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1:53 AM
yes, that is why Kurdish people were throwing potatos at the Military as they left and why Erdogan is more or less committing an act of genocide , because you both have such a great relationship with them
not sure if that was in response to this but i did hear someone in the GOP saying that if they impeach Trump over the Ukraine call then they have to admit that President Zelensky is a lair who said he wasn't pressured, which can easily be pointed out that no world leader is going to ever admit they were pressured by another foreign power
you probably don't need to click on the link to know why he wants to, but i'll quote anyway
> President Trump has reportedly been threatening to fire acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney for weeks over recent missteps amid the House’s impeachment investigation.
 
 
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3:32 AM
> White House Advisor Stephen Miller Just Got Outed for Explicit White Supremacists E-mails
Oh, "outed".
Misread that as "ousted".
never mind, carry on, business as usual
 
3:45 AM
*googles name*
> Senior Trump adviser Stephen Miller shaped the 2016 election coverage of the hard right-wing website Breitbart......
yeh enough said
 
4:17 AM
breaking news stephen miller is a white supremacist
 
 
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2:59 PM
Quick, someone show him another video, so that's not the last one Trump saw!
 
@TimStone Half a million per? What kind of salaries are they pulling?
 
Note that it's the four year price tag, but yeah, at ~$125k/year
There's likely some "administrative overhead" and overtime pay included in that number
 
3:14 PM
@TimStone To be fair, some of our local cops are super highly paid.
I think a five year constable pulls $90k+?
 
Yeah, New York is obviously not a cheap place to be either
 
But the majority of the city budget goes towards that; their union got some super good deals.
 
But it does seem extremely excessive relative to the thing they're there for!
 
So that guy who had 850 guns didn't actually kill himself, and the cops gave him back all his guns
Great. I love knowing that house exists in my city
 
Looks like the store is overwhelmed at the moment, but I need me one of these mugs:
 
3:16 PM
And, somehow, pension got indexed to their five highest earning years. So, they rig it so they pull insane amounts of overtime for several years right before retirement.
 
 
Way too many reaction/analysis pieces on the impeachment hearings out there, but this one seems to (in my opinion) capture the key angle:
 
@BradC Hard to really feel sorry for them, though.
 
@Frank Yeah, no sympathy from me.
 
3:27 PM
The problem is going to be breaking away enough of the GOP in the Senate to push it through.
Without that, the whole process is a grand play.
 
> If it looked like House Republicans were throwing a lot of mud at the wall to see what might stick during the first day of public impeachment hearings, that’s because they had settled into a strategy many defense attorneys adopt when the prosecution has the goods on their client—confuse the issues and distract the audience from the evidence at hand.
@Frank Not sure what you mean by "grand play" exactly; that it isn't worth doing if the Senate won't vote to remove?
If so, I both agree and disagree: I think there is strategic advantage in putting GOP senators in the impossible position of either voting against the Trump base or voting to allow obvious corruption
 
@BradC It's a lot of pomp and circumstance, and nothing will change.
None of this is going to break anyone away from Trump's base; he can do no wrong for them.
Just hoping that enough of the Republicans in the Senate retain enough of their conscience and morality to vote to impeach.
 
@Frank Hard to predict how it will all play out, but even with a Senate acquittal, I actually think "everything goes back to (what we previously endured as) normal" is lower on the list of possibilities
 
@BradC How so?
Trump will see that acquittal as evidence that his antics are untouchable.
And it'll just get worse.
 
@Frank Redoubling of passion among voters on the left; to not only defeat Trump but to defeat the GOP senators that kept him in power, is one (strong) possibility
@Frank I agree that Trump will take it as a green light. He already has, frankly (the Ukraine call was 1 day after the Mueller hearing)
I think Trump's own behavior is one of the biggest wildcards; what will he do when the trial gets to the Senate? How blatantly will he continue to obstruct?
 
3:37 PM
@BradC That'll depend on just how honest the hearing is on the articles of impeachment, I'm guessing.
The house will murder him. The senate may not (okay, will not) see it the same way, and try to slant things as being, "not that bad".
 
Clearly I'm hoping for removal as well, but I've long since given up on Republicans finding their spine
@Frank But the House is the prosecution in the Senate trial
 
@BradC Oh, it's not a completely separate trial?
 
So yeah, they'll have to live within the rules the Senate makes, but they should still have an opportunity to present their case
 
I thought each section debated it among themselves.
 
Nope, let me find the clause...
> In impeachment proceedings, the House of Representatives charges an official of the federal government by approving, by majority vote, articles of impeachment. A committee of representatives, called “managers,” acts as prosecutors before the Senate. The Senate sits as a High Court of Impeachment in which senators consider evidence, hear witnesses, and vote to acquit or convict the impeached official.
 
3:48 PM
@BradC With an impartial audience, I think it's a given that Trump would be impeached.
I wonder how many of the GOP have already made up their minds, and will ignore all evidence?
 
> If the House votes to impeach, managers (typically referred to as "House managers", with a "lead House manager") are selected to present the case to the Senate. Recently, managers have been selected by resolution, while historically the House would occasionally elect the managers or pass a resolution allowing the appointment of managers at the discretion of the Speaker. These managers are roughly the equivalent of the prosecution or district attorney in a standard criminal trial.
@Frank As many as believe they can get away with it. Which will be influenced, to a large degree, but public opinion
 
An interesting system. I'm not sure we have the equivalent in Canada.
 
