@GodEmperorDune who's fake information is he complaining about there? Obama's or his own?

@Memor-X his own

He's complaining that the media didn't tell everyone we were going to go to war with North Korea, which as far as anyone else is aware we weren't, so like, yeah

I mean I'm sure it pays dividends for someone

@TimStone i recall reading an article about the idea of taking Trump down for treason through the russain probe and i read that it can only be done if you are in war time with that country and read that technically the war with North Korea never ended?

@TimStone and according to fox news, trump is america, so...

I was thinking Kushner himself in this case

not sure of the timeframe but if Trump signed this after Kanye's visit, would be a funny coincidence that he did his kiss assing just before

That's partly why he was there

(for the signing)

@Ash you took the words out of my mouth

in not crap news

I'd vote to keep that as the standard meeting invite

Yeah, that's…wow

Apparently there is still ongoing infiltration operations at metro DC DSA

And by that I mean apparently some dude walked in to the open to the public convention and took pictures of the all gender bathroom signs and sat through five hours of absolutely excruciating Roberts rules work

lol I saw

Congrats dude you obtained public documents and all you had to do was waste an entire Sunday

@TimStone lol, poor Melania

fake response:

> he probably did poison the Skripals, but he also probably didn't. there's other people who could have poisoned them, like china or the democrats

> The Speech That Saved Teddy Roosevelt’s Life

because you know, every time he said someone he like probably did something bad he also then points out a bunch of other people who probably did it too

(not new-news in any sense, but)

> When someone shouted, “Fake!” Roosevelt stepped forward to show the crowd his shirt and the bullet holes in the manuscript

The first* fake news asshole (*okay probably not, but lmfao)

"I've just been shot" "Pssh no you haven't" "…My dude, look"

@Unionhawk Next he'll realised he learned something and then claim it was a brainwashing exercise

@Unionhawk i take pictures of all gender bathroom signs because i think they are great

> Roosevelt warned that if government neglected the well-being of all its citizens, violence of the sort that had just befallen him would become commonplace. “The poor man as such will be swayed by his sense of injury against the men who try to hold what they have improperly won” and “the most awful passions will be let loose.”

It's important that absolutely no aspect of history be considered for improving the present

Oh my goodness, satan showing up on the lord's day smh

@TimStone lolwtf

how many of these trump people do we need to hear from?

Well having profiled every white conservative in the country apparently they had to mix things up a bit

@GodEmperorDune all of them?

I can certainly see people not wanting to side with Democrats but I feel like if you're jumping on board the Trump Train at this point as a PoC it's because you feel like you got yours? So not sure how much benefit there is to hearing about that perspective!

(like there wasn't in hearing about the white folk who voted for Trump who don't care about anything he's done because they weren't paying attention to begin with)

🤷

@TimStone how is this not prevented by conflict of interest rules?

I think the rules just say "Win win win no matter what"

> As the company was bleeding cash and selling off assets in recent years, federal regulators required Mr. Lampert to inject cash into the pension plan.

Heh, bet he was pissed about that though

"But I don't wannnnna"

stares straight into the camera

> The company’s board came to be dominated by other wealthy investors, including Steven Mnuchin, the current Treasury secretary who had been Mr. Lampert’s roommate at Yale

lol, it's amazing how much stuff could be caught if anyone bothered to have someone check but they're just like "Naaah ship it"

Uhhh so I take it today is already bad

But hey, on the plus side, the Saudis say they definitely didn't do exactly what they obviously did

@TimStone Cleaner: just here to clean some blood by orders of the king. totally unrelated to the missing journalist

"I always carry five industrial sized containers of bleach with me, for those hard to get stains"

@TimStone It doesn't matter anyway

We'll go through this dance for a bit, but then everyone is going to go back to "oh MBS is such a cool guy"

the only reason this is a story at all is because the saudis decided it was a good idea to kill the one kind of person their top defenders actually care about, a journalist

in a country that's more of a surveillance state than the united states

which, you know, as it turns out it was I guess because everyone is just going to accept the shaggy defense here

Now's a good time to re-remember that Saudi Arabia wants to dig a huge trench on its border with Qatar and fill it with nuclear waste, perhaps the single most comic-super-villianesque act of state ever

@TimStone In light of having apparently taken a DNA test, Warren is now reminding Trump he promised to donate $1 million to charity if she did and it showed probable Native American ancestry so I guess this will somehow end up being this week's news cycle I'm sorry everyone I don't make the news I just share it

@TimStone i seem to recall that happening on Captain Planet and it was out in a desert

@TimStone Oh that must mean everything is totally fine

That said I am happy Trump has said killing a journalist is bad, because I was really afraid he was going to praise it with some comment about "Fake Liberal Media"

like not so directly, but well, he's made it pretty damn clear what he thinks of reporters...

