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8:08 AM
I'm about to buy a raw VPS, but I'm not sure what do I need to set it up. Is there any guide to this? Every search term I try ends up bringing up some godaddy page :D
 
 
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2:42 PM
@JackJohansson I would consider investigating cloud platforms. Google Cloud or Amazon Cloud ... Both are very comparable. I use AWS, but thinking about switching to Google.
 
3:38 PM
@MichaelEcklund Thanks, but I mean setting up a server from scratch. consider turning your own PC into a server and securing it.
 
So do you want to experiment with a VPS on your local machine?
 
No, but I wanted to learn how to set up a real server with nothing but an IP and a hardware
I did the securing and setup part, however don't know how to connect my domain to it
 
You're on Windows 10, right?
 
My own pc? yes windows 7. My server? CentOs7
Should have gone with the windows server. Unix doesn't provide a GUI, and I'm slow as a turtle.
 
I was going to recommend virtualization on your local machine. That way you can screw up as many times as you need in order to figure it out, without breaking the bank.
That's how I learned.
 
3:43 PM
I did that once, but didn't have an IP and a domain. Now I'm stuck at this stage
 
I personally use Hyper-V for local virtualization. However, there's other options like VMWare...
What do you mean?
When you virtualize... The machine get's it's own IP Address on your local network.
 
Right now I can connect to it by IP and browse my websites, but obviously i need to connect to it by domain name
 
So you need to modify your DNS records then.
Point the records to your IP Address
 
Yes that's it, gotta search how :P
 
So do you manage your DNS @ your domain registrar?
 
3:45 PM
No but I have access to everything including DNS
 
So did you purchase a VPS from somewhere then?
 
yes inmotionhosting
 
Okay, and you said it was Centos, is it a cPanel server?
 
I assume this has 2 part? Setting the domain NS as server NS, and then telling apache to redirect traffic to a folder?
Cpanel? It's an OS though... Linux
 
Did your VPS come equipped with a control panel of any kind, or was it a clean CentOS install?
 
3:47 PM
Cpanel is for newbies :P gotta hardcode it in notepad!
clean install
 
Okay, so yes, you need to make sure you have virtual hosts setup and configured.
Make sure you have bind installed and configured.
 
Any place to start learning?
 
Honestly man, I would recommend installing a control panel to start.
Then as time goes on you can dig into how those control panels do what they do.
 
If i had a control panel there was no need to learn then
I know how to configure using Cpanel
 
Search on Digital Ocean, they have some good articles.
I learned on there and Howtoforge
Obviously also these stack sites are great place too
 
3:50 PM
Trying on linode.com right now
 
but ya so ... in a nut shell. It's Virtual Hosts, BIND, then domain registrar (NS pointing) ... You can also spoof your DNS locally to test, in order to avoid WWW syncing
edit your hosts file, C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc
 
Gotta find the unix equivalent of that
 
nooo
You do it on your local machine
 
should be something like /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
why local?
 
so that your computer doesnt try to connect on the internet
it's called spoofing
you can use it for testing
 
3:54 PM
Oh for testing yes
 
yes
so ideally, if your spoof hosts file resolves correctly
then you should be fine to "flip the switch" on the DNS records.
 
Let's go for a test drive and then fire at will
 
obviously test it on one website
and like a website that you dont care about
 
should make a random website for testing :P
 
but ya, I used control panels to start.
Eventually phased them out
but now I use Cloud Services, so it saves me a ton of time on a lot of stuff
and it's wayyyyyyy better availability.
 
3:58 PM
I don't have popular websites yet. once i do, i'll switch to cloud too
not worth it yet.
 
4:36 PM
@JackJohansson I would assume linode have a prebuilt wordpress node you can duplicate which will set the basic requirements, so at least you will have less toturials to read. I know digital ocean and lightsail (amazon) have such a creation wizard
 
Gotta set it up still though. The VPS is raw as sushi.
 
let me check their site
o I see they are behind the rest in this regard
which OS did you chose?
 
CentOs7
 
did you follow any of the toturials on installing LAMP stack?
 
Yes
this one
and this one for securing it
 
4:43 PM
ok, so where are you stuck, the domain?
 
Yes
I have an IP, I know my DNS, I restored the back up of DB and public_html
Now all I need is to redirect the domain to IP
 
oh
this you should do from the DNS management in the linode admin
associate the domain with your server
 
I didn't buy from linode
So, I need to set the domain's DNS to my VPS's?
 
sure, they don't sell, still this is the way to go
from your registrar you need to set the name handler (forgot the proper name) to point to linode DNS servers
in linode you set the DNS to point to your actual node
you can point directly from the registrar to the node, but it is less flexible IMHO
 
The second one is what I'm trying to do :D always the hardest way.
 
4:49 PM
in that case it is all in the registrar and you need their support. In any case that is where most of the work probably needs to be done
if you point to linode you probably get better UI than in your registrar
 
Not a problem, if that's the case
UI is for newbies. Men should work on shell :P
 
Not sure what people have against UI's
 
lol, unless you set your own DNS server (which you can), you have to depend on UI somewhere
 
Just kidding. Trying to see how hard can a computer strike back
 
@MichaelEcklund totally nothing, but for complex settings UI just limits you
 
4:54 PM
Bought the VPS for less than a day, and there are already 43 failed login attempts. What the?!
 
that is the true internet
 
It's the proper time for this meme
 
when you set SSH access use a public/private key setup, don't use passwords
 
Should google that too
Btw is it safe to include a phpmyadmin on my host?
I don't have a control panel so I have to access the DB somehow.
 
so the question is why do you have to access it
 
5:04 PM
For back up and restore
 
I would say that less software === more secure, but if you need it, than you need it
why not to use a plugin for that?
 
WP plugin?
 
for DB backup? yes, several
 
Not all my projects are WP though
 
anyway you can easily configure backup with mysql tools.
oh. as I said, if you need, than you need ;)
 
5:06 PM
I renamed the folder to a hash and disabled folder indexing though
hopefully it helps a bit
 
you will still want some automated backup
also, use different DB per site
 
Yes sure
DO people actually use one DB for multiple sites?
 
it is so easy in case of wordpress I assume the answer is yes
saves you the effort of setting a new DB
 
Which in this case those efforts are 3 clicks :P
 
that depends on where you start to count. First you need to login to phpadmin or cpanel
 
 
3 hours later…
8:07 PM
@JackJohansson Funny how you don't want to use GUIs for anything, but then you ask about PhpMyAdmin, lol
 
8:52 PM
Why people ( especially in SE ) take everything so seriously =(
 

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