(Which is why the House is doing public hearings now, when they already have more than enough to vote on articles of impeachment)
 
@BradC Don't forget those that will retire at the end of their term.
 
@Frank Right, but even then its hard to say. Does retiring mean they necessarily get a conscience and do the right thing? Or does it mean they do what they must to keep their cred for whatever right-wing think tank they hope to earn millions from after leaving office?
 
3:56 PM
Which one of them doesn't already have millions?
 
Jeff Flake, upon announcing his retirement, was very slightly more likely to send out a mildly critical tweet, but he never voted against any Trump proposal.
 
@BradC Retiring means they don't need to hold their tongue in order to retain their voters who want Trump to stay in power
So it means they have a slightly greater tendency to vote for the good of the nation, rather than for the good of their party
 
@Nzall Hypothetically speaking, you might be correct. But I'll believe it when I see it. And we haven't seen it thus far, even in those who have already announced they aren't re-running.
 
I'd see it as more a way to double-down on their personal beliefs, without needing to fear the consequences.
 
The only Republican to (in my opinion) take a principled stand after seeing the incriminating evidence in the Mueller report (Justin Amash), was immediately kicked out of the GOP
 
4:00 PM
Which my cynical side says is more about enriching themselves and their buddies than the country.
 
like, within a week
 
4:16 PM
@Unionhawk Look, I thought it was news because I misread it as "ousted".
Got my hopes up.
 
And the headlines thought it was news because they've been giving him the benefit of the doubt the whole time
 
@Unionhawk Libel and slander are everpresent worries for the media.
 
Truth and opinion are the two pretty ironclad defenses though
 
@Unionhawk After you pay lawyers to defend you, sure.
 
Ash
@TimStone oh wow, I thought the chelation crap for autism was bad and now this dear Lord
 
4:26 PM
Yeah, people's brains are so broken :|
 
@Frank the new york times and friends almost definitely have inside counsel
 
@Unionhawk Good point. I hadn't considered that angle.
 
Like I understand being averse to that risk
But also like, come on
The man may as well have been wearing a neon sign
 
Let's not forget the part where Stephen Miller used to be Jeff Sessions' aide and just sent shit like that directly to members of the media
"The Senator would like to do racisms, please see this supporting evidence"
We live in hell
 
4:44 PM
@TimStone Must be a day that ends in Y... fucking christ.
 
> "If the president has something that is exculpatory -- Mr. President, that means you have anything that shows your innocence -- then he should make that known ... so far we haven't see that."
 
4:57 PM
Ouch
I wonder if Trump is smart enough to catch that.
 
5:27 PM
Sounds like six injured, three of which are in critical condition
 
So no deaths yet?
 
@TimStone why did I look at the comments?
How the hell does anyone still think Climate change isn't a thing?
 
Everything is just really, really bad
 
@Wipqozn Narrow view of the world.
 
5:33 PM
impeachment, tsunami, school shooting, DACA hanging by a thread, wildfires, polar vortexes wandering where they don't belong... What's not to love?
 
Some of it is, "We don't do enough to make a difference, so let someone else deal with it", some of it is, "It ain't a problem here, so therefore, doesn't exist."
 
 
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Ash
Is this the dude who wouldn't let it go
 
@Ash He couldn't hold it back anymore.
Turned away and slammed the door.
 
@TimStone yeah last I saw 79/120 counties were like "yeah we recanvassed and found exactly the same result"
I still don't know what recanvas means
 
@Unionhawk Re-canvasing is just making sure the votes were submitted correctly from each precinct
Without re-counting ballots
Like "check your totals and make sure you actually sent us the correct values"
(its a specific provision in KY law, that's not a universal use of the term)
 
"hey we know that you probably just copy pasted the value out of the automated system and there's no real reason why it should have changed, but"
conspicuously hands the county board of elections chair a $5 bill are you sure andy won
oh you are still ok
 
7:40 PM
Yep. Just makes sure they didn't paste the same value twice or something weird
 
8:21 PM
stack exchange network was down for a minute there
Looks ok now
 
9:09 PM
> The Senate voted Thursday to make Steven Menashi a lifetime federal judge, despite his inflammatory writings about women’s rights and diversity, his refusal to answer senators’ questions and his role in devising an illegal Education Department effort to deny debt relief to students cheated by for-profit colleges.
 
@BradC It's heartwarming that all of the Republicans are willing to chip in so Susan Collins can try to avoid being a complete hypocrite while still being a complete hypocrite.
 
@BradC wtf
 
> The Ohio House on Wednesday passed the "Student Religious Liberties Act." Under the law, students can't be penalized if their work is scientifically wrong as long as the reasoning is because of their religious beliefs.
Only one house of 2, so not passed into law yet
 
@BradC That's a misinterpretation of the law
> The Ohio law everyone is talking about does not allow religious students to give inaccurate answers on tests or homework.

You just can't dock points if some express hostility or affinity to a religious belief.
 
@Nzall oh
 
> So if a Creationist writes down that the world is 6,000 years old, that runs counter to the pedagogical concerns of a geology class under ordinary standards. Points docked.

If he correctly writes the age, but notes his religious concerns, no points docked.

Simple enough.
Question is: how many students are actually writing down religious concerns on tests, without letting those concerns seep through into their response?
 
9:37 PM
@Nzall Eh, not sure those in charge of enforcing it would split hairs quite that finely if eventually enacted.
@Nzall Right; viewed one way, its a bad bill. Viewed the other way, its an unnecessary bill
 

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