@TimStone We've actually already advanced to the moving of the goal posts part of the cycle, in which the assumed percentage of ancestry is "insufficient" (which like, this is all stupid, stop trivializing native folk, but still)

attempting to appease the phrenology right to own the libs

dumb

Yeah it's very bad and she definitely should not have done this

There is literally no upside

Trump won't pay the $1 million, he can't be owned unless you make rich people not want to pay any attention to him, which can't happen while he's president

It is all very bad and pointless

Basically

chef's kiss

It works every time

Someone passed along the new narrative but I assume he didn't fully understand and now thinks completely random people entered the consulate to kill Khashoggi

Saudi Arabia aside, I am repressing some anger towards my fellow Asian-Americans for allowing themselves to be so easily turned against other minorities by this Harvard admissions case.

They're under this some weird delusion that getting rid of affirmative action will mean more Asian-Americans getting into prestigious colleges because we're collectively better students.

No, the only thing that getting rid of affirmative action will do is that all minority admissions will go down and admissions for white applicants will go up.

I'm trying to find information on the organization leading this case. I know the founder/leader is Edward Blum and I would also hazard a guess that there's not very good minority representation on the board of Students for Fair Admissions.

It's just him

He co-opted some Asian-American students to push through his anti-affirmative action agenda

It's like his whole gig

Yeah, I'm annoyed at how easily it seems that Asian-Americans will turn on their fellow minorities.

Especially if they actually think about it, it won't really help them/us.

Hunt down any publication of theirs and add quotes around "Fair"

you see, "equity" is just code for "racism against white people", which is a real thing that can happen

@TimStone You'd think Asians would recognize when white people are taking advantage of us for their own gain.

tbf turning folks is a common tool of white power structures and I'm sure he sold the bit convincingly

It's not good, but if you're made to believe you're being wronged it can be hard to look past that

These E-Trade ads are so weird.

"You like <co-worker>, but you'd like <co-worker> more if you made more money than them."

excuse me wtf?

They always start with good anti-capitalist analysis like "the harder you work, the better vacation, YOUR BOSS, will go on" but then propose their solution of "just invest your extra money"

it's a strange dynamic

"don't get mad" but y not tho

@Unionhawk I mean, don't get mad at your co-worker, yeah.

Oh God

I can't even look at it

@Memor-X No no, you have a fundamental misunderstanding so your confusion is natural, his supporters are only horrified that the federal government is selling their personal information if the libs do it

@fredley lmfao, I saw this on Twitter but I didn't understand where it came from

Just amazing

It does seem like the artist has done this for at least one previous president.

But did Obama have his displayed in the White House?

@GodEmperorDune That robot is nearly ready to take his revenge on the guy who pushed him down and knocked the boxes out of his hands.

I'd suspect not, but. I mean, and honestly I suppose we really shouldn't make fun of some random artist for doing their thing, it's not even specifically Trump worship or anything

I think Teddy would suplex him into the table though, just for fun

@TimStone The picture is the picture, I don't think it's an objectively great picture, but meh. The decision to hang it though...

Indeed

@TimStone Booooo try harder. Not even mentioning GDP growth and unemployment rate? I'm not saying those are end all be all measures, but CFPB, seriously? Like any average citizen even knows wtf that is xD

UVA claims to have waived all outstanding medical bills related to the events of august 11 and 12 2017

which if true would be great news for DSA national's absolute failure to distribute funds

@TimStone Have been in disbelief since learning about this in high school that he didn't go on to win that race

@TimStone i mean it conflates the "lincoln was a republican" meme

and expands it to many other republicans who would probably start a fight with trump

nixon would be right at home though

i was mildly surprised that darrell issa was involved, it struck me as more of a nunes move

more like darrell isn'ta

n-hue-nes

> refused to implement

> voters approved

sick representation

it happens all over

DC council just repealed initiative 77

paul lepage is a piece of work though

good democracy

just vote

and things will be good

:)

I remember in school being taught that democracy is the ultimate form of government and anything other than that is inferior in some way.

I may have been deceived.

yeah ultimate as in it has never been realized

so as in last

idk

Well, when your democracy isn't being democratic...

that sounded 20% smarter in my head

Or your republic isn't being republican.

I don't really have a proposal for something that would be better.

@InvaderSkoodge we are all waiting for democracy to assume its ultimate form

Any government could probably be corrupted.

i mean how do you design a voluntary system that doesn't assume all the participants will be working in good faith?

that famous thing that democracies do, repeal direct referendums by representative vote, and have two legislative bodies that somehow both manage to fail to be represented in any real proportional manner to the number of votes recieved

Democracy is the worst form of government. Except for all the others that have been tried

@SaintWacko I dunno, complete anarchy due to lack of humans seems to work pretty well.

Perhaps better than democracy.

@Yuuki Well, yes

Really, involving human greed in any form of government is what breaks it

ummmmm why is the king of sparta giving a press briefing at the Defense dept instead of an actual public official?

... Gerard Butler?

@Yuuki yes

@GodEmperorDune Whuh?

The previews for that movie, lol

When your government is involved with a movie's press junket tour.

:/

the pentagon is involved with every film that depicts the military lol

when your movie is barely concealed military recruitment propaganda

@Unionhawk Eh, there's a difference between the Army making sure all of Michael Bay's movies make the armed forces look good and literally doing movie press releases from the Pentagon.

I mean this movie is basically like a plot from C&C Red Alert or something

@TimStone damn, i gotta watch it now

also my man lookin like chris hardwick

tbh

The Russian Defense Minister kidnaps the Russia President

@TimStone this can't be c&C Red Alert without stalin and time machines, tho

Gerard Butler already has his facial hair back so I assume he has one

(they obviously stopped filming a long time ago I know don't @ me)

Also random Common, lol

wtf is this, a SAM site that fires torpedos that arc into the water? a SAMAW site?

See I told you it's Red Alert, everything is Extremely Extra

yeah this movie is going to be terrible but i will probably watch it on netflix eventually anyway

Not sure I'm following. So they send in some kind of spec ops team to save the Russian President and the submarine's supposed to provide some kind of support?

@Yuuki i think the submarine is part of the spec ops team

The submarine is delivering the team, covertly by traveling under the polar ice

As far as I can gather

I think perhaps the actual ops part comes a bit after the sub is already deployed, idk

EXPLOSIONS

and at some point they were like "underwater fights are boring, what if we made it so that the underwater fights had both aerial and on land explosions too?"

not sure if they are trying to do a political message of "russian president is actually good" intentionally or just accidentally

poor old vlad getting pushed around by "rogue elements"

Hmm, filming started in July 2016

Also it's based on a novel!

amazon.com/Firing-Point-George-Wallace/dp/0451237390

> “The plot unfolds like a summer blockbuster.”—Publishers Weekly

Ah, well

@GodEmperorDune Same

lmao: :"In The Movie of Tom Clancy's The Sum of All Fears: When the time came to film the nuclear detonation scene, in which the Presidential motorcade is severely damaged by the blast, the director used real military personnel that were trained specifically for that situation. All he had to do was point to the overturned limo and tell them "The President is in that car!""

deviating, but, lmao at that example from tvtropes/Backed by the Pentagon

Wait, we have people who are trained to rescue the president from an overturned limo following a nuclear explosion which rolls it off the road?

I mean I assume it's not quite that extremely specific

or hope anyway

@TimStone Okay, I'll watch it

That scene's such a stark reminder that You're Not Important, heh. I know they couldn't evacuate the stadium in any meaningful way but they just rush him out and everyone's sitting around like 🤷 and then the nuke goes off

Although having that mini-sub mounted on top of the submarine would make it so much louder

@TimStone I love that book. Never seen the movie, though

That and Without Remorse are my two favorite Clancy books

@TimStone there are binders full of scenarios for such things

It seems like it'd be easier to just not allow the nuke-in-vending machine to enter the country

@TimStone but if we open our borders to bales of weed, how can we stop the nukes contained therein?

oh shit the second issue of Build just got published

hell yeahhhhhhhh

Cincinnati is in it woo

@Unionhawk goddammit

Did the joke first then thought about it. Sorry.

@TimStone if you thought this wouldn't get weirder, you were wrong

@GodEmperorDune I don't even want to imagine what he means by testing her personally.

@GodEmperorDune ???

@Yuuki the way this timeline is going, he'll probably tell us what that means, and we'll regret it

the true answer is probably that Trump doesn't think, and that his words have no meaning

@TimStone in birth certificate lingo, now that the regular birth certificate has been produced, only the long form birth certificate will suffice

which is why it was extremely dumb for warren to even do the blood test in the first place

It's like he moved the goalposts onto the baseball diamond

I don't even know what game we're playing anymore

(eugenics and definitions of native membership aside, which make it even dumber)

@TimStone Neither do the Democrats but they're just so excited be here!

@TimStone the game of get the clusterfuck in the middle east out of the headlines

Democrats are like that one person on the debate team who spends all of their time crafting their perfect rebuttal to this one specific point.

And then the other team just goes "well that means you support eating children".

@Yuuki yep

Or something equally absurd.

in comic form

existentialcomics.com/comic/9

Basically, if you use a fallacy, then your argument does not hold together, logically. This doesn't automatically mean that your conclusion is wrong, or that anyone who points out the fallacy is right about their own claim.

@murgatroid99 yes, my point was that when confronted with the fallacy, they claim that the fallacy is wrong

I mean, the fallacy fallacy is also a real thing. Just because your opponent hasn't proven their point well, it doesn't make them wrong

ah, gotcha

Also, the "fallacy man" in that comic fails to recognize relevant subtleties in the fallacies he references, along with the obvious failure to recognize social context

I'm not sure that's actually an example of appeal to authority fallacy anyway

Yeah, I was going to say that. Peyton Manning is probably a valid authority for judging football skill, so he is a valid authority to reference like that.

@GodEmperorDune he does know that grabbing her by the ______ is not a test of any kind?

@Memor-X :/ sadly relevant to historically accurate pocahontas

@GodEmperorDune Nobody tell Trump about historically accurate Pocahontas.

The only one that the character uses completely correctly is the naturalistic fallacy. But he falls victim to the fallacy fallacy in doing so. It's true that carrots are better for you than candy, but it's not because they're natural.

@Ash the smart answer would be for him to say that he would need to become a phlebotomist to do it, and he doesn't have the time or energy for that, therefore he never will have to donate the money

@Ash yep that is too zany of a plan

bah that was a short article

was this the developers developers developers guy?

That's Steve Balmer

:/

Paul Allen actually did a lot of pretty cool things, I didn't know his cancer had come back

it seems to have taken the obit writers by surprise; they don't have anything prepped

all the stories are like the above

placeholders with what he died from and when and not much else

god

just

why would you think this was a good idea

the right does not operate in good faith

i dunno how she thought this would benefit her

@Unionhawk No, but the right shovels truckfuls of money their way to get them to shut up and stay out of the way.

just ignore it and do the good work you are already doing on financial regulations and such

i totally forgot this was a thing

@Memor-X wtf how did this get to a floor vote

do they just allow anyone to propose things and assume MPs will not be so racist?

so avenatti can go away now, right?

ugh he is appealing it, of course

@GodEmperorDune i honestly have no idea, might just be that the senate current is a breeding ground for this shit

> "I'm starting to think Senator Hanson and her former colleague Senator Anning are now locked in a race to see who can be the biggest, the loudest racist bigot," Senator Hinch said.

> Fraser Anning was roundly criticised in August for calling for a ban on Muslim migration and a 'final solution' to Australia's immigration.

context - final solution was a term used by the Nazi's for dealing with the jews

@Memor-X wow that is a mess

@GodEmperorDune no, not so long as there are women who have cases which would embarrass trump

remember that he also is representing one of Kavanaugh's accusers

speraking of which

@Memor-X lol nice

they are doing a fundraiser as part of this

good work all round

@GodEmperorDune especially where they're sending the money too

> Half of the proceeds raised from the $10 tickets will be donated, split between Planned Parenthood and the Ali Forney Center, an LGBT community center.

Ajit Pai: what opposing comments? everyone is happy for us cutting up the internet and selling it back in optional packages

@Memor-X sips from giant mug

@GodEmperorDune He has to, it's anti-SLAPP

But also he's obnoxious

lol, you will be shocked to learn the Fox-advertised "Make America Date Again" app is Quite Bad!

> Motherboard cannot rule out that this is a not-so-elaborate scheme to own Republicans.

@TimStone I mean is it even a SLAPP when the defendant is the actual president though

Apparently, the ruling permits attorney fees

@Unionhawk what did the five lawsuits say to the face? SLAPP