She lives in Hawaii, and was born in American Samoa, so afaik she's never lived anywhere near Maine. Not that that's a huge number of people to begin with or anything, but surprising given her numbers more generally
People are really trained in school and stuff to think that capitalism is a perfect system and changing it would be a travesty and cause an apocalypse or some shit
Bernie could essentially do the rhetoric of his speech on socialism from a few months ago but not say socialist so much and that would be a great strategy
more “this is what FDR, JFK, etc. wanted”, less socialism
@Stormblessed Which is just kind of wild. The propaganda campaign the powerful have played against "socialism" is just absurdly effectively. The US population has basically been brainwashed into hating socialism.
@Wipqozn yup; I’m not very old and I’m from a pretty liberal place, but I still learned about the “great thinkers” who wanted to have extreme capitalism with absolutely no government regulations in the 1700s in school
not critically at all really
I mean the governments in general sucked back in the 18th century but still fuck laissez-faire bs
I could definitely see Biden losing to Trump. The Dems lost because Hilary just represented more of the same, so blue voters didn't even bother coming out. Biden is the exact same
Pete said himself progressive, attacked Biden, and then changed his narrative completely, and dropped out to endorse Biden. See, how effective his donors are
@Tim i think that that was that he realized that he decided that the left wouldn’t like him and then shifted all his positions to try to get votes, too
Old Pete was ok, new Pete sucked
He wanted to attack people in the debates and get attention
I am sympathetic to wanting dramatic change, I jay feel like the attacks on the establishment as a bunch of evil people is not being fair to some really accomplished people
To change stuff we need to not burn down everything else
@Unionhawk because if we make a lot of people think the senate and house democrats are evil, they’ll think they shouldn’t vote for them
@Tim I’m speaking of the establishment dems
if they think “oh it doesn’t matter they’re all neolib shills” and don’t vote for them and we don’t get/keep seats in Maine, Colorado, New H., NC, Alabama, etc. Bernie can’t do anything at all
McConnell would make the whole term not have any legislation pass if the people who really want it to pass keep attacking those whom we need to pass it for us
shrug to be honest the line between socialism and social democracy is kind of blurry and who care, I think the essential sticking point is that it's still compatible with a capitalist health care industry? (not to be confused with the health finance industry)
> The recent decline continues a downward trend for Kenney, who took office with a big majority and an Angus Reid approval rating of 61 per cent last June. The latest poll shows his approval dropping from 54 per cent to 47 per cent.
Maybe Alberta is actually paying attention to the terrible stuff he's doing
> In the latest survey of premiers, only one, Nova Scotia's Stephen McNeil, saw an increase in popularity, while Saskatchewan's Scott Moe and New Brunswick's Blaine Higgs saw no change in their approval ratings.
I find this surprising. That McNeil is up. Maybe more of the province supports his decision about the pulp mill than I thought.
I agree with it, but my job wasn't impacted by it, so easy for me to say.
Also looks like the Alabama Republican primary for Senate will likely go to a runoff that will include Sessions but not Roy Moore so at least things aren't maximally dumb
@Wipqozn It's hard to say, we'll have to look at the turnout but it's not impossible that Biden can drag it across the line…it'll just not make anything better and everything will continue to be bad
Maybe marginally less dumb but still bad
Well correction, it will be dumb in new ways
We'll just be back in W Bush gaffe territory, like we're in a reboot of this show already somehow
I think the most important thing to remember today is that Bloomberg burned a half billion dollars to win American Samoa from Tulsi Gabbard and that's it, that's the post
Further context to this is they're a hospital employee
Although a friend of mine who works in healthcare tells me a lot of healthcare workers are poorly educated on healthcare. so that's fun.
That said, main reason I'm linking this is because of an interesting observation made on the reddit post I found it on:
> There wasn't any hope to begin with. > Here's the reality. A large portion of America can't afford 14 days without pay. They also might not be able to afford to go see a doctor to even tell if they have CV and not the flu. So they go to work with it. All it takes is one person out of the approximately 200m working class citizens in the US to go to a service industry job infected and the chain reaction starts. This shit is here to stay in the US. Only thing to be done now is weather it out and try to prevent the spread to the young, elderly, and immunocompromised.
reply to "I guess we can't stop the spread"
but it's a perfect example of how having most of your population living in poverty, and having shit healthcare system, is just a fucking terrible thing.
It's the same story for a LOT of Canadians working in retail, too, which are the most likely to spread viruses via going to work.
And we even run into similiar healthcare issues, not due to "I can't afford to see a doctor",but just due to underfunding resulting it in taking a while to just see the doctor.
@Unionhawk Yup. A buddy of mine was asking me about Biden this morning. I told him that Biden essentially represents "More of the same". So well, he'll be better than Trump, but that's a low bar.
But that "more of the same" is a huge reason as to why Trump got elected... voters just say clinton as "more of the same" but they realy wanted change... so dems just didn't come out to vote.
Yeah, they'll use the exact same tactics against biden. "Ukrain money!"
Basically the thing Trump got impeached for will be used to attack biden
@Unionhawk So obviously sander is your top pick. Who would be your second pick?
BAsically I'm wondering if there's any candidate you like other than sanders. I don't know enough about them to really have an opinion. I mean aside form BLoomberg. But I'm not american so that makes sense.
I know that he dropped out forever ago and nobody probably knows who he is outside of Washington but Inslee was cool because he really actually cares about the climate
Like healthcare currently is fucked up but continuing not focusing on the climate is going to cause such extremely irreversible damage.
hmm
i'm not sure how that is an insurmountable lead
it still could just have been a very good night for Biden
Also, psst, Elizabeth, you should drop out now and throw your support behind Bernie. As much as I want you to be the next president, my second choice is Bernie. I think Joe might be able to beat Trump head to head, but that doesn't account for third party spoilers, which I think would be a bigger factor for Joe than Bernie.
@Yuuki The fact that he made tulsi gabbard sad by winning in the place she was born is enough to excuse the huge waste of money and erosion of democracy tbh
It's good that Bloomberg stepped down. Now, let's hope he upholds his statement from when he first entered that he'll use his fortune to help the Democratic candidate get elected
I'm fairly frustrated at the willful ignorance that many of states Biden is winning in the primary are states that he almost definitely wouldn't win in the general.
@Tim More like overestimating. The Democratic "base" is notoriously fragmented. I could almost guarantee that a significant number would pull away from the party nominee to vote for Bernie if he ran independent. You could see it in this chatroom. The issue is that then an independent Bernie and Democratic Biden would split a left-ish base. This, of course, is ignoring the number of people who just wouldn't vote for Biden in the first place.
This is a yes or no question. If the answer is yes, please explain why. If the answer is no, please explain how come.
Note that I'm not asking whether it would be wise, immoral, stupid or "virtually guaranteeing Trump a victory" only if he has the option (so please leave opinion out).
Ontario has almost entirely backed down on two of the most contentious issues in bargaining with teachers – class sizes and e-learning requirements. toronto.citynews.ca/2020/03/03/…
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> All of us have worked for Elizabeth long enough to know that she isn’t a lifetime politician and doesn’t think like one. She’s going to take time right now to think through the right way to continue this fight. There’s a lot at stake for this country and the millions of people who are falling further and further behind.
@Tim My state primary is next Tuesday, so we will see what happens. And if she does drop out, I'll certainly listen to what she says, but I'll make up my own mind as far as who to vote for in the primary. Obviously for the general I'll vote for whoever is not Trump
This is a yes or no question. If the answer is yes, please explain why. If the answer is no, please explain how come.
Note that I'm not asking whether it would be wise, immoral, stupid or "virtually guaranteeing Trump a victory" only if he has the option (so please leave opinion out).
