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GnomeSlice
GnomeSlice
1:03 AM
 
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
1:18 AM
@GnomeSlice They don't link to the study, but they say it's a survey of medical marijuana patients, so it's not a blind study and it's probably skewed both by self reporting and by the fact that some people who don't have success would stop taking it and would therefore no longer be medical marijuana patients.
Also, note the sources: herb.co referring to a study by Care by Design (cbd.org)
 
GnomeSlice
GnomeSlice
1:55 AM
Heard about him before, cool wartime story
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
2:46 AM
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
3:03 AM
@GnomeSlice i wouldn't be too surprised by this given how people with seizures are helped with cannabis oil
 
Stormblessed
Stormblessed
3:17 AM
 
 
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Memor-X
Memor-X
6:09 AM
 
 
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Nzall
Nzall
9:46 AM
 
Elva
Elva
That is a rather short one article but good :o
Now let's see what happens
 
Nzall
Nzall
@Elva yeah, the decision was literally made like 2 minutes ago
 
Ronan
Ronan
 
Nzall
Nzall
So the BBC hasn't yet had a full article
 
Ronan
Ronan
That's the breaking news feed for it
 
Nzall
Nzall
9:49 AM
Honestly, can't wait to see what the pro-Brexit rags will have to say about this
 
Elva
Elva
There's not a "Even More Supreme Court" is there?
 
Nzall
Nzall
@Elva Nope, Supreme Court is the highest court of law in the UK, apart from laws that involve the EU, which can go to a special EU court for such decisions
 
Elva
Elva
I'm reading the feed for it and lol, this will go well:
> In his latest statement, the prime minister refused to rule out suspending Parliament for a second time, should he lose.
 
fredley
fredley
@Nzall In the strongest possible terms
Supreme court totally pwned him
 
Elva
Elva
10:39 AM
How long was it stopped by the way? Two weeks ish right?
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@fredley Good ol' daily mail
 
Ronan
Ronan
@Elva Legally it never happened, but since the 10th
 
Elva
Elva
Functionally it was stopped! Just not prorogued
And huh, exactly 2 weeks
That is mighty fast, which well, makes sense given the importance and time-bound nature of this
 
Ronan
Ronan
I think, it's a pain to find the articles about the start of it because of all the breaking news
 
Elva
Elva
Yeah...
Court's full article says uuh... it was "prorogued from a date between 9th and 12th September until 14th October" bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49810680
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
11:07 AM
@Nzall you sure? my uncle has just told me there is
 
Nzall
Nzall
Your uncle might remember the time before 2005 when they reorganized the courts
 
Ave
Ave
lol.
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
Judicial Committee of the Privy Council
The Judicial Committee of the Privy Council (JCPC) is the highest court of appeal for certain British territories and Commonwealth countries. Established on 13 August 1833 to hear appeals formerly heard by the King-in-Council, the Privy Council formerly acted as the court of last resort for the entire British Empire (other than for the United Kingdom itself), and continues to act as the highest court of appeal for several independent Commonwealth nations, the Crown Dependencies, and the British Overseas Territories.Formally a statutory committee of Her Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council, the...
yeh i think that's the one my Uncle was talking about
 
Nzall
Nzall
> the Privy Council formerly acted as the court of last resort for the entire British Empire (other than for the United Kingdom itself),
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
looks like it was reduced in 2009 though by the Supreme Court
Elizabeth: Charles, look, i'm trending
Charles: that's very good love
Elizabeth: i wonder why i am *sees tweets*....fucking Boris
 
Nzall
Nzall
11:23 AM
My prediction: Bojo Jojo will soon find himself out of a job, UK parliament will discuss a bill for a confirmatory referendum to see what the British people want and use that as leverage for a 3rd extension to A50, and we'll find that parliament will revoke their invocation of A50
 
Jutschge
Jutschge
11:48 AM
Yay we got elections when I'm in the army.
That means a day off and it still counts as served time :D
 
