's bullshit the annotations should carry any weight they do in practice

But I don't know if that's actually true or not

Unionhawk

I'm not reading any more of that thomas dissent

jesus christ

Tim Stone

lol

> As the majority tacitly concedes, a person seeking information about changes in Georgia statutory law can find that information by consulting the original source for the change in the law’s status—the court decisions themselves

Thomas with the "Have you considered reading every court decision ever published by Georgia courts?"

> Man this "Class of 2020" apparel trademark is fucking bleak

Other rulings today, 8-ish to 1 opinion that the government must fork over cash to the healthcare industry in line with ACA promises

Which taps head Can't fork over the money if you disband the industry, consider this folks

Unionhawk

3:11 PM

lol

what was the opinion, "yes, you have to do what the law was written and intended to do"?

Stormblessed

here's Ginsburg's dissent

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk Yeah, pretty much

Alito dissents but I didn't bother reading why

Stormblessed

@TimStone no he just joined Thomas

the Ginsburg opinion is weird

Tim Stone

We're talking about a different case now

Stormblessed

it makes a distinction between judges' and annotations and legislators'

@TimStone oh which?

Nzall

3:14 PM

4 mins ago, by Tim Stone

Other rulings today, 8-ish to 1 opinion that the government must fork over cash to the healthcare industry in line with ACA promises

Tim Stone

There was also a per curiam decision in a challenge against NYC gun law since the city updated the law in the interim that essentially gave the petitioners what they asked for and now they're like "BUT STILL!" and SCOTUS just shrugs and is like "Guess we'll see you later idk"

Wipqozn

@TimStone When I hear about stuff like this, all I can think of is this Mitchell and Webb sketch.

Unionhawk

@TimStone Since this is a regional health insurer, they have a google maps review page

I'm really glad that the law is that we have to give companies that suck that badly money in exchange for a promise to not be awful :)

$6,000 deductible get the fuck out of here

Wipqozn

@Unionhawk oh, by healthcare industry you mean insurance companies. I thought it meant hospitals.

Your healthcare system is confusing

Unionhawk

Yeah that should say health insurance industry

health finance vs healthcare

Wipqozn

3:20 PM

I blame ronald reagan

also I mixed up Reagan and Nixon

Unionhawk

the government has no interest in, for example, helping rural hospitals, or, stopping companies from buying up clinics and closing them to get people to come to their central hospital instead

Wipqozn

but really I just picked the first name that popped into my head

@Unionhawk You guys really need a non-shitty healthcare system

Unionhawk

Yeah

Wipqozn

Don't worry, I'm sure Biden will do absolutely nothing about it, and Trump will just make it worse.

Maybe in 10 years when AOC can run it'll get better.

Unionhawk

Don't worry though, we got some real inspiring stuff in the pipe, like letting people who are 60+ get standard medicare (which currently is not great!)

and letting others buy standard medicare (which again is not great!)

if you like your plan, you can keep it, but if you don't then don't worry I'm doing universal coverage

actually I don't think that's true either but I forget the details

the point is, whenever anyone talks about "I want universal coverage but if you like your private plan that's cool too" consider: 1) what's wrong with your public option such that I'd ever want to stick with the insurance industry, 2) wait universal coverage?

Tim Stone

3:43 PM

> Schumer to introduce "no PR Act"' to stop Trump from placing name on stimulus checks

I hate them

Like on the one hand absolutely screw that guy but on the other hand uhh buddy

If you received the direct deposit you already got a letter from the President patting himself on the back

Unionhawk

useless lol

You guys could be countering this "reopen the economy" shit with a basic income but you won't because ultimately you agree

Stormblessed

3:56 PM

@TimStone I mean if they could do that very fast by unanimous consent that’d be fine but this will take forever to get through

Tim Stone

> This is a useful way to look at data when you are trying to demonstrate change over time

ಠ_ಠ

MBraedley

@TimStone This seems like "Let's solve the delay in getting cheques out the door by introducing more delay." While I think having Trump's signature on them was stupid and unnecessary, this is stupider and unnecessaryier.

Tim Stone

Playing Candyland on my mortality chart

Unionhawk

MBraedley

@TimStone WTF is this even?

Tim Stone

4:04 PM

@MBraedley Indeed! Especially when you could just go out there and say "Wow the President is a self-congratulating asshole" for free and immediately!

@Unionhawk lol

@MBraedley I think my kindergartener made it

lol I love that they recycled the argument but swapped out people for smaller governments

Stormblessed

@TimStone just do parametric lol

and if it’s on a screen you can just have a time slider

If it’s only one variable + time you can just do two dimensional

MBraedley

5:05 PM

Looks like Nova Scotia cases have peaked. cc @Wipqozn

Private Pansy

@MBraedley Usual disclaimer that case number can vary due to a number of causes, eg. running out of testing capacity

MBraedley

And that chart is wrong, BTW

Private Pansy

That's what's happening in Singapore at least - they've shifted testing from suspected cases since all suspected cases are just assumed to have the virus and immediately quarantined

MBraedley

That's a better chart (including total cases)

@PrivatePansy Testing yesterday was down ~20% compared to the daily average for the past 3 or so weeks, but it's been pretty consistent.

Actually, nevermind, testing has gone down a bit.

Nzall

5:31 PM

@PrivatePansy It's similar in Belgium. Our numbers for deaths are inflated because we assume that everyone who dies while having symptoms died of COVID, even if they haven't been tested

So in effect, we overcount. Our confirmed death rate is about half that of the one we report as our core number

PLUS

we sometimes get delayed numbers from nursing homes

so when several report numbers for multiple days on the same day, it's a spike

Wipqozn

Ford unveils roadmap for 're-opening' Ontario as number of COVID-19 patients in ICUs drops cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/…

@MBraedley Excellent. Time to throw a huge city wide party. Let's all cram onto citadel hill and the metro cetnre.

Also I guess Ford was calling anti-lockdown protesters insane

when you make Ford look rational, that should be a huge wake up call.

> According to the province, the stages are as follows:

> Stage 1: Open select workplaces and allow some small gatherings.
> Stage 2: Open more workplaces and outdoor spaces, and allow some larger gatherings.
> Stage 3: Further relax restrictions on public gatherings and open all work places "responsibly."

> Each stage will last at least two to four weeks, at which point Ontario chief medical officer of health will be able to tighten certain restrictions, extend the stage or advise that the province can move into the next phase.

> Dr. David Williams, Ontario's chief medical officer health, said last week that the province would need to see fewer than 200 new cases daily for an extended stretch before relaxing COVID-19 emergency measures would be feasible.

Martin Sleziak

7:01 PM

Only now I've read that Louis C.K. has a new special out. WP: Sincerely Louis C.K.

Jolenealaska

7:59 PM

We may have a vaccine by September! Go Oxford! Go Go Go!

New York Times reports

The vaccine is way ahead of the game on safety testing and was 100% effective when given to monkeys (6 subjects) before being dosed with an amount of virus that had made every monkey sick that wasn't vaccinated.

How long has it been since something positive has been posted in here?

Wipqozn

@Jolenealaska 2 hours, but good news has been rare here lately

Stormblessed

8:16 PM

@Jolenealaska that Supreme Court ruling that Georgia can’t copyright its annotated code was good

Jolenealaska

8:37 PM

@Stormblessed I'll look up for it.

Jolenealaska

10:31 PM

> The medical director of a New York emergency department that has treated coronavirus patients died by suicide on Sunday, her father told The New York Times.

Memor-X

11:01 PM

@TimStone US: Nope, we're getting out of this Tornado

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