Nzall
Nzall
12:29 PM
Ugh, I'm arguing in the politics stack with a guy who thinks all grassroot movements, including the one started by Greta Thunberg, are secretly astroturfed
 
Jutschge
Jutschge
@Nzall Protip: Don't get into arguments about politics online
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
@Nzall don't dumb down to their level, just ignore them
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
12:54 PM
nobody has genuine opinions I am very intelligent
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
It's hard to have a genuine opinion when we're all just sock puppets of @fredley
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
thats right
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
The Liberals are promising to push Canada to net-zero emissions by 2050, joining other countries and the European Union that are making the same pledge at the United Nations in New York City this week. cbc.ca/news/politics/…
> The plan, to be announced in full Tuesday as the parties continue their campaigns leading up to next month's federal election, is to set legally-binding, five-year milestones to reach net-zero emissions in 30 years.
> The Liberal Party says the path forward would be based on the advice of scientists, economists and other experts as well as consultations with Canadians, but few details have been provided so far on how the targets would be met.
> Net-zero means some sectors could still emit carbon pollution, but those emissions would be offset by other actions such as planting trees.
> The climate change plan would include bringing in a Just Transition Act to give workers in affected sectors access to training, support and new opportunities to adapt to the transforming economy.
 
Elva
Elva
Good on the last bit, though the name hmmm
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
Greens have the same idea for a transition plan. Not sure on NDP.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
1:07 PM
I'm going to guess probably
it is really cool that everyone is just deciding 2050 is good enough though
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
It's kind of required, provided you don't want to leave people jobless.
 
Nzall
Nzall
I didn't learn from the Greta Thunberg crackpot and am apparently arguing with a different crackpot (2 actually) who think the Mueller report did not find evidence of obstruction of justice
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
reports are that we have until 2030
but you know, 2050 that's probably fine too
:)
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
@Unionhawk I mean they'll all be close enough to death by then anyways
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
gotta look at the cost benefit analysis
if we go more gradually, we'll suffer some irreversible effects, but on the other hand our short term gains will not be as heavily impacted!
it's a win-win
 
Elva
Elva
1:11 PM
Except for all the people that aren't us, but they don't count anyway
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
(meanwhile, since this is relevant)
 
Elva
Elva
I am irrationally peeved at the fact that the text isn't transformed such that it fits the non-straight-on photo
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@Nzall to be fair, conservatives think young leftists are all paid and heavily coached is because they actually pay and heavily coach young activists on the regular
 
Nzall
Nzall
@Unionhawk Except for the fact that there is significant historical evidence that going over a 2 degrees increase compared to the preindustrial era can cause a number of natural processes that naturally release greenhouse gasses to snowball into each other and trigger heatings up to 6 degrees
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@Nzall yeah but have you considered the short and medium term profits though
 
Nzall
Nzall
1:19 PM
@Unionhawk need to add a modifier to the revenue numbers though. Need to divide them by 10 to account for massive loss of human life
 
Elva
Elva
Pssst, have you considered the fact that you're talking to Unionhawk and he's not being serious?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
smh my head this is waht I was saying about environmentalism being a watermelon: red on the inside
freakin communist
 
SaintWacko
SaintWacko
1:38 PM
@BradC I'd like to get a revolver and a lever action
 
Elva
Elva
1:56 PM
 
BradC
BradC
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
 
BradC
BradC
YES, PLEASE MAY WE IMPEACH??
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
"It's our air and we'll do what we want!"
It cuts off at the end so I'm not sure what Biden said as a continuation of that last part but why would you even say that?
"Biden 2020: Elect Me Because I Said So"
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@TimStone "I'm just like the guy who was president when I was VP, but not nearly as eloquent."
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
2:09 PM
@BradC tbh I don't really understand the point in being party leader if you don't want to lead the party
 
BradC
BradC
@TimStone Yes, exactly. I mean, I understand being cautious and deliberate, but come on
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Right? Like put some effort in, there's already pretty significant support and it's extremely annoying that the bulk of the holdouts are likely just doing so because of election reasons
Reassure them and kick things into motion already
How much worse could it possibly get at this point?
@TimStone counts from 1 to 20 Hmmmmmmm
 
BradC
BradC
And I think the whole "need to wait until public opinion supports it" or "wait until we can be sure of a conviction in the Senate" both miss the point (in different ways)
1. The agenda/messaging of the House leader and her caucus can shape public opinion, if done right
 
Nzall
Nzall
@BradC The Nixon impeachment process gained public support as the proceedings continued, and Nixon resigned once it was found that he lost all support from the republican party
 
BradC
BradC
2. Forcing the senate to either vote to remove Trump or vote to explicitly defend his corruption is a dilemma for GOP senators, not a dilemma for Dems
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
2:16 PM
Right, and they're certainly not going to speak against him when there's absolutely no reason for them to. Most if not all will probably not do so even when there is, but I don't see a point in not testing it
Like if you're just going to let him and his lackeys get away with everything it's not really a convincing stump speech for the general election anyway
No one except checks notes Bret Stephens will wake up the next day if the Senate fails to convict and go "Ah, well, I guess everything Trump has done is actually fine after all" if they didn't already think that
Ah cool, cool
Wonder if that dog whistle sounds the same in every language
 
BradC
BradC
@TimStone Exactly. GOP has been doing their absolute best to ignore or "no comment" anything Trump does; they won't be able to do that in an impeachment vote
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Entirety of Southeast Asia stares into the camera
lmfao, I'm sure it'll go great this time
 
BradC
BradC
2:34 PM
> Throughout all modern history, when we humans see a problem coming from far away, we have a 100% success rate in solving it. Climate change is no different.
Meaning, what, we haven't yet blundered ourselves into extinction, so don't worry! We'll be fine!
> If you are worried about rising sea levels, don’t be. The smartest and richest people in the world are still buying property on the beach. They don’t see the problem. And if sea levels do rise, it will happen slowly enough for people to adjust.
 
Elva
Elva
facedesks
Oooh scott adams of dilbert fame? Yeaaaaaah that fits
 
BradC
BradC
yep
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
scott adams has been stupid for a long time yeah
 
Elva
Elva
He's just pretty consistently wrong on things IIRC
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
He is right that we need to be considering nuclear technologies, but we don't need to bet the bank on nuclear solving all our problems, because it won't.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
2:44 PM
lol, she literally just pops open a book, I can't make out what it is
Wilbur Ross also keeps falling asleep
 
BradC
BradC
Subtitle is a bit less click-baity: "Mislabeling what the president has done could make impeachment more difficult to achieve."
> If what Trump is accused of doing is true, it is a kind of corrupt conduct that the criminal system is not equipped to handle. Labeling his behavior with criminal terms such as bribery and extortion not only misunderstands the statutory language, it gives Trump and his supporters ammunition with which to defend themselves, making impeachment—the proper constitutional remedy for presidential corruption—harder to achieve.
> What Trump is alleged to have done is not a garden variety crime; it’s worse. It involved misusing $250 million in aid appropriated by Congress for his benefit—the kind of gross misconduct that easily clears the bar of high crimes and misdemeanors set by the Constitution when impeaching a president. Which means the best way to hold Trump accountable for that misconduct isn’t a criminal trial; it’s for Congress to impeach him.
Good article, and I think illustrates one of the problems with how the Mueller investigation was viewed/discussed
In a similar way, I think it is far more useful to say that Trump has "betrayed the country for his own benefit" rather than try to say he "committed treason" or something that could easily be factually rebuffed
Even if, at least from a rhetorical perspective, I wouldn't strongly disagree
 
Memor-X
Memor-X
3:07 PM
@TimStone when can Brazil get rid of him?
otherwise can we launch him into the sun the burning amazon?
 
 
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Tim Stone
Tim Stone
4:18 PM
Rep. John Lewis has announced that he believes impeachment proceedings should begin immediately on the House floor just now
^ This is insane, the tl;dr there is that because he'd need to know if he was on the list for the case, and the list is secret, he can't have a case to get himself off the list
 
puzzlepiece87
puzzlepiece87
4:33 PM
@TimStone Agreed, our security industry has been completely out of control for decades.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Really hard to understand the function here like confirming if someone was on the list would somehow make them be even more brazen in doing terrorism
Oh of course she bit it in the testicles
I'm not sure why I didn't see that coming in this, the year 2019 Eternal 2016
 
BradC
BradC
Aaaaand you thought it couldn't get worse:
So... either indefinite detainment, or immediate, no-hearing deportment back into either Mexico or their home country
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
4:57 PM
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
5:19 PM
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
 
BradC
BradC
@TimStone So... not just a letter affirming the imminent beginning of talks that could lead to the creation of a subcommittee to consider whether to open an investigation that might or might not lead to a vote concerning whether we ought to draft articles of impeachment that may eventually be allowed to be presented back to the main committee who can then carefully debate whether to allow it to be voted upon by the House?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
5:41 PM
I mean I'm sure they'll mess it up somehow
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
6:30 PM
story pending: Google contract workers in Pittsburgh have voted to unionize with United Steelworkers
tktktk
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@Unionhawk umm, I get that United Steelworkers is (was) big in Pittsburg, but I'm not sure that's the best union to represent the interests of Google contractors.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
@MBraedley "is" is right here, and I mean, that's really the main argument in favor of choosing USW
And it's not terrifically unprecedented for the big business unions to step outside their named industry, UAW represents graduate assistants in many universities for example
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
But the number of unionized steelworkers surely has declined in the past 2 or 3 decades
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
They're headquartered in pittsburgh and membership seems steady from what I can tell, though that may be in part due to some mergers as well
I don't disagree that CWA or something like that may have more intimate knowledge, but honestly, at the end of the day the folks in the shop are the ones with that particular subject matter expertise, joining up with a business union is just a way to gain access to some additional resources
(I'd have to look but I believe USW also does Pittsburgh graduate assistants)
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
My opinion is perhaps coloured by the fact that few if any unions in Canada represent more than a single (sometimes broad) industry.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
6:41 PM
Yeah USW in particular has merged so many times, so their full name is "United Steel, Paper and Forestry, Rubber, Manufacturing, Energy, Allied Industrial and Service Workers International Union"
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
James Comey thinks checks notes the American people would be let off the hook if Trump was impeached and buddy, what
 
MBraedley
MBraedley
@TimStone That sentence doesn't even make sense.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
former director of the fbi welcome to the resistance
 
BradC
BradC
@TimStone If he means what I think he does: "The American people voted in this asshole, they should deal with the consequences!"
Then.... nah, man
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
7:01 PM
 
user15026
7:55 PM
 
user15026
(I am very glad I didn't end up interviewing with them, now...)
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
BBC News - Democrats 'to launch Trump impeachment inquiry'
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49814927
For real this time?
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
/shrug
I'll believe it when I see it
 
Wipqozn
Wipqozn
Yes. I feel like they've said this before.
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
we're exiting "this afternoon" pretty soon here though
when is it legally "evening", 5?
tick tock, sources
 
BradC
BradC
8:11 PM
@Unionhawk 4:59 pm
...Honolulu standard time
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
no, for the purposes of analyzing if the sources were slightly wrong or not we will be using DC time
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
8:26 PM
@Unionhawk all right, from above, filling in this:
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
8:38 PM
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
8:49 PM
@Unionhawk It's okay we're now getting word that checks notes Marianne Williamson is calling for an impeachment inquiry
 
Unionhawk
Unionhawk
🔮🔮🔮
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
The big boy President has changed his schedule to have Executive Time now
"so basically just uhh do what you're already doing but now I'm gonna give a big thumbs up. Maybe even do that clap"
Very good and smart for the director to have stood up for him several hours ago against the claims of 20 different women
